Post Deadline Transactions and Signings

[Fogelhund]

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There are a higher percentage of $10 mil + contracts left in the playoffs, than those below $10mil....

 

[horner]

I think going from Bunting to Garland could be alright. The Garland cap hit would be around what I'd hope Bunting would take. Garland is a smaller player but he would give back speed and work ethic on the forecheck that we need more.

Not sure about the rest and making it a big blockbuster but Garland is definitely on the market and I think the Leafs could and should have interest.

For a million more sign
Bertuzzi
10 pts on the playoffs for Boston

 

[Americanadian]

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There are a higher percentage of $10 mil + contracts left in the playoffs, than those below $10mil....

What does this mean? I have read this 5 times and I am not sure what the takeaway is.

 

[Apotheosis]

One guy I wish the Leafs target/targeted in the past is JT Miller. Love his game, think he would thrive here in Toronto at least for the fact that he works like crazy and is talented.

 

[showtime8]

One guy I wish the Leafs target/targeted in the past is JT Miller. Love his game, think he would thrive here in Toronto at least for the fact that he works like crazy and is talented.

They'll need a hard nosed coach to keep in check though. He was a bit of a loose cannon in Vancouver. Tocchet was able to dial it back for him.

I like the combination of talent & physicality and would definitely be a good fit in the playoffs.

 

[LaPlante94]

What does this mean? I have read this 5 times and I am not sure what the takeaway is.

Basically that if you pay multiple people 10+ mil you probably won't win shit. If you do, only pay centers and goalies that much because the 3 remaining are 2 centers and 1 goalie and you can say that goalie is the worst contract of them all even though he is the reason why Florida is in the 3rd round. 2 of the 3 remaining are on Florida who is probably the worse of the 4 teams remaining so you can take that however you want to.

 

[Americanadian]

Basically that if you pay multiple people 10+ mil you probably won't win shit. If you do, only pay centers and goalies that much because the 3 remaining are 2 centers and 1 goalie and you can say that goalie is the worst contract of them all even though he is the reason why Florida is in the 3rd round. 2 of the 3 remaining are on Florida who is probably the worse of the 4 teams remaining so you can take that however you want to.

You got a lot more out of that stat than I did.

 

[Dreakmur]

What does this mean? I have read this 5 times and I am not sure what the takeaway is.

It’s supposed to show that Toronto’s model of paying a bunch of players 10+ is a viable strategy.

 

[LaPlante94]

You got a lot more out of that stat than I did.

I'm just making shit up tbh lol. I had no idea what that tweet was trying to prove but I think I was on to something.

 

[Leafed]

UFA

 

[Americanadian]

I'm just making shit up tbh lol. I had no idea what that tweet was trying to prove but I think I was on to something.

It's almost as if the implication is you will go farther in the playoffs if you have more 10M players than players making 1-9.9M which is quite literally not possible.

 

[LaPlante94]

It's almost as if the implication is you will go farther in the playoffs if you have more 10M players than players making 1-9.9M which is quite literally not possible.

Yeah if that's what he's saying that is the probably the worst take I've seen. Has to mean something else lol.

It’s supposed to show that Toronto’s model of paying a bunch of players 10+ is a viable strategy.

How so though when only 3 players make 10m exactly in this final 4 and 2 of them are on the team that barely made it in. Maybe when the cap raises to 90 mil + then I'm sure that could be the case but atm I just don't see it unless you absolutely kill it at the draft and ELC contracts give you huge value.

 

[Americanadian]

My latest take on the Leafs (always changing):

Trade 1: Marner for Farabee, Laughton, 7OA (draft Reinbacher)
Trade 2: Nylander for Garland, Myers, 11OA (draft Danielson)
Trade 3: Brodie for Perron
Trade 4: Timmins for Kastelic
Trade 5: TOR 24 4th or NYI 24 3rd for Demelo

UFA:
Clifton 2Mx2
Rodrigues 3Mx3

I would explain why all the acquisitions make sense to me but I know no one will read it. The core philosophy of these moves is to take a step back for 2024 when the Leafs own their 1st round pick while setting the team up to compete for the next 5 years by getting younger (Farabee, 7OA, 11OA). The assumption is Matthews signs and agrees to this plan. The other assumption is you can't build a cup contender with Matthews/Nylander/Marner which has been proven true countless times.

Myers is either 7D or AHL. Murray is also assigned to the AHL or LTIR'd. Murray, Myers, Perron expire next season and open up ~15.5M to spend in UFA on Pesce/Guentzel/Lindholm/Reinhart/Debrusk/Toews while potentially graduating Danielson and/or Reinbacher.

Edit: my plan has already shifted away from Clifton. Just trade for Demelo, ideally a 4th.

 

[SprDaVE]

My latest take on the Leafs (always changing):

Trade 1: Marner for Farabee, Laughton, 7OA (draft Reinbacher)
Trade 2: Nylander for Garland, Myers, 11OA (draft Danielson)
Trade 3: Brodie for Perron
Trade 4: Timmins for Kastelic
Trade 5: TOR 24 4th or NYI 24 3rd for Demelo

UFA:
Clifton 2Mx2
Rodrigues 3Mx3

I would explain why all the acquisitions make sense to me but I know no one will read it. The core philosophy of these moves is to take a step back for 2024 when the Leafs own their 1st round pick while setting the team up to compete for the next 5 years by getting younger (Farabee, 7OA, 11OA). The assumption is Matthews signs and agrees to this plan. The other assumption is you can't build a cup contender with Matthews/Nylander/Marner which has been proven true countless times.

