Speculation: Predict the cap move

[Sra1974]

I don't think it matters all that much. This team is not going to collapse without a Ceci. Rotate players like Kulak and Broberg into elevated roles depending on their play. Even out the the Ceci minutes between 3 other Dmen until whenever TDL is.

But you are still short a d man aren’t you?

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

But you are still short a d man aren’t you?

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Kulak
Broberg - Stetcher
Some other guy

 

[Jumptheshark]

I don't think it matters all that much. This team is not going to collapse without a Ceci. Rotate players like Kulak and Broberg into elevated roles depending on their play. Even out the the Ceci minutes between 3 other Dmen until whenever TDL is.

Ekholm-Bouchard
Broberg- Nurse
Kulak

We will be needing a 6th d man. Brown and Stretcher wont cut it full time

 

[Sra1974]

Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Kulak
Broberg - Stetcher
Some other guy

Geez Stetcher as a full time guy seems like a pretty big gamble to me and a step back from Ceci. I think the move has to be made uo front, already too thin on the back end.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

Ekholm-Bouchard
Broberg- Nurse
Kulak

We will be needing a 6th d man. Brown and Stretcher wont cut it full time

I dunno I think Stetcher is a fine #6, as long as he stays out of the Stretcher.

Geez Stetcher as a full time guy seems like a pretty big gamble to me and a step back from Ceci. I think the move has to be made uo front, already too thin on the back end.

I dunno, Stetcher looked pretty decent before he was injured. Not like he hasn't played full time before.

 

[Hollywood55]

McLeod & Ceci gone for picks would be a masterclass

Not gonna lie, I'm sick of watching McLeod

Mcleod is not the right fit for this team. It's just a style clash. He's too perimeter.

 

[McFlyingV]

Kane to LTIR, and if he comes back early, they trade Ceci. (I think that adds up.)

Yup this imo is the most likely scenario. Ceci is fine playing 3rd pairing with Broberg getting a chance in the top 4. Can trade Ceci later in the year for an upgrade if Kane stays on LTIR.

If Kane's not on LTIR then Ceci out for a late draft pick gets them compliant.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I think Kane is gone

 

[tiger_80]

Mcleod is not the right fit for this team. It's just a style clash. He's too perimeter.

He's not a good fit for any serious team. A 4th line winger is his ideal slot.

I think Kane is gone

He has a NMC. But I tend to agree, they would have to move a pricy forward rather than a D-man, and between Hyman, RNH, and Kane, it is an easy choice.

Geez Stetcher as a full time guy seems like a pretty big gamble to me and a step back from Ceci. I think the move has to be made uo front, already too thin on the back end.

Stetcher might play in the minors most of the year.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

They are 2.4M over with 13 forwards, 7 dmen, and two goalies signed.

If they dont carry 13 forwards that means it's only 1.5M if they send down/away Ryan (paper transaction/trade). Broberg would then replace one of Ceci or Kulak. They are then under.

Perry seems kind of a strange signing now unless they plan on burying Holloway again.

Those who wonder at the Joshua Brown signing only need to look at this lineup and realize there is not alot of muscle in these forwards. Lots of skill, lots of tenacity, but not much muscle except for Kane.

 

[Oilhawks]

They are 2.4M over with 13 forwards, 7 dmen, and two goalies signed.

If they dont carry 13 forwards that means it's only 1.5M if they send down/away Ryan (paper transaction/trade). Broberg would then replace one of Ceci or Kulak. They are then under.

Perry seems kind of a strange signing now unless they plan on burying Holloway again.

Those who wonder at the Joshua Brown signing only need to look at this lineup and realize there is not alot of muscle in these forwards. Lots of skill, lots of tenacity, but not much muscle except for Kane.

Yup, the bolded is about my only critique, but they do have muscle in the d corps which helps. That said, wouldn't mind seeing another 'muscle' forward added if possible. Maybe at the TDL if Kane isn't returning

 

[Oilers88]

I still think something is going to give with Kane. It seems obvious that Arvidsson and Hyman will be the top two RW and RNH and Skinner will be the top two LW. I assume they want to run the Janmark-Henrique-Brown line back given how much success they had in the playoffs, meaning the fourth line has Kane/Holloway/Perry/Ryan/McLeod fighting it out for minutes. That's a lot of cash for a fourth liner, and Kane probably won't be happy with his role. Running Holloway and McLeod together, with Perry and Ryan alternating in and out of the lineup all year makes more sense.

What's incredible is that we're actually in a pretty decent cap situation for this season in spite of all of the signings JJ made today. If they move out Kane and send down one of Brown or Stecher, they'll have $3.5-$4 million in space to sign Holloway and Broberg. We can probably afford to give Broberg some term to help keep him as a cost controlled asset, and still have a bit of space to add at the deadline. If we manage to move Ceci's final season as well (either now or at the deadline), then we've got a ton of room to add on the blueline at the deadline.

