Post Deadline Transactions and Signings

[leafsfan5]

Names I'm interested in this off-season from a trade route:

Oliver Kylington: He has the Treliving connection and just took the year off in Calgary so his value could be lower than we think. He looked like a top 4 LD with great mobility when he last played

Ross Colton: An RFA for the lightning and is asking for a raise TB might not be willing to give. He's a 20 goal scorer with a pest element to his game that would work well in the middle 6. The most enticing part for me is he doesn't have a lot of miles on him, whoever gets him next will likely get a good player for the next few years before he cashes out a la Coleman or Goodrow

Kevin Labanc: This one will require retention, but Labanc is a solid middle 6 player who has been on some trash SJ teams the past few years. Could provide the depth scoring we need

Hellebuyck: Seravalli linked us and a handful of other teams to Helly in his latest article. It's probably a longshot but if you're running it back this is the goalie you want in your net when the core 4 inevitably suck at scoring once again

Henrique: Anaheim might want to move on from him with a year left and if they retain he can work as a 3C for next year

 

[Leaffan1991]

Colton, Acciari, Bertuzzi would be great additions to the forward group.(Acciari already here just needs to be resigned)

Mayfield,Schenn, Soucy would be nice additions to backend

 

[mydnyte]

Colton, Acciari, Bertuzzi would be great additions to the forward group.(Acciari already here just needs to be resigned)

Mayfield,Schenn, Soucy would be nice additions to backend

I'd like Hathaway in our bottom 6, he's worse then and like Bunting (much less offense though), but, with size ...he could be our version of Perry the pest

 

[mydnyte]

Barbashev/Bertuzzi - 4.25M per for 4 years
Samsonov - 4.25M per for 4 years
Mayfield - 4M per for 3 years
Foligno/Wood - 3M per for 1 year
Hathaway - 2.15M per for 2 years
Acciari - 2.15M per for 2 years
Schenn/Gudas - 1.5M per for 2 years
Holmberg - 850K per for 2 years
Perry - 800K per for 1 year

Murray bought out. Brodie traded for a 2nd+. I guess I did make a trade. It fit with like 56K to spare. Could drop a Lafferty/McMann and gain space if need be to spread more money around to others.

you are overpaying almost everyone ...4th line guys coming off league min deal, dont double up their salary ...same for bottom pairing d-men
then Bertuzzi who may be this years top UFA takes a pay cut

 

[notdoneyet]

You can say the leafs are paying too much for what Matthews, Marner, Tavares bring in the playoffs because they usually don't show up, so if they were a combined 6m cheaper, you can say they could be better cause that 1 6m player could have a Nylander like impact in the playoffs.

But if you replace Tavares/Marner with Point/Kucherov at the same salaries they are at now. We probably make a cup appearance.

That's why, I personally have no interest in another year with the same core intact.


I don't think spending is the issue, because for the most part our goalies and dmen have been good in the playoffs. Last 2 years our goalie has been as good for the most part against the best goalie in the world.

It's who we are spending it on, all of our money is on four guys on offence and three of them don't score in the playoffs. So either we try pitching shutouts every playoff game or we rearrange the forwards we spend money on.

I can never understand why posters say have an impact like nylander in the playoffs

11games this year
4goals 6 assists 10 points
-4 with 3 hits

As opposed to marner having a terrible playoffs

11games
3 goals 11 assists. 14 points
+8. 18 hits

Four more points than that impact player nylander
Marner plus/minus blows nylander out of the water
Marner smaller by weight and size outhits the impactful nylander by 15 hits i repeat 15 hits

Impactful my ass

 

[tmlfan98]

Domi and Severson would be nice UFA targets considering their projected next contracts shouldn't be overpayments compared to a lot of the other UFAs in this class.

