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WHich is funny because I believe Atlanta Olympic was the only profitable Olympic ever.
LA in 1984 made $223 million. Primarily because they made use of existing venues.
WHich is funny because I believe Atlanta Olympic was the only profitable Olympic ever.
Atlanta built stuff, but the stuff they built had a purpose beyond the Olympic games.
I.E. - The Olympic village turned Georgia State from a commuter school to having dorms for the first time. The Olympic Stadium was turned into MLB Turner Field for 20 years and now is the home football stadium of Georgia State.
I'd hope you of all people would understand how bad ownership and management can destroy a market.Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
I wish them luck in getting their team back from Winnipeg.I'd hope you of all people would understand how bad ownership and management can destroy a market.
Because the real American Dream is grifting people of millions of dollars on promises of the future based on irrelevant statistics that creates unrealistic utopian pictures.Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
That...honestly checks out.Because the real American Dream is grifting people of millions of dollars on promises of the future based on irrelevant statistics that creates unrealistic utopian pictures.
Because the real American Dream is grifting people of millions of dollars on promises of the future based on irrelevant statistics that creates unrealistic utopian pictures.
That...honestly checks out.
Spare me the smarminess; I neither buy tickets/merchandise nor do I pay a cent to watch NHL games legitimately (when i do watch in the first place, which is pretty much only the playoffs).Yet here you both are… fans of teams who willingly contribute to their grift by buying tickets…. paying for whatever plan there is to watch their games…. buying their merchandise….. etc. etc…..
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It’s like the self-promoted “economist” who wrote a study about how bad public funded arenas are yet openly and enthusiastically supports a pro sports team that plays its home games in two publicly funded facilities.
Because if 10K people in Atlanta become hockey fans as a result of a team going there that's 10K new hockey fans. That's much better than putting a team in a market where there are a million hockey fans because they are already fans.Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
Spare me the smarminess; I neither buy tickets/merchandise nor do I pay a cent to watch NHL games legitimately (when i do watch in the first place, which is pretty much only the playoffs).
Because since the team moved just over a decade ago, Atlanta MSA has added 1.5 million in population and has added a lot of corporate money (Mercedes, Google, Microsoft, Norfolk Southern, State Farm, etc...)Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
Because someone saw how badly the first two were run and wants to make a go of it???Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
The WHA's Denver Spurs failed at McNichols Sports Arena and relocated to Ottawa.Why in gods name would Atlanta get a 3rd shot at a team??
Atlanta built stuff, but the stuff they built had a purpose beyond the Olympic games.
I.E. - The Olympic village turned Georgia State from a commuter school to having dorms for the first time. The Olympic Stadium was turned into MLB Turner Field for 20 years and now is the home football stadium of Georgia State.
To clarify about the Olympic Village, GSU used it as dorms after the Olympics, but the buildings themselves were on Tech's campus in midtown (just across the street from Bobby Dodd Stadium on the site that Tech's old Techwood dorms were located).Georgia State recently spent several years in the top-10 US universities for enrollment, peaking at #6.
I’m guessing a lot of folks are reading this and thinking we’re talking about Georgia Tech. No, Georgia State, a commuter school that was barely on the radar prior to the 90s.
Relevant to the topic of public investment in sports facilities — Georgia State purchased the former Turner Field baseball stadium, home of the Atlanta Braves, which was originally the Centennial Olympic Stadium where Muhammad Ali lit the flame to open the 1996 games. That same building is now Georgia State’s football stadium, a great example of how to repurpose and renovate an arena across multiple life cycles.
That’s how a city can do the Olympics properly. Georgia State will continue to contribute to the city as a large public university long after these sporting events are forgotten.
As others have said, Atlanta did the Olympics correctly. The infrastructure built during that time period is still paying dividends, as the city/metro has absolutely exploded in the 20 years since.Thanks for the details, ATL folks! I knew Atlanta "did it right" but my examples were general instead of specific.
If the topic was about tax payers funding stadiums I am 100% with you.Because the real American Dream is grifting people of millions of dollars on promises of the future based on irrelevant statistics that creates unrealistic utopian pictures.
Both Atlanta (and LA) did it right by incorporating existing venues and building with solid plans for future usage in mind.Thanks for the details, ATL folks! I knew Atlanta "did it right" but my examples were general instead of specific.
You kind of have to look at the post I was quoting when I made that comment to see that I wasn't just talking about governments and tax payer spending. For sure it includes them but it's also the fans and the sponsors and in this case, the owners of the team who are being grifted here. It's a project that will eventually fail for a number of different reasons which I've written about before. I have little doubt that the project will move forward and get built, and I also have little doubt that they won't get an NHL team. But as I said above, the team will not be successful long term, and will be another stain on the NHL.If the topic was about tax payers funding stadiums I am 100% with you.
Considering how many cities got a team back and are thriving, I don't buy this on this topic.
What makes Atlanta so different from any other market? Previous outcomes do not determine future results.You kind of have to look at the post I was quoting when I made that comment to see that I wasn't just talking about governments and tax payer spending. For sure it includes them but it's also the fans and the sponsors and in this case, the owners of the team who are being grifted here. It's a project that will eventually fail for a number of different reasons which I've written about before. I have little doubt that the project will move forward and get built, and I also have little doubt that they won't get an NHL team. But as I said above, the team will not be successful long term, and will be another stain on the NHL.
Also, how many teams have gotten their team back after losing it twice?