Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish - Part IX

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mikethelegacy

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So Madden "injury" information that he said was "Legit News", was just:

"Sid isn't hurt, he's just playing bad."

Thanks for that great insight, Madden.
 

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/penguins-not-done-trying-to-swing-deals/

“I don’t think anybody is content with where they are at this time of year, because it really doesn’t matter (how good your team is in February),†Crosby said. “We’ve been a pretty good example of that in the past.â€


Best quote i'v read in a long time, i think this team finally gets it, regular season champs don't get you anything.

From that article:

He wants a defenceman for sure, and a left-winger to put next to Malkin is also a priority.

JR does know the salary cap exists right? :laugh:

Anyway, assuming that is true, you have to subtract someone from the roster other than Beau Bennett to get a dman and a top 6 left winger.
 

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Craig Patrick is my boss's father and I know Craig and the Pens didn't have a very happy parting of ways. I don't know specifics but I know there was a lawsuit of some sort. He's obviously my boss so I'm not trying to press for information, lol.

Man I'd be pressing for all kinds of stories and inside info. That would be a great guy to shoot the **** with.
 

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From that article:



JR does know the salary cap exists right? :laugh:

Anyway, assuming that is true, you have to subtract someone from the roster other than Beau Bennett to get a dman and a top 6 left winger.

You do realize what LW for Malkin means, right? It means Hornqvist is on his RW. And, if that's the case . . . :cry:

Craig Patrick is my boss's father and I know Craig and the Pens didn't have a very happy parting of ways. I don't know specifics but I know there was a lawsuit of some sort. He's obviously my boss so I'm not trying to press for information, lol.

Ouch.

So, would CP have taken Malkin over Ovechkin at the 2004 draft as Dejan said in today's article. As I said, would've taken big balls (and there were stories about a few people who say they'd have taken Malkin first if given the choice), but in a league where centers are so important and where his best center prospect going into the 2004 NHL draft was Erik Christensen, I could see him being a guy who might have done it.
 

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I'd never heard this one before:

http://dkonpittsburghsports.com/2015/02/04/column-penguins-oilers-contrasts-luck/

'I was in favor of Patrick’s firing when it occurred, largely because his methodologies lagged so badly behind the times. But no one should forget that he made a fine pick at No. 18 overall in Brooks Orpik, uncovered Game 7 hero Maxime Talbot at 234th overall, boldly traded up in the 2003 draft to No. 1 to get Marc-Andre Fleury and, the following year, would have taken Malkin over Ovechkin had he owned the No. 1 pick. He says that, and I’ve not known the man to lie. And man, talk about a bold thought.

I’ll also give credit for the Sergei Gonchar signing, which was almost universally mocked at the time because of the five-year, $25 million contract, but Gonchar became a rock for the franchise. It was an excellent use of payroll.'

Anyone ever hear this one before?

I mean, it would've taken someone who didn't give a **** about what anyone else thought, and, in fairness, Sid wasn't even on the Penguins radar, and the organization's center with highest upside was Erik Christensen.

But, damn that would've taken some ball.


I heard an interview with CP a long time ago on a pittsburgh radio station after CP got the job in Columbus, he didn't say he would of taken Geno, he said he liked Geno a lot and might of taken him if he got the first pick.

CP was also really proud of his MAF pick, he considered that move one of the best moves he made with the pens.
 

mikethelegacy

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Man I'd be pressing for all kinds of stories and inside info. That would be a great guy to shoot the **** with.

Yeah, he's an awesome guy. We talk hockey all the time. I just don't like pressing for info. Obviously it's a touchy subject and my boss isn't the biggest fan of the Penguins, lol.

I know a buddy of mine that works here is a big Buffalo fan, so he's always wondering if my boss has insider info on the Sabres, lol
 

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I heard an interview with CP a long time ago on a pittsburgh radio station after CP got the job in Columbus, he didn't say he would of taken Geno, he said he liked Geno a lot and might of taken him if he got the first pick.

