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Blue Jays Discussion: Post Non-Waiver Trade Deadline Edition

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The Nemesis

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We should start a ridiculous rumor that like all those latin baseball players with forged documents (like Roberto "Fausto Carmona" Hernandez), Steve Pearce is a fraud too, and that instead of being 34 year-old Steve Pearce from Florida, he's actually 36-year-old Wayne Ocho from Juneau, Alaska.
 
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Steve Pearce no longer exists. Say hello to Miguel Sanchez!

(the real answer here i'm assuming is since his middle name is Wayne and twentyocho is self-explanatory)
 
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Montero's injury mayyyyyyy start up a list of promotions?

>Lopez/Ohlman added to 40 man and called up
>Jansen promoted to Buffalo
>Pentecost (and McGuire) promoted to NH
>Ridge Smith to Dunedin
>Riley Adams to Lansing
>Yorman Rodriguez to Vancouver
>Me just dreaming
 
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Eyedea said:
Montero's injury mayyyyyyy start up a list of promotions?

>Lopez/Ohlman added to 40 man and called up
>Jansen promoted to Buffalo
>Pentecost (and McGuire) promoted to NH
>Ridge Smith to Dunedin
>Riley Adams to Lansing
>Yorman Rodriguez to Vancouver
>Me just dreaming
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I hope not. I have C's tickets for next Wednesday and I want to see Adams play live at least once before he moves on.
 
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Eyedea said:
Montero's injury mayyyyyyy start up a list of promotions?

>Lopez/Ohlman added to 40 man and called up
>Jansen promoted to Buffalo
>Pentecost (and McGuire) promoted to NH
>Ridge Smith to Dunedin
>Riley Adams to Lansing
>Yorman Rodriguez to Vancouver
>Me just dreaming
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I'm pretty sure Gold would be going up to Vancouver. He's due for a promotion given his age and performance.
 

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Eyedea said:
Montero's injury mayyyyyyy start up a list of promotions?

>Lopez/Ohlman added to 40 man and called up
>Jansen promoted to Buffalo
>Pentecost (and McGuire) promoted to NH
>Ridge Smith to Dunedin
>Riley Adams to Lansing
>Yorman Rodriguez to Vancouver
>Me just dreaming
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I could see a few of these things happening.
 

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toronto blue jays prospect max pentecost is relishing his time back on the diamond.

The blue jays drafted the winder, ga., native in the first round of the 2014 mlb draft (11th overall) as a catcher, but injuries have seen pentecost shuffled to designated hitter duties and then first base as part of his buildup back to full health.

Catching is still his primary position, and the 24-year-old is getting more and more time behind the plate after missing the entire 2015 season due to shoulder surgeries.

“right now getting back into it, (i’m) getting more at-bats which is really nice, i’m able to get back into the game this year,†pentecost said during an appearance on the jeff blair show on sportsnet 590 the fan. “and i’m not fully dhing, i’m able to get out there on the field and kind of clear my mind away from the at-bats.

“it kind of makes the game get a little smoother.â€

pentecost prefers catching, though he doesn’t mind getting some reps at first base, something he thinks could help him reach the majors faster.

“it gives me a little more value possibly to a manager one day, where i have a secondary position and (am) not just a catcher,†he said. “so far it’s been really nie this year.â€
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Eyedea said:
Montero's injury mayyyyyyy start up a list of promotions?

>Lopez/Ohlman added to 40 man and called up
>Jansen promoted to Buffalo
>Pentecost (and McGuire) promoted to NH
>Ridge Smith to Dunedin
>Riley Adams to Lansing
>Yorman Rodriguez to Vancouver
>Me just dreaming
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I think it'll be a lot more simple. Lopez/Ohlman up, Monsalve to be the backup catcher in AAA like he has been before, then McGuire back up to AA to split with Jansen like he should be.
 

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Pearce is having a great week, but he's a 34 y/o replacement-level corner outfielder. He simply doesn't matter at all in the bigger picture.

Martinez is a completely different level of bat. The guy has a ~150 OPS+ over the past 4 years and had the 2nd-highest OPS+ in the AL next to Aaron Judge at the time of his trade to Arizona. He's one of the best hitters in the sport, and if you can get him you make that move. Especially since the value on him seems depreciated.
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Pearce has a 127 wRC+ the last four years. Sure, it's not JD Martinez calibre, but he's also under contract for $6.25 million next year, while Martinez is going to get a massive contract.

Also of note: Pearce was a complete disaster in April with a wRC+ of -3 and -0.7 fWAR. Since then, he has a wRC+ over 150 and has been worth 1.0 fWAR in 170 plate appearances. He's been injured, which is to be expected (and is also the only reason he's on such a cheap contract), but he's played at a ~3.5 fWAR pace for the last three months despite his awful defense.

He's having a great week, that's for sure. He's also awesome, and he's been dominating major league pitching for the last three months.
 
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So how much of the remaining $23 mil on Fat Mo's deal would we have to pick up to be able to unload him? Would a third do it, or are we looking at having to pick up at least half?
 

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Anybody watching the Astros game tonight? Would the Astros be willing to trade Julia Morales to us for Kendrys, and we would throw in Hazel. At least it would give us a reason to watch the rest of the season. Naturally, we would pick up the difference in the money involved.
 

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I agree that it would be a really good idea if Pentecost was convinced to pursue another position. He's way behind the development curve as a catcher and he has had injuries that impact playing that position. Plus catching isn't a position for athletes with injury histories. "Healthy" catchers are always banged up. I get the allure for the Jays: a catching prospect with a promising bat and some defensive skills.
 

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Could the outfield for the 2018 Blue Jays be 3 above average defenders with middling bats? That's what Shapiro seems to be stocking up with.
 
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JustAShadow said:
I agree that it would be a really good idea if Pentecost was convinced to pursue another position. He's way behind the development curve as a catcher and he has had injuries that impact playing that position. Plus catching isn't a position for athletes with injury histories. "Healthy" catchers are always banged up. I get the allure for the Jays: a catching prospect with a promising bat and some defensive skills.
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He's played a good amount at 1B this season. The reason people would like him to try second is because his current power projection doesn't play at 1B\DH.

JustAShadow said:
Could the outfield for the 2018 Blue Jays be 3 above average defenders with middling bats? That's what Shapiro seems to be stocking up with.
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Explain, por favor.
 
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