 

[Burnie97]

I can never understand why posters say have an impact like nylander in the playoffs

11games this year
4goals 6 assists 10 points
-4 with 3 hits

As opposed to marner having a terrible playoffs

11games
3 goals 11 assists. 14 points
+8. 18 hits

Four more points than that impact player nylander
Marner plus/minus blows nylander out of the water
Marner smaller by weight and size outhits the impactful nylander by 15 hits i repeat 15 hits

Impactful my ass

I'm not arguing for one or the other but for some people I think it's just how much each of them costs and what they provide for that money.

Also their contracts in the future will tell a lot too.

 

[LaPlante94]

I can never understand why posters say have an impact like nylander in the playoffs

11games this year
4goals 6 assists 10 points
-4 with 3 hits

As opposed to marner having a terrible playoffs

11games
3 goals 11 assists. 14 points
+8. 18 hits

Four more points than that impact player nylander
Marner plus/minus blows nylander out of the water
Marner smaller by weight and size outhits the impactful nylander by 15 hits i repeat 15 hits

Impactful my ass

Didn't Marner get like 10 of those 14 points i the 1st 3 or 4 games against TB and 2 of those games were blowouts.

 

[Burnie97]

Didn't Marner get like 10 of those 14 points i the 1st 3 or 4 games against TB and 2 of those games were blowouts.

Well that's the whole thing. Context.

Just speaking of the core 4:

Look I like Marner and Nylander but personally I think one of them should be going.

Will they... maybe not.

Matthews won't... he's a franchise C despite what has happened so far in his career. He pisses me off sometimes too but a guy who can score 60 doesn't come along often. There's clearly a few in the league who can do it but they're special players.

As for JT he's going no where with that contract.

Like Treliving said don't make a trade to just make one but there has to be one out there for 1 of those 2 guys where they may not get the best player back but you'll switch up the chemistry and also have more funds to allocate to other areas of need like another top 4 D... hopefully a top 2.

Anyway I'll end my rant now just my 2 cents.

 

[weems]

What is Dumba going to ask for contract wise?

Someone in the trade section said Treliving had interest in aquiring him in the past.

I know he can skate and he would definitely add some toughness but how is his defensive game?

 

[the real Fox mulder]

If Matthew won't resign and we won't be able to maximize his trade value. Would a deal of Auston Matthew for Sebastian Aho work. Both are UFA next year. I don't know if Carolina needs to add a bit more because of Matthew the better player. This deal only works if both player agree to sign a contract extension.

 

[OVO16]

What is Dumba going to ask for contract wise?

Someone in the trade section said Treliving had interest in aquiring him in the past.

I know he can skate and he would definitely add some toughness but how is his defensive game?

Its actually crazy what a GM change can do.

Players I would've never mentioned as a possibility under Dubas is now being mentioned because of Treliving because of their contrasting styles.

I do think Dumba might be of interest to Treliving

 

[ULF_55]

I can never understand why posters say have an impact like nylander in the playoffs

11games this year
4goals 6 assists 10 points
-4 with 3 hits

As opposed to marner having a terrible playoffs

11games
3 goals 11 assists. 14 points
+8. 18 hits

Four more points than that impact player nylander
Marner plus/minus blows nylander out of the water
Marner smaller by weight and size outhits the impactful nylander by 15 hits i repeat 15 hits

Impactful my ass

Maybe they're just referring to the Panthers series when they faced a good goalie, and taking into consideration the the others make 50% more money than he does. Cap space impacts who you can add to your team, so while not paid in the post-season, players for the playoffs are determined by Cap space in the regular season. Of course you can circumvent(cheat) with LTIR see the VGK.

marner 3 points 1 goal
Matthews 2 points 0 goals
Nylander 3 points 2 goals
Tavares 1 point 0 goals

 

[ULF_55]

Its actually crazy what a GM change can do.

Players I would've never mentioned as a possibility under Dubas is now being mentioned because of Treliving because of their contrasting styles.

I do think Dumba might be of interest to Treliving

I thought that myself, I was surprised, based on reputation, he's so small.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Borgen would probably be the best guy for our RD vacancy. Not too old, won't be super expensive (to acquire through trade nor on the cap), and plays a more physical style while still being skilled.

