Blue Jays Discussion: post-deadline, back-at-home edition

[Haringoth]

Sometimes players just click with a different team. It's often no fault of their old group, maybe just the right advice at the right time by someone with a different perspective. As good as Pete Walker is, and I firmly think he is the best, I imagine his style doesn't speak to everyone. No one can perfectly communicate with everyone. It's why we've still had shit pitchers along the way, this isn't miracle max.

Gio Urshela was not a good Blue Jay. Pretty sure everyone here was asking to get rid of him ala Panik and Valera, and they did. And he goes to NYY, unlocks something in his swing and ups his OPS 250 points overnight.

We've had it in reverse with Bautista, Encarnacion, Teo, even Smoaky. It's not always an indictment on the old club when a player improves for a variety of factors.

Unless you are Baltimore and actively demanding your pitchers not throw their best pitch as with Arrieta.

 

[Discoverer]

I literally see no one "losing their minds" for letting Rowdy go in the thread, but if you want to play Sancho Panza for metafour that's cool too.

I didn't say anything about Rowdy. Most of those responses have been pretty even-keel as far as I'm concerned. I wasn't responding to that part, which is why I didn't reference it.

But fair enough either way - "overreacting" probably would have been more appropriate than "losing their minds".

 

[Maestro84]

Dolis has quietly comeback to life;

9 appearances
9.2 innings
0 ER or Runs
0 HRs
4 hits
5 BBs
13 Ks

Those appearances were against Boston 3 times, the Mets twice, and the Rays, O’s, Rangers and Indians one each.

Tbh the Jays not having a better record by now is due to not playing at home and all the injuries they had. They seemed to get both back now on top of major improvements at the deadline. This is going to be a fun August and September (and October hopefully)

 

[phillipmike]

I get fWAR penalizes home runs but sometimes I don’t get fWAR;

Taijuan Walker Today:
6 innings
3 ER
4 Hits
1 BB
1 K
3 HRs
-0.2 fWAR

Hyun-Jin Ryu Today:
3.2 innings
7 ER
10 Hits
1 BB
1 K
0 HRs
0.1 fWAR

 

[Eyedea]

I get fWAR penalizes home runs but sometimes I don’t get fWAR;

Taijuan Walker Today:
6 innings
3 ER
4 Hits
1 BB
1 K
3 HRs
-0.2 fWAR

Hyun-Jin Ryu Today:
3.2 innings
7 ER
10 Hits
1 BB
1 K
0 HRs
0.1 fWAR

Pitcher fWAR counts infield fly balls as strikeouts. He had 2 based on FG's boxscore so that's a 3:1 K/BB plus the unlucky .500 babip = an okay ifFIP

 

[mccabe2424]

Just got tickets for the 21st haven't been to a game in 3 years so excited!

 

[phillipmike]

 

[ShaneFalco]

I declare this the summer of George!!!

*Quite literally*

 

[BlueForever75]

The Jays couldnt have asked for a better series ending than what transpired yesterday. I am hoping that this propels them into another series win against the Angels. They are struggling with injuries to key players. They are ripe for the picking.

My goal for the Jays is to surpass Yankees in this series and close gap on Boston and Oakland by at least picking up a game on both. I have a very good feeling about this team. They have way too much heart to not make the playoffs.

My prediction is that they will catch TB by the end of the season for first in the division. The Chicago series will be very telling.

 

[Advanced stats]

Just got tickets for the 21st haven't been to a game in 3 years so excited!

It's an absolute party in there. So much fun, feels like people are making up for lost time.

 

[Woodman19]

The Jays couldnt have asked for a better series ending than what transpired yesterday. I am hoping that this propels them into another series win against the Angels. They are struggling with injuries to key players. They are ripe for the picking.

My goal for the Jays is to surpass Yankees in this series and close gap on Boston and Oakland by at least picking up a game on both. I have a very good feeling about this team. They have way too much heart to not make the playoffs.

My prediction is that they will catch TB by the end of the season for first in the division. The Chicago series will be very telling.

Closing a 7 game gap with 52 remaining seems a little steep.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Closing a 7 game gap with 52 remaining seems a little steep.

It was a piece of cake for the 2015 Blue Jays.

 

[hoc123]

Closing a 7 game gap with 52 remaining seems a little steep.

The Jays closed 7 1/2 games on the Red Sox in their last 12 games. Obviously it’s unlikely but all it takes is the Rays to struggle at the right time. Plus the Jays do play the Rays 6 more times in the season so they have the ability to catch up head to head.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[theaub]

I also think the division is out of reach (because unlike the 2015 Yankees or these Red Sox, the Rays are a legitimately good team), but WC1 should be the goal.

 

[ryno23]

I was at the Jays game yesterday. What a comeback. Question for anyone who has gone to a game this year. On the Jumbotron, they put up the scoreline. Typically you will see the innings and runs scored in each followed by total runs/hits/errors. I noticed after the error column they had a collum with M and underneath it V. That portion shows M 2 and V 0. Never saw this before and was curious to what that part stands for.

See below the collum between errors and the count

 

[Cor]

I was at the Jays game yesterday. What a comeback. Question for anyone who has gone to a game this year. On the Jumbotron, they put up the scoreline. Typically you will see the innings and runs scored in each followed by total runs/hits/errors. I noticed after the error column they had a collum with M and underneath it V. That portion shows M 2 and V 0. Never saw this before and was curious to what that part stands for.

See below the collum between errors and the count

It Mound Visits Remaining until a pitcher needs to be replaced.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[weems]

Not getting my hopes up too much considering his injury history.

A bullpen of Romano, Merryweather, Pearson, Cimber, Richards would be pretty sick tho.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Not getting my hopes up too much considering his injury history.

A bullpen of Romano, Merryweather, Pearson, Cimber, Richards would be pretty sick tho.

Hopefully Hand finds his form too. That would be a lights out pen.

 

[canucksfan]

Not getting my hopes up too much considering his injury history.

A bullpen of Romano, Merryweather, Pearson, Cimber, Richards would be pretty sick tho.

I'm guessing here but I would think he would be back 3 weeks from now at the earliest.

 

[Bjindaho]

He posted the stat.

Since Jul 1, our RP's have been on the mound for 17 high-leverage PA.

Another crazy stat is that our crazy run-differential is actually getting better month over month.

 

[ryno23]

It Mound Visits Remaining until a pitcher needs to be replaced.

Thanks Cor.

 

[weems]

Adrian Hernandez is an interesting name to follow in the minors.

21yo now pitching in AA and has the highest K/9, K%, K-BB% of any pitcher in our farm system with 20 innings pitched or more and also 5th ranked whip.

This season three levels combined

50.2 innings pitched
3-2 record
2.84 ERA
1.03 whip
26 hits allowed
88 strikeouts

 

[Discoverer]

He posted the stat.

Since Jul 1, our RP's have been on the mound for 17 high-leverage PA.

Another crazy stat is that our crazy run-differential is actually getting better month over month.

Interesting... I posted somewhere else about this a week or so ago in a discussion about Romano's usage in July... Jays pitchers had 4 high leverage PA in the entire month. Next fewest was the Royals with 34. It's actually less impressive now after a few tense, close games with Boston.