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Myers is either 7D or AHL. Murray is also assigned to the AHL or LTIR'd. Murray, Myers, Perron expire next season and open up ~15.5M to spend in UFA on Pesce/Guentzel/Lindholm/Reinhart/Debrusk/Toews while potentially graduating Danielson and/or Reinbacher.

Edit: my plan has already shifted away from Clifton. Just trade for Demelo, ideally a 4th.

Sounds to me like the Flyers are going full long rebuild. They sent out a letter and explained it would be a long process. I would seriously doubt they make that kind of trade. If Fletcher was still there I would 100% see them doing it though.

Laughton for the 28th pick might be something that interests them and I think the Leafs would be interested as well.

 

[SprDaVE]

UFA

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A good target. It's crazy that he's 27 years old... I thought he was like 23-24 years old and a RFA.

 

[Americanadian]

Sounds to me like the Flyers are going full long rebuild. They sent out a letter and explained it would be a long process. I would seriously doubt they make that kind of trade. If Fletcher was still there I would 100% see them doing it though.

Laughton for the 28th pick might be something that interests them and I think the Leafs would be interested as well.

That’s the correct direction for them to go. I hate when other teams have competent management.

I personally wouldn’t do Laughton for 28OA because I don’t value the player highly but I can see it. I’d prefer the Leafs add another prospect because Knies is graduated and I want to re-live the excitement of watching his stock grow.

 

[Menzinger]

I am once again proposing Kastelic for Timmins.

I am high on Timmins but at the end of the day he will be 25 to start next season and he’s played 130 hockey games since he turned 20. I don’t see a future with him on this team, especially if Schenn returns.

Ottawa needs RHD, Toronto needs a new 4C. Kastelic has been an analytics darling this year in Ottawa on the defensive and offensive side of the puck. He is a big RS C. He’s signed for 2 years beyond this season at 835k. He also fights and hits which as of right now the Leafs don’t have someone under contract that will do that. The Leafs get slightly younger while saving a small amount on the cap.

I think the teams potential for Timmins to outperform his contract is higher than the value of a 4C. Personally I'd extend Kampf who seems to elevate his game in the post season

 

[leafsfan5]

Lindholm + Andersson is a very interesting deal

Andersson has that asshole element of his game as well, very unlikable player. Only thing is Lindholm will need a new deal soon

 

[Menzinger]

Do you guys think that Dubas/Davidson hook up to pull a Mrazek like trade involving Murray?

#28 + Murray for either #51 (TB pick) or #57 (Rangers pick)

Bigger drop for Leafs compared to last season since Murray has bigger cap hit and sizeable salary/buyout cost this offseason.

Saves the Leafs on having to carry $2M in dead cap next offseason from buyout

Hawks can either keep Murray on NHL roster behind Mrazek heading into next year or buy him out

I think there's room for a deal. Though point of clarification Murray is actually owed less real dollars than Mzarek was due to Ottawa retaining 25% of his salary as well as his caphit so terms would probably need to reflect that

 

[Americanadian]

I think the teams potential for Timmins to outperform his contract is higher than the value of a 4C. Personally I'd extend Kampf who seems to elevate his game in the post season

I believe you’re underrating Kastelic or overrating Timmins. Timmins will be 25 to start next season and has played 130 games since he turned 20. He’s played over 20 minutes in an NHL game 5 times. I am high on his ability but I don’t think he’ll bring enough on ice value to outperform Kastelic’s on-ice value and Kastelic’s “intangible” value which is the fact that he actually fights and hits.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

UFA

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How can you see these cards, or where can I find them ?

 

[SprDaVE]

That’s the correct direction for them to go. I hate when other teams have competent management.

I personally wouldn’t do Laughton for 28OA because I don’t value the player highly but I can see it. I’d prefer the Leafs add another prospect because Knies is graduated and I want to re-live the excitement of watching his stock grow.

That's fair but I think Laughton would give the Leafs that element in the mid-lines that they need more. His contract is manageable. He's a bit overrated for the most part but I wonder if a change of scenery would do him good. He's pretty much a bigger and more physical version of Kerfoot.

I think the Leafs and Flyers could be good trading partners either way.

 

[Kiwi]

We didn't win, because we didn't score enough goals, so let's trade away one of our better scorers, for more D???? When D wasn't really a problem? I'd rather just extend Schenn.

One of our offensive problems is a lack of offense on the backend

Our guys are sound defensively but only Rielly and to a lesser extent Liljegren are going to do anything creative with the puck

 

[Apotheosis]

Not that it would ever happen but trading Marner for Hughes, Knies replacing him on the top line and signing another decent D probably helps the team immensely provided RoR is healthy as well. Think Orlov if we have the cap space. Or, someone cheaper on the bottom pairing and sign a guy like Bertuzzi.

Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Tavares - RoR - Bertuzzi

Rielly, Schenn, McCabe, Liljegren, Hughes and insert depth D (Orlov?) with Holl being the starter,

 

[Legion34]

I wonder what a NJ trade for marner would be?

Marner for meier plus?