Post-Game Talk: PP sucks Jets lose 2-1

[jefferoni]

 

[BoneDocUK]

As already mentioned, I'd move him into the Wheelers spot on the wall -
He will get a lot more respect (space) in that spot over Wheeler -
Or, as you noted, move him to #2 - he'd probably be more effective there and it might give Mo a reason to actually play the second option more often.

I’ve thought for a while that we should try a skilled leftie in that spot. Both KC and Ehlers are good passers and shooters, and KC adds an extra element of being lethal in tight and having a seriously good backhand.


I do not understand why we leave Wheeler there game after game with the same old movement, while Pionk fluffs gentle shots from the point. Niku also deserves a shot — throw him on with JMo if you want to cut down on shortie chances. It’s like Wheeler has to recuse himself from PP1 before they’ll change it up. Argh.

 

[bustamente]

Any coach that would say that he liked the Jets PP tonight is shoveling some heavy duty horse manure.

 

[jefferoni]

 

[Naturaledge]

Some of you poster's should consider hitting the reset button. Aside from the result, that was by far the most entertaining game I have watched this year. You're most welcome for this informative post.

 

[backwards motion]

Almost 7am without sleep. And I'm too... adrenaline pumped? But I know the darn result.

Not gonna nit-pick. Was weird with the calls and fighting. I'm not against it, but...ehm, I'm not going even anywhere. Marchands will rules our defence...

Laine scored. It was the only goal for us? Say what now (this season).

You keep your insanity away and try to continue, all I want before I'll fall to bed is... someone from coaching to think of something rather than nothing. And please, nothing stupid, pretty please.

You have a good one. If you can.

 

[ecolad]

The boys played their asses off tonight and deserved a better outcome. It was gut-wrenching to watch the Bruins turn up the physicality in an obvious planned fashion -targetting Scheifele in particular, without an equivalent response from our guys. Now, I`m not talking about standing up for teammates by taking instigator fighting penalties or the like. It is also counter-productive to try respond physically against Chara,MaCavoy and the like. What is needed is a planned physical response against their smaller,skilled players, making their lives miserable out there - letting their coach know in no uncertain terms that such response will continue as long as the aggression continues. We should be targetting players like Krug , Marchand, and especially Pasternak , as necessary to cool the Bruins enthusiasim for the rough stuff.

 

[tbcwpg]

Had a lot of fun watching that one in person, though.

 

[Atoyot]

I forget what winning feels like.

Me too, I remember liking it, but it's been so long, how can I be sure?

 

[blues10]

My kids asked when was the last time the Jets won and I said I don’t even know.

I thought we played very well but have dug such a big hole that points are all that matters.

Why did Sbisa get the 10?

 

[LowLefty]

The boys played their asses off tonight and deserved a better outcome. It was gut-wrenching to watch the Bruins turn up the physicality in an obvious planned fashion -targetting Scheifele in particular, without an equivalent response from our guys. Now, I`m not talking about standing up for teammates by taking instigator fighting penalties or the like. It is also counter-productive to try respond physically against Chara,MaCavoy and the like. What is needed is a planned physical response against their smaller,skilled players, making their lives miserable out there - letting their coach know in no uncertain terms that such response will continue as long as the aggression continues. We should be targetting players like Krug , Marchand, and especially Pasternak , as necessary to cool the Bruins enthusiasim for the rough stuff.

I agree -
I'd also like to see that physical response to come from a few of the guys that are more physical - not Ehlers and Pionk for example.
Copp, Potato, or even Wheels would be the guys i'd expect to step it up (and Lowry if he was playing).
I miss that part of our game - and it's not just because I like physical hockey. It's more because of teams like the Bruins who are really not that physical but look to be next to our Jets.

Buff, Chariot, Trouba (who just happen to be D men) would not have witnessed the same game tonight if they were still playing with us - because Boston wouldn't have tried that tactic if those guys were still in the line up.
No point in crying over what was and is no more but it does make you think about how much of that type of game still exits in today's NHL and how teams will use it against those that don't necessarily have it.

Regardless, we didn't lose this game because we were out muscled - but like you, I'd like to have a response to that type of game when needed.

 

[bustamente]

My kids asked when was the last time the Jets won and I said I don’t even know.

I thought we played very well but have dug such a big hole that points are all that matters.

Why did Sbisa get the 10?

Instigating.

