Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

[KingsHockey24]

So since we're trying to get better within, odds are we add no one July 1st?

Maybe an AHL'er?

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Interesting to think of how both franchises would feel now about the Doughty for Marner+1st deal rumored back in the summer of 2017.

I’d take that deal and run if we’re able to draft Byram.

 

[Piston]

If you believed that trading Toffoli and our 1st round pick in 2020 would get us another first round pick in THIS draft, specifically in the 7th to 15th overall position, would you make that trade? Discuss!!!

Next year’s pick will likely be a lottery selection. No way do we trade it.

 

[johnjm22]

Why can't we just trade for Marleau or Callahan then just buy them out? If you buy them out they're not taking away a roster spot from a younger player.

Marleau's buyout wouldn't affect his cap hit (6.25M)
Callahan's cap hit would only be 2.66M year one, and 1.56M year two.

I guess it depends on whether ownership is wiling to spend the money to buy a few picks. It'd be a tight fit with Marleau's cap hit, but it'd probably work.

 

[KingsFan7824]

YAWN(ey). We're being run by ex Sharks and ex Ducks... gross. Interesting though tat the article mentions Sturm is staying on. Not sure I'd seen that before.

Seriously? Lombardi, Sutter, Ferreira. Hell even McCauley has been a pro scout.

Good news, the plan is being written down and will be made available later this summer. At least BLuc are on the same page and delivering the message that they knew the team would suck, just not this fast.

So now the vision is getting younger and a new identity which focuses on winning by having skill throughout the roster. All fine ideas, but the challenge is how do you execute change.

The draft is another opportunity to make deals to turnover the roster. Given the lack of a lottery pick, the draft itself will have no real impact on next years team. So Blake needs to make a move and strike while the iron is hot. With multiple picks, he has the resources to improve next years team by getting rid of players from last years team.

What iron is hot? Their 1 year rentals are Toffoli, Clifford, Lewis, Forbort, and Campbell. Other than maybe Campbell, who needs any of those guys in October?

So since we're trying to get better within, odds are we add no one July 1st?

Maybe an AHL'er?

If the Kings do nothing except sign most of their RFA's, they can pretty much fill out both the NHL and AHL rosters. Sutter is already signed with the Reign, and I'm sure they can easily fill out the rest with random AHL talent if they want to.

I would guess the next time the Kings are active in transactions will be the deadline. They'll pick their guy at 5, most likely pick their guys at 22 and 33, maybe a mid round draft pick trade or whatever, but nothing that anyone will care about. Nobody needs the Kings old guys, especially if the cap isn't going up too much. Management has come out and said this team cannot win, so I don't know who would want to show up on July 1st. There's not going to be a ton of money available.

Since the summer of 2016, the veteran free agents they've brought in have been Purcell, Gilbert, Fantenberg, Cammalleri, Folin, Kuemper, Laich, Kovalchuk, and Mitchell. I think that's the complete list. Kovalchuk is an actual name, but other than him, and they've already said they miscalculated with him, I would say don't expect much of anything. They can easily fill out the NHL roster without doing anything, especially if they re-sign Leisic. It's also not going to be Kopitar, Brown, and a bunch of 22 year old's. There's no point to trading Lewis, and bringing in another warm body for a year. Lewis is the warm body. At this point, Kopitar and Brown are just warm bodies.

It's going to be very quiet.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Why can't we just trade for Marleau or Callahan then just buy them out? If you buy them out they're not taking away a roster spot from a younger player.

Marleau's buyout wouldn't affect his cap hit (6.25M)
Callahan's cap hit would only be 2.66M year one, and 1.56M year two.

I guess it depends on whether ownership is wiling to spend the money to buy a few picks. It'd be a tight fit with Marleau's cap hit, but it'd probably work.

I got this bad feeling there going to make a offer to someone like the bread man

 

[johnjm22]

I wonder what's going to happen with Kovalchuk. I assume he didn't come to L.A. for a rebuild.

 

[AlphaBravo]

I got this bad feeling there going to make a offer to someone like the bread man

I would bet my life that the Kings won’t make an offer to Panerin. Makes no sense at all.

 

[kovacro]

I’d rather the Kings offer sheet a Kapanen or Labanc. Go to the maximum of a 2nd round pick as compensation ($4.2 million per).

f*** this supposed gentleman’s agreement bullshit on not offer sheeting players. If you are competitive and want to build a better hockey club, you do what’s necessary. To f***ing bad, no time to feel sorry for the other guy because they sure as heck don’t feel sorry for you and the current shitty state of the Kings.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I would bet my life that the Kings won’t make an offer to Panerin. Makes no sense at all.

I have seen la in a lot of rumors with Panerin already I agree it makes no sense but Bernstein has said hes heard them as well as a few others. Only reason it makes any sense is Panerin said he want to play in a major city and La is that

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

YAWN(ey). We're being run by ex Sharks and ex Ducks... gross. Interesting though tat the article mentions Sturm is staying on. Not sure I'd seen that before.

Yawney and Sturm are both really highly regarded.

I could care less if they were Corey Perry's conjoined twin, those are impressive hires for a pretty shitty team.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I’d rather the Kings offer sheet a Kapanen or Labanc. Go to the maximum of a 2nd round pick as compensation ($4.2 million per).

**** this supposed gentleman’s agreement bull**** on not offer sheeting players. If you are competitive and want to build a better hickey club, you do what’s necessary. To ****ing bad, no time to feel sorry for the other guy because they sure as heck don’t feel sorry for you and the current ****ty state of the Kings.

