I wonder if Brodie will be here because we know that Treliving tried to trade him once, and had Kadri not blocked it he would have and Brodie knows that too.
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I wonder if Brodie will be here because we know that Treliving tried to trade him once, and had Kadri not blocked it he would have and Brodie knows that too.
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He also tried to re-sign Brodie before he signed with the Leafs, but Brodie wanted to be closer to home. Calgary then signed Tanev.
Maybe he does trade Brodie though. Brodie has 1 year left on his contract and he could be the easiest to shed if Treliving would prefer to bring in different defenders.
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I like Woll and Sammy a lot and Helly was great last season but not the previous season (goalies hard to predict). If we're moving Marner, I'd much rather upgrade our D.
Tanev is actually one of the guys I wonder about him bringing over because I fully except a Toronto/Calgary deal and not necessarily a small one.
You don't need to need Marner to do that, upgrading while creating a giant gaping hole is not upgrading
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Tanev has 1 year left and he's 34 years old this upcoming season. Not sure I see the fit. I think getting a little younger and faster would be the goal, not getting older and slower. Tanev is alright though.
If anyone it would be the new players that we brought in
OReilly iam thinking would not hold back
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For starters, all I said was that "if" we're trading Marner, I'd prefer to get a Dman back instead of goaltending. Note the word "if".
That said, we have some pretty good forwards so trading Marner hardly creates a gaping hole. I'm also tired of Marner underperforming in the biggest games of the year, game 3 against Florida was probably his worst game as a Leaf and if anyone was a gaping hole that night, it was Marner himself.
We spend too much cap on forwards and shifting some cap from forward to D seems like a reasonable idea to me. JMHO.
The idea that we spend to much on 4 players needs to die.
Look at Florida 4 players 44% of their cap, not quite the same but similar
Gary Nylund
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One thing you notice in the conference final games everything is north south .
There is very few fancy plays, retrieve the puck and go to the net nothing fancy .
Most goals scored in tight. We as a team don't do enough of this.
We did in the Tampa series in the 3rd periods but m and we scored. We just weren't consistent enough.
To many fancy plays.
There is very few fancy plays, retrieve the puck and go to the net nothing fancy .
Most goals scored in tight. We as a team don't do enough of this.
We did in the Tampa series in the 3rd periods but m and we scored. We just weren't consistent enough.
To many fancy plays.
Even still not true most teams if not all of them spend the majority of their cap on forwards.
Florida
A tough skilled winger 9.5 mil
A selky top center man with size 10 mil
A vezna goaltender 10 mil
A #1 dman 7.5 mil
37 mil cap hit
A totally different mix
Skills and soft all forwards
Big difference
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WTFMAN99
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Then you have a guy like Bennett at 2C that will kill you lol.
Ekblad has the 3rd highest TOI for Florida.. So they're technically paying 7.5M for a 3D.
Bob's contract up until a month ago was one of the worst contracts in hockey...
Sure it's a different mix but it isn't like they're spending it better. Considering they maybe still looking to trade Ekblad/Bob this summer.
You can say Toronto needs to spend their money better, sure but it being a totally different mix isn't always better.
Big difference Bob has the capacity of doing what he is doing
2 vezina trophy's
So the leafs should trade for Carey Price, because he has the capacity of winning an MVP and the contract is fine?
You can say the leafs are paying too much for what Matthews, Marner, Tavares bring in the playoffs because they usually don't show up, so if they were a combined 6m cheaper, you can say they could be better cause that 1 6m player could have a Nylander like impact in the playoffs.
But if you replace Tavares/Marner with Point/Kucherov at the same salaries they are at now. We probably make a cup appearance.
That's why, I personally have no interest in another year with the same core intact.
I don't think spending is the issue, because for the most part our goalies and dmen have been good in the playoffs. Last 2 years our goalie has been as good for the most part against the best goalie in the world.
It's who we are spending it on, all of our money is on four guys on offence and three of them don't score in the playoffs. So either we try pitching shutouts every playoff game or we rearrange the forwards we spend money on.
But if you replace Tavares/Marner with Point/Kucherov at the same salaries they are at now. We probably make a cup appearance.
That's why, I personally have no interest in another year with the same core intact.
I don't think spending is the issue, because for the most part our goalies and dmen have been good in the playoffs. Last 2 years our goalie has been as good for the most part against the best goalie in the world.
It's who we are spending it on, all of our money is on four guys on offence and three of them don't score in the playoffs. So either we try pitching shutouts every playoff game or we rearrange the forwards we spend money on.
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I dont think it's going to cost a as much to move Murray as a lot of doomers on here realize. I called it last year when people said no one would take an injured Mrazek for 2 yrs at just under 4M. I said he would go to Chicago because they were going into the season with no goalies under contract and they would need an NHL capable goalie to play the games while tanking for Bedard as well as reach the cap floor. That's exactly what happened and all it cost to move him was dropping down a few spots in the draft.
I'm going to call it now and say if Murray gets dealt, it'll be to a team like San Jose. The only goalie they have under contract for next season is Kahkonen and they have 14M in cap space while still in the middle of a rebuild. Do people think a team like that won't take Murray for 1 year? They are in the same situation as Chicago was. If Murray plays well, they could flip him for a pick to team that might be desperate for a goalie at the deadline.
He could also go to a team like Buffalo who might be looking for a veteran goalie to be a tandem with their young up and comer Levi. Like Anderson.
It didn't cost much to move Mrazek and Murray is a better goalie with 1 yr left instead of 2.
I'm going to call it now and say if Murray gets dealt, it'll be to a team like San Jose. The only goalie they have under contract for next season is Kahkonen and they have 14M in cap space while still in the middle of a rebuild. Do people think a team like that won't take Murray for 1 year? They are in the same situation as Chicago was. If Murray plays well, they could flip him for a pick to team that might be desperate for a goalie at the deadline.
He could also go to a team like Buffalo who might be looking for a veteran goalie to be a tandem with their young up and comer Levi. Like Anderson.
It didn't cost much to move Mrazek and Murray is a better goalie with 1 yr left instead of 2.
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Come on now, think before posting nonsense. Roughly 2 3rds of the team are forwards so of course teams spend the "majority of their cap" on forwards. The point is that most teams don't spend half the cap on 4 forwards.
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Exactly. And now he's leading them to the finals, go figure. To anyone trying to predict goalie performance, good luck!
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I've really wondered about this ever since I heard it.
I wonder what Marner, Nylander et. al. had to say, particularly now that we've heard the new GM may keep the core and build around those guys rather than move them out.
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