Otherwise, it is larger contracts and some of them are not much different/better than just bringing back Holl.

 

[Menzinger]

Leafs will need a 3C. Maybe Holmberg solves it. But might need to aim higher.

If Treliving opts to remake the D corps, maybe they move Lily or Brodie to help fill that hole. Not sure whose available though

 

[andora]

Borgen would probably be the best guy for our RD vacancy. Not too old, won't be super expensive (to acquire through trade nor on the cap), and plays a more physical style while still being skilled.

Otherwise, it is larger contracts and some of them are not much different/better than just bringing back Holl.

Borgen may have been cheap last year but not so sure this year

He has already made schultz expendable and showed an awesome level of compete

Leafs will need a 3C. Maybe Holmberg solves it. But might need to aim higher.

If Treliving opts to remake the D corps, maybe they move Lily or Brodie to help fill that hole. Not sure whose available though

Holmberg as 4c with acciari rw as support is perfect to grow him

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Its actually crazy what a GM change can do.

Players I would've never mentioned as a possibility under Dubas is now being mentioned because of Treliving because of their contrasting styles.

I do think Dumba might be of interest to Treliving

What I’m terrified of is Tre’s propensity to light money on fire for 5 years by giving 4.5m or more to 3/4 liners. He’s done it far too many times to chalk it up to an easy mistake or miscalculation:
Frolik, Coleman, Neal, Brouwer….

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Giordano retiring might do us some good. He's officially washed. Would make decisions a lot easier

Also think Connor Clifton might be a target

Absolutely love Clifton, can skate, move the puck, and he throws legit hits for an undersized D. With him being a RH, I’d give a hard run at him.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Leafs will need a 3C. Maybe Holmberg solves it. But might need to aim higher.

If Treliving opts to remake the D corps, maybe they move Lily or Brodie to help fill that hole. Not sure whose available though

If Tavares is still seen as a winger, you'll need to find a 2c as well.

Nylander, provided he stays, may be the only internal solution.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Leafs will need a 3C. Maybe Holmberg solves it. But might need to aim higher.

If Treliving opts to remake the D corps, maybe they move Lily or Brodie to help fill that hole. Not sure whose available though

Monahan still seems like the obvious choice given the weak market, his history with Treliving, and since he has had injury issues, his contract should reflect that.

Matthews - Tavares - Monahan would be a pretty devastating 1-2-3 punch down the middle if everyone is healthy though.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Absolutely love Clifton, can skate, move the puck, and he throws legit hits for an undersized D. With him being a RH, I’d give a hard run at him.

For what though? He has been a 6/7 his entire career and not even a great one at that. He was helped out a lot by playing in Boston but even then he ended up playing terribly in the playoffs.

At that point, just bring back Schenn. At least he has familiarity with the team already.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

For what though? He has been a 6/7 his entire career and not even a great one at that. He was helped out a lot by playing in Boston but even then he ended up playing terribly in the playoffs.

At that point, just bring back Schenn. At least he has familiarity with the team already.

I’m all for Schenn on cheap; if not Clifton for cheap option on 3rd pair would be solid. I’m not suggesting top 4. You’ll disagree because of Holl’s analytics, but I’d much prefer Clifton than Holl if there aren’t other options for 2RD.

 

[Menzinger]

If Tavares is still seen as a winger, you'll need to find a 2c as well.

Nylander, provided he stays, may be the only internal solution.

I think Tavares is staying at 2C for that very reason for at least 1 more season unless they do end up making a bigger trade

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I’m all for Schenn on cheap; if not Clifton for cheap option on 3rd pair would be solid. I’m not suggesting top 4. You’ll disagree because of Holl’s analytics, but I’d much prefer Clifton than Holl if there aren’t other options for 2RD.

Interesting choice, unless you are accounting for the fact that Holl should be making a lot more money on the open market than Clifton, given Holl has outplayed Clifton while also playing in a tougher role.