 

[LowLefty]

Had a lot of fun watching that one in person, though.

I can see why -
Fans seemed to be really into it - more so than I can last remember.
Team was working hard and they got their chances - a few fights and lots of PP - other than winning, you can't ask for much more.

 

[JetsFan815]

The effort and intent was there... really enjoyed the game which was a first in a while, no complaints from me tonight.

 

[surixon]

The boys played their asses off tonight and deserved a better outcome. It was gut-wrenching to watch the Bruins turn up the physicality in an obvious planned fashion -targetting Scheifele in particular, without an equivalent response from our guys. Now, I`m not talking about standing up for teammates by taking instigator fighting penalties or the like. It is also counter-productive to try respond physically against Chara,MaCavoy and the like. What is needed is a planned physical response against their smaller,skilled players, making their lives miserable out there - letting their coach know in no uncertain terms that such response will continue as long as the aggression continues. We should be targetting players like Krug , Marchand, and especially Pasternak , as necessary to cool the Bruins enthusiasim for the rough stuff.

Well Ehlers did crush Marchand. But I agree we needed to run Pasta and some of their other guys more.

 

[Duke749]

The effort and intent was there... really enjoyed the game which was a first in a while, no complaints from me tonight.

If we got that the rest of the year I think most of us would be happy and content regardless where we end up.

 

[blues10]

If 85 is out and Harkins moves up the lineup would JC Lipon be at all serviceable on the 4th line?

Would Vesa get in the lineup on line #3?

 

[Saidin]

This game was the perfect game for me! I want to bottle this exact game and copy it 30 more times.
- entertaining as hell
- a loss (drive that tank)
- hopefully one game closer to Maurice being gone.

 

[surixon]

One thing that is an issue is that we don't make the goalie move enough. While we got a lot of shots tonight almost all of them came from head on with the goalie not needing to move much. Our goal came off of a seam pass tonight and their winner also came off of one. We need to incorporate much more of that. Our zone entries are uncoordinated, we need some set plays where we can open that cross ice pass up.

 

[PhilJets]

At the same time the rest of the PP also needs to be more proactive in taking advantage when players move to cover Laine before any pass is made to him. You could see the Bruins player at the top of the diamond drifting towards Laine every time Wheeler moved the puck back to the point.
Wheeler's passes back to the point may be just as much to blame as the passes that the man on the point is making to Laine, whether it's Morrissey or Pionk since they both seem to have the same issue.

This was the most effective for the Jets aginst the preds in that playoff series.

When preds were double teaming Laine and freeing up other slots.

All of them were moving....

Not happening so much now.

Wonder why player stop doing it?

Or the other team got a read on the Jets?

 

[Duke749]

One thing that is an issue is that we don't make the goalie move enough. While we got a lot of shots tonight almost all of them came from head on with the goalie not needing to move much. Our goal came off of a seam pass tonight and their winner also came off of one. We need to incorporate much more of that. Our zone entries are uncoordinated, we need some set plays where we can open that cross ice pass up.

Can we get a carbon copy of Holmstrom or someone similar. Man we could use a guy like that.

 

[surixon]

Can we get a carbon copy of Holmstrom or someone similar. Man we could use a guy like that.

The team had a good amount of tips today but that isn't the bread and butter of our skilled players.

 

[Duke749]

The team had a good amount of tips today but that isn't the bread and butter of our skilled players.

No but it would cause a bit of chaos IMO and perhaps open up some things. Our lack of forward depth doesn’t help either. Everything goes back to what a few guys on here were saying early in the year and even before the season. It’s a bit of a reload type season. Last year was our last big shot before some contract extensions kicked in. Now we have to reset a bit and then take another shot in the coming years.

 

[surixon]

No but it would cause a bit of chaos IMO and perhaps open up some things. Our lack of forward depth doesn’t help either. Everything goes back to what a few guys on here were saying early in the year and even before the season. It’s a bit of a reload type season. Last year was our last big shot before some contract extensions kicked in. Now we have to reset a bit and then take another shot in the coming years.

I agree that it would be nice. Get a more offensive minded system in and give guys like Harkins, Appelton and Roslovic a good run of games.

 

[Duke749]

I agree that it would be nice. Get a more offensive minded system in and give guys like Harkins, Appelton and Roslovic a good run of games.

Roslovic is still making a lot of bad plays defensively. It’s like a worse version of Connor and without the offense at times.