Today was a masterclass by Jackson.

 

[TheNumber4]

Jackson spoke of Kane needing to see a specialist and his health being the main priority right now with him. Sounds like an LTIR plan is in the works. So I'll go with that.

Also it makes sense, Kane's value to us comes primarily in the playoffs. Having him sit and heal multiple boo boos so he can be 100% for the playoffs wouldn't be bad. I just hope he has the discipline to stay in game shape while he sits.

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

My dream trades would be McLeod to Utah for Jack McBain (500K savings) and Ceci anywhere for a 3rd or 4th round pick (2.25M savings ir replaced by J Brown as no. 6 D). I could also see D. Ryan moved for very small savings. I think Kane will be on LTIR to start the year.

 

[5Hollywood5]

Hope we LTIR Kane for the whole year.

 

[5Hollywood5]

How much space, if any, would we have at the trade deadline if Kane wasn't LTIR'd and Ceci was moved for picks this summer?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Them LTIR'ing Kane feels a bit telegraphed. Otherwise, I doubt Skinner or Perry would be here.

If not, it'll be Ceci and possibly McLeod moved, with Holloway shifted to centre.
In theory if Broberg and Holloway take cheap deals (840k or less), then only Ceci would need to be moved.

I also have the feeling Josh Brown is AHL bound, with Kemp winning the #7 job, doing that would let you bump Broberg and Holloway up to about 950k each.

How much space, if any, would we have at the trade deadline if Kane wasn't LTIR'd and Ceci was moved for picks this summer?

Between zilch and nada

 

[Soundwave]

They're either LTIRing Kane or trading Ceci and signing Boqvist for like 1.2 million. They must know something because like they could have very obviously closed up shop after getting Skinner/Janmark done as that was plenty to begin with (on top of Arvidsson).

They knew full well and went in on Henrique anyway.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Meanwhile having Kane on LTIR has everyone slide in an appropriate role, and leaves them with about 1.5 for the TDL.

God, I will miss Capfriendly's Armchair GM.

 

[TheNumber4]

Meanwhile having Kane on LTIR has everyone slide in an appropriate role, and leaves them with about 1.5 for the TDL.

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God, I will miss Capfriendly's Armchair GM.

Damn. That’s some good work Dazed. Everything fits nicely. This could very well be it.

 

[guymez]

I think Kane is gone

Not easy to trade him but I am inclined to agree with you.
I mean if Kane wasnt injured (and they didnt have a cap issue) who do you play him ahead of in the top 6?

I thnk the top 2 lines are set...

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Drai-Arvidsson

The bottom 2 lines are likely to look something like this...

Kane/Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Kane/Holloway-McLeod-Perry

They are basically left with a forward with a $5.125M cap hit playing somewhere in the bottom 6...maybe even on the 4th line.
The only choce is to trade him or LTIR him. LTIR really only delays dealing with the problem though.
Ultimately they just have too many forwards. There is no place for Kane.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

While the rumors are unconfirmed I feel like I've heard a few too many murmurs about Kane being a locker room issue and he was a confirmed one in both WPG & SJ so I'm assuming it is probably the case again.

I don't think we can move Kane cleanly I think someone will dump something back on us, but IMO he's the most likely and given how deep we went on RHD signings I think Ceci is probably the other and they might posture to fix that hole at the deadline.

I also think McLeod will invariably have the doubters eating crow at some point in the not too distant future.

 

[Henkka]

Hi, Red Wings fan in here.

Was just looking that cap, and you are now over.

After first look, Ceci caphit seems to be the fix, to get Holloway & Broberg signed, and then waive some forwards like Ryan & C.Brown.

 

[ottawah]

They move McLeod for cap space (future considerations, 4th round pick), and place Kane on the LTIR.


It makes no sense to move Ceci. He's dirt cheap for his skillset and only has one year remaining. Good teams are deep at D, and it will cost a lot to upgrade on Ceci.

Exactly.

Ceci type players were going for 3.5-4.0M in FA. I'm not sure why people want to trade your #3 D man (by TOI) in the playoffs and a main contributor to that PK. Team was 9th in GA last year with him playing a shutdown role. Plus his GA/60 away from Nurse is exceptional. Even then, he earns below league average, there is just not any level of cap savings here. Yes I'd like improvement, but for RHD in this price range, thats about the best you can expect.

Regardless, if there was any thought to trading I'd sure they would have kept VD around. I'd far sooner have Ceci at +1.25M million though.

 

[harpoon]

Meanwhile having Kane on LTIR has everyone slide in an appropriate role, and leaves them with about 1.5 for the TDL.

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God, I will miss Capfriendly's Armchair GM.

But they still make mistakes.
For example McLeod on PP1 over McDavid.