Blue Jays Discussion: Post Non-Waiver Trade Deadline Edition
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Canada4Gold
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I'm not trying to use WPA to determine who's better or who would be more likely to produce a result for us had we gotten 1 over the other. Just sheer what each player has done this year to help their team win games, Morales has netted 88% of a win, Edwin 98%. Like you said this can helped be explained by Morales getting higher leverage situations. But you can't really just plug Edwin into those situations and assume he would have gotten a much higher WPA. I like WPA/LI, but if I don't care about context I'll often just look at WAR(which isn't the same thing but as long as you know what you're measuring offense v. everything, and what it's compared to replacement v average you shpuld be fine) so I don't tend to use it very often. I like WPA when I want to know actual impacts on the field which like you said can be heavily influenced by situation, but I like the beauty of measuing exactly what happened and how it impacted the teams chances of winning even though it's not predictive at all, and Morales is really bad it actually hasn't cost us on the field yet which it likely will the rest of this year and in the next 2 years. He's just been clutch(1.02 v. -0.83 for Edwin) which you wouldn't expect to continue moving forward because clutch isn't a skill but beceuase he's been clutch in those lots of high leverage situations he's gotten for what we spent on him he just hasn't been a negative on us to this point which is the point I was trying to make.
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Why was a Friday game in the afternoon? What kinda crap is that? Instead of going home and cracking a cold one and watching a game I got to do what? Hang out with my wife?
Eyedea
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Cubs can't play night home games on Friday/Saturday because Wrigley Field is in a residential area.
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IIRC the Cubs are limited to a pretty small number of night games by city ordinance (something like 25).
Eyedea
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No, if I remember correctly they only have a certain amount of night games they are allowed to have during the entire season. It's just Friday and Saturday are absolutely no goes, and they only get Sunday night games when they are on ESPN. I know historically they were the last team to add lights to their stadium, so it was a longstanding tradition of playing day games. The idea surrounding the opposition of night games after that was because the surrounding neighbourhood had to deal with congestion/parked cars, the noise, and the lights.
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Jansen hit his first home run with Buffalo. He is 2 for 3. OPS 1.350. Showing a bit more power so far with Buffalo.
The Nemesis
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Nate Pearson pitching tonight for the C's. Makes me laugh because I missed his last start sandwiched between the two games I went to around the weekend, and then if he holds to schedule on a 5-day turnaround, I'm going miss his next 2 starts by a day (he'd pitch on Wednesday and the following Monday. I have tickets for Tuesday and Sunday)
Someone doesn't want me to see Pearson live
Someone doesn't want me to see Pearson live
Canada4Gold
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Can't believe they removed Pearson when he had a perfect game going 
He's been something else though man, this is now 5 games with Vancouver, 12 innings, 3 hits, 1 walk, 14 K's, 0 runs. Can't wait to see how he does in Lansing I assume next year. Maybe even Dunedin. He could rocket up prospect lists quickly if he keeps this up.
He's been something else though man, this is now 5 games with Vancouver, 12 innings, 3 hits, 1 walk, 14 K's, 0 runs. Can't wait to see how he does in Lansing I assume next year. Maybe even Dunedin. He could rocket up prospect lists quickly if he keeps this up.
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Pearson has one single NCAA season pitching 33 innings in 19 appearances. I now get why the Blue Jays are stretching him out slowly.
I don't think that's true, the Hamilton Tiger Cats play in a residential area and all of their games this year are night games. Traditionally the Cubs play day games, they were the last MLB team to get lights, I think it's tradition that keeps them playing day games, not being in a residential area.
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This isn't accurate. He pitched 81 innings for his JUCO team this season. The 33 IP in 19 appearances were from 2016 when he was a freshman at FIU. He transferred to Central Florida JC after that season and made 13 starts this year.
The 3-4 inning outings isn't anything out of the norm for newly drafted College pitchers.
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Pederson being optioned to AAA. Wonder if he could be had and if the price is right... could be a good buy low candidate in the offseason. They need a legit CF, 3 years of Pillar for 3 years of Pederson?
Hernandez/Alford/Pederson for 2018?
Aoki or Carrera for the 4th OF spot?
Patmac40
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Check again, his insta account has that avatar. I wouldn't read much into it other than the fact that I'd like it just because he's still salty.
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