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Viqsi

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Ditto. but ask Viqsi. There are some teams who are going to bury a lot of NHL contracts or are getting a lot of quantity. (looking at you Bruins).
I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of every AHL team, but yeah, there's a glut of surprisingly decent quality forwards out there and I'm pretty sure more than a few quality NHL 3rd and 4th liners are going to be playing top-6 in the AHL this year.

If anything is going to be a differentiator for AHL teams, I suspect it'll be the blueline. Not 100% sure where we are on that as I missed the prospect tournament, although I did catch a comment or two about Del Gaizo doing okay. (I was busy watching the Jackets games. Mateychuk is looking amazing.)
 

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I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of every AHL team, but yeah, there's a glut of surprisingly decent quality forwards out there and I'm pretty sure more than a few quality NHL 3rd and 4th liners are going to be playing top-6 in the AHL this year.

If anything is going to be a differentiator for AHL teams, I suspect it'll be the blueline. Not 100% sure where we are on that as I missed the prospect tournament, although I did catch a comment or two about Del Gaizo doing okay. (I was busy watching the Jackets games. Mateychuk is looking amazing.)
I think we'll see that Gravel, McKeown, Gross are the big differentiators on our D. De Gaizo and Stastney are older college grads who can look great in a prospect tourney, and Del Gaizo might have already been our best prospect D in Milwaukee last year. But now you take those two guys looking good against the youngsters, you include Wilsby who has played 3 years against men in Sweden, and then the 3 veteran AHLers... I like the odds of our D showing well.

But coaching and systems and execution are also really a big driver. The personnel may not be any significant degree better or worse from one good team to the next, but when things are clicking on all those fronts that's probably the real difference.
 
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AintLifeGrand

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Here is what Dobber is projecting for us

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BigFatCat999

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Here is what Dobber is projecting for us

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No. Top line wonderful. The "Grand Dutchy" of Grandlund and Duchene is a wonderful combo. You can put Forsberg on the Mighty Drunks and he would rule. The 2nd line should be Niederreiter (Let's just call him Nightrider) Johansen and let Tomassino/Tolvanen fight for wing. Nino can play both wings. I want a shooter at wing, Johansen to feed and Nino hogging up the middle. Beast Line: Don't f*** with happy. Seriously, they play defense line a 1st level line, offense line a 2nd line. Just don't f*** with it. 4th line, camp knife fight. I mean, replay the scene where Joker holds. "try outs' break a pool cue and let them go to town. Loser of the Tomassino/Tolvanen fight, Glass/Novak, (Novak showed as much promise as Glass but Novak is waiver exempt), then the 8 billion forwards fight for the last spot and the Press box spots. Defensively, to be honest, you could put the Barry Trotz roster blender 9000 in effect and it would work. Lauzon, McD, and Ekholm has experience and RHD Boro is very capable to eat minutes. At goal....it's Saros and....Who The f*** knows. The assumption is Saros for 40-50 games and the back up for the rest. But why not have multiple back ups eat into that 30? Why not let Askarov play a game or 5 in the NHL, Back-up plays 20 and Milwaukee trade bait play the rest before, traded? We have all seen the pattern before.

First cut is all the guys we assume are Milwaukee's best.

Last cut is the goalies who are sent down because the coaching staff has made their minds about the goalie tendems and won't trade for a goalie because they made their picks. IF, I repeat IF, Ingram goes to Milwaukee his stock will sky rocket. It becomes an AHL level trade vs NHL. Also, the rule is you only have to clear waivers once.

When a player clears waivers and is sent down and then is called up again, he does not have to clear waivers to be sent down again unless he has played ten games or has been "up" for 30 days Per wikipedia with source.

There are many 'what if's'

What if we have an injury in camp? A goalie injury would help some problems. Also, HOW LONG is the injury for and to whom?

What if some of Milwaukee's Best should be Nashville's best. (Or as the saying goes; Bourbon is what beer wants to be when it grows up.)

What if someone gets hurt that's not a goalie?

What if Tomassino or Tolvanen or (Dolly forbid!) they both don't step up?

Switzerland is the last pre-season game, I want to know what the rosters look like.

One other question: What are the COVID restrictions for Canada? I don't ASSUME there will be a taxi squad, BUT if needed; the depth in Milwaukee will be insane.
 