Funny you say that.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id...evils-gm-ray-shero-taylor-hall-no-1-pick-more

Shero re: that myth about offer sheets:

"We all know what the CBA is. There is no gentleman's agreement. F--- that s---. When people say that, it's a lazy narrative, I'll tell you that. Really? Your ownership's competitive, GMs are competitive, and it's the buddy-buddy system? What the f--- is that? It doesn't mean something will or won't happen, but that's been the narrative for years, and I don't know why."

 

[KingsFan7824]

I got this bad feeling there going to make a offer to someone like the bread man

Why? You don't publicly say what the Kings have said, and then turn around to try to get a player. Even stupid people in charge wouldn't do that. You say you think you're a contender, to pull the mask of mediocrity over the fans eyes, and then you offer stupid money. They've said the vets on this team aren't good enough to win anymore. They couldn't have been more clear. There won't be a peep from the Kings leading up to or on July 1st. Or 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th.

I wonder what's going to happen with Kovalchuk. I assume he didn't come to L.A. for a rebuild.

That's nice. He made his bed. He went for the extra year. He should've gone to SJ or Boston. Too bad for him. He's stuck here, like all the rest of them.

 

[johnjm22]

That's nice. He made his bed. He went for the extra year. He should've gone to SJ or Boston. Too bad for him. He's stuck here, like all the rest of them.

He's movable.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Why can't we just trade for Marleau or Callahan then just buy them out? If you buy them out they're not taking away a roster spot from a younger player.

Marleau's buyout wouldn't affect his cap hit (6.25M)
Callahan's cap hit would only be 2.66M year one, and 1.56M year two.

I guess it depends on whether ownership is wiling to spend the money to buy a few picks. It'd be a tight fit with Marleau's cap hit, but it'd probably work.

Squeeze Tor or TB for what you want. If they won't meet the price, screw 'em. Walk away.

 

[KingsFan7824]

He's movable.

We'll see. He also has to want to go to wherever.

 

[tomd]

I would bet my life that the Kings won’t make an offer to Panerin. Makes no sense at all.

It does make some sense since he is only 27 years-old and would make the Kings instantly better and the PP an actual weapon again. UFA's at that age don't come around very often and unless your goal is to suck for five years, he would still be in his prime when the team is ready to challenge for the playoffs in 20-21. If you wait until you are "ready to compete" a player like that may not be available (and probably won't be). The odds of drafting a talent like Panarin in the next two years is virtually zero.

 

[kingsfan28]

I would bet my life that the Kings won’t make an offer to Panerin. Makes no sense at all.

whats he looking for, 10 mil per x 7?

 

[KINGS17]

Next year’s pick will likely be a lottery selection. No way do we trade it.

The next draft will likely see Lafreniere taken as the #1 overall. I will let others who follow junior hockey much closer than I comment, but I understand he is supposed to be better than Hughes. At 6-0 and 175 lbs or so, I like his size a lot better.

 

[KINGS17]

Why? You don't publicly say what the Kings have said, and then turn around to try to get a player. Even stupid people in charge wouldn't do that. You say you think you're a contender, to pull the mask of mediocrity over the fans eyes, and then you offer stupid money. They've said the vets on this team aren't good enough to win anymore. They couldn't have been more clear. There won't be a peep from the Kings leading up to or on July 1st. Or 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th.



That's nice. He made his bed. He went for the extra year. He should've gone to SJ or Boston. Too bad for him. He's stuck here, like all the rest of them.

I think the Kings still have an opportunity to move a player or two with more than one year remaining on their contract, if they are willing to retain a little cap hit. Doing so really does the Kings no harm.

 

[King'sPawn]

The next draft will likely see Lafreniere taken as the #1 overall. I will let others who follow junior hockey much closer than I comment, but I understand he is supposed to be better than Hughes. At 6-0 and 175 lbs or so, I like his size a lot better.

Lafreniere is the front runner, but I actually like Quinton Byfield more. He's still 16 years old (turns 17 in August), is 6'4, and has incredible speed and skill.

Just wanted to chime in

 

[Kingsfan1]

Lafreniere is the front runner, but I actually like Quinton Byfield more. He's still 16 years old (turns 17 in August), is 6'4, and has incredible speed and skill.

Just wanted to chime in

Next years draft is Pejorative Sluredly deep , I wish Toronto’s pick was next years . Until 20+ ranking prospects are close to a PPG this year and some even above PPG. There is elite and superstar talent throughout the first round . I hope we get top 3 pick! Can’t go wrong with either

 

[KINGS17]

Lafreniere is the front runner, but I actually like Quinton Byfield more. He's still 16 years old (turns 17 in August), is 6'4, and has incredible speed and skill.

Just wanted to chime in

Thanks, I don't follow these kids enough to have a well informed opinion this early. Generally, is the next draft class a good one?

 

[LAKings88]

Next years draft is ******edly deep , I wish Toronto’s pick was next years . Until 20+ ranking prospects are close to a PPG this year and some even above PPG. There is elite and superstar talent throughout the first round . I hope we get top 3 pick! Can’t go wrong with either

This, a top 5 pick next year would be huge.

 

[RocketKing]

It does make some sense since he is only 27 years-old and would make the Kings instantly better and the PP an actual weapon again. UFA's at that age don't come around very often and unless your goal is to suck for five years, he would still be in his prime when the team is ready to challenge for the playoffs in 20-21. If you wait until you are "ready to compete" a player like that may not be available (and probably won't be). The odds of drafting a talent like Panarin in the next two years is virtually zero.

If LA has a shot at Panarin then they have to go for it. Its just that simple. I don't know if they have a shot but who knows maybe he really covets living here in the West Coast in LA? IMO - if he's interested the HAVE to see if it pans out.