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So everyone practically regressing
Well forsberg, duchene, and josi had career years. Players their age typically dont do that in back to back years.

Johansen and granlund were closer to their career norms so no reason why they cant repeat.

The young players should continue to progress. Hopefully tolvanen rebounds away from kunin. Nino is a strong addition.

I can see the offense take a step back as duchene and forsberg might not repeat 40G seasons. I see that kindof counterbalanced by the addition of nino plus tomasino and tolvanen taking steps. Even if offense steps back defense should step forward and counterbalance things. I expect another great year from saros and hopefully lankinen is better than "big save" dave
 
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Well forsberg, duchene, and josi had career years. Players their age typically dont do that in back to back years.

Johansen and granlund were closer to their career norms so no reason why they cant repeat.

The young players should continue to progress. Hopefully tolvanen rebounds away from kunin. Nino is a strong addition.

I can see the offense take a step back as duchene and forsberg might not repeat 40G seasons. I see that kindof counterbalanced by the addition of nino plus tomasino and tolvanen taking steps. Even if offense steps back defense should step forward and counterbalance things. I expect another great year from saros and hopefully lankinen is better than "big save" dave
I'd say players Forsberg's age repeat those often but agreed on the other 2.

I just don't see every single player scoring less goals next season, which is what that shows.

I mean look at the drops in goals.
Forsberg -7 ( I can see that)
Duchene -10
Johansen -8
Jeannot -4
Trenin -3
Nino -2
Josi -4

Those are our top players and that shows a drop from every one of our top players.

Tomasino does increase slightly, Grandlund slightly and then Tolvanen shows a huge jump.
 

herzausstein

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I'd say players Forsberg's age repeat those often but agreed on the other 2.

I just don't see every single player scoring less goals next season, which is what that shows.

I mean look at the drops in goals.
Forsberg -7 ( I can see that)
Duchene -10
Johansen -8
Jeannot -4
Trenin -3
Nino -2
Josi -4

Those are our top players and that shows a drop from every one of our top players.

Tomasino does increase slightly, Grandlund slightly and then Tolvanen shows a huge jump.
Duchenes previous high G mark was around 31. He got 44 last season so a 34G season isnt outlandish for him.

Johansen actually shot the puck last season. He had 26 G last season and hasnt had more than 20G since 14-15. Not unreasonable to expect him to drop especially if he goes back to a pass fiest mentality.

Jeannot had like a 20% shooting%. I think his shooting% will dip but he will also increase volume so i think he will end close to where he was. Plus another year under his belt so he might not tail off as bad near end of season.

Trenin/Nino/Josi thats all just hitting an extra crossbar or two over the season. Cant put much stock in that one way or the other. Trenin like jeannot doesnt have a big track record. Nino was around his career norm and Josi had a career high.

Feel like the analysis was basically everyone reverts to career average goals per season.
 

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Johansen will have better offensive players on his wings this year. Nino and whoever plays the other wing should have a better season than last due to growth and progress. I see no reason his goals should go down.

Jeannot’s goals will probably stay the same or might improve if he’s not trying to fight everybody and there dad this year. He should also see some more PP time to help him keep his goal numbers up.

I’m calling it now so place your bets, Trenin scores more goals than last year and a handful of those are going to be shorthanded goals.
 

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Johansen will have better offensive players on his wings this year. Nino and whoever plays the other wing should have a better season than last due to growth and progress. I see no reason his goals should go down.

Jeannot’s goals will probably stay the same or might improve if he’s not trying to fight everybody and there dad this year. He should also see some more PP time to help him keep his goal numbers up.

I’m calling it now so place your bets, Trenin scores more goals than last year and a handful of those are going to be shorthanded goals.
Joey has a habit of not shooting. If he falls back on that habit, i can for sure see his goals drop. Dude has a good shot when he uses it though
 

Porter Stoutheart

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Apparently, they are not letting Russian players play in Prague.
Prague is several hundred miles from the Russian border. Like a whole Poland+ away. It's not like the Russian Preds and Sharks are going to be abducted.

Oh wait, the Praguians are banning them from playing? Well fair enough. Are Trenin and Barabanov basically the only Russian regulars anyhow?
 
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