CP was also really proud of his MAF pick, he considered that move one of the best moves he made with the pens.

That's about what I heard.

A few guys had Malkin ranked equal, and center is a more important position, but man would that have taken some balls, and it would've been an ugly year or so for a team with Ovi winning ROY and Malkin in Russia. :laugh:
 

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In regards to Kunitz, Madden said he not only would like to be moved because Bylsma was fired, but he wants to be moved to a market where the hockey team doesn't get much media attention.

If this is true, I hope JR moves him to Toronto. ;)
 

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In regards to Kunitz, Madden said he not only would like to be moved because Bylsma was fired, but he wants to be moved to a market where the hockey team doesn't get much media attention.

If this is true, I hope JR moves him to Toronto. ;)

Sutter and Kunitz for Stoll, Williams, conditional pick. :D
 

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In regards to Kunitz, Madden said he not only would like to be moved because Bylsma was fired, but he wants to be moved to a market where the hockey team doesn't get much media attention.

If this is true, I hope JR moves him to Toronto. ;)

That would be possibly the greatest "Eff you" deal ever made.

He'd be begging for Rossi after the introductory presser.
 

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In regards to Kunitz, Madden said he not only would like to be moved because Bylsma was fired, but he wants to be moved to a market where the hockey team doesn't get much media attention.

If this is true, I hope JR moves him to Toronto. ;)

You think the media attention comment is more towards the In the Room crap?

"This week, on In the Room, we visit with the Kunitz family to watch his kids fail in school and his marriage be pushed to the brink of divorce due to his slumping performance."
 

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No. That's the first I've heard of that.

CP wasn't afraid of going against convention at times, though. And he was pretty savvy. I can see him understanding that a big, rangy center with near-unlimited upside might be a better choice in the long term than a mostly-finished-product bull-sniper. LouLam said much the same at the time... so it isn't a stretch.

Lou may have said it...but the person I remember saying Malkin could very well be the better player was David Conte, NJD director of scouting

http://www.russianhockey.us/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=9;t=002741

This time, it's Ovechkin and Malkin, which happened to be the draft order in 2004. Penguins fans were devastated, because their last-place team had lost the lottery and the right to take Ovechkin.

Others saw a silver lining.

David Conte, highly respected scouting director for the New Jersey Devils, told me not to be stunned if Malkin turned out to be every bit as good as Ovechkin.

"He's an exceptional talent," Conte said of Malkin at the time. "And it's not unreasonable to think a guy who goes second could be better than the guy who goes first. The draft, you have to remember, is like going into the 10th grade and predicting who the best doctors will be."
 

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In regards to Kunitz, Madden said he not only would like to be moved because Bylsma was fired, but he wants to be moved to a market where the hockey team doesn't get much media attention.

If this is true, I hope JR moves him to Toronto. ;)

I hope he knows that other teams PR departments don't lay the praise for their non-star players on quite as thick. He'd better pray that he doesn't end up anywhere in Canada.
 

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so today on trib radio when Mackey+Yohe were on.
http://filesource.abacast.com/tribtotal/206PENS15.mp3

Yohe basically said that the reason Kunitz is with Crosby is because that's what Crosby wants. Also that there is some truth to the Crosby doesn't want to skate with Hornqvist, but that it could be because Crosby doesn't want Perron taken from him. Also a bit of babble about how Crosby is picky over whom he skates with, etc.


This kinda jives with some things we've seen over the years. Perhaps Iginla wasn't with Crosby not because Blysma is an idiot (he is but still) but because of Crosby dictating his line mates.

It's not a new thing that a super star player has some say over who he plays with. But it rubs me the wrong way. It's one thing if your Mario and you pull some of this and you go off and win a couple of cups.

It's another if you are doing this and you are failing in the post season.
 

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so today on trib radio when Mackey+Yohe were on.
http://filesource.abacast.com/tribtotal/206PENS15.mp3

Yohe basically said that the reason Kunitz is with Crosby is because that's what Crosby wants. Also that there is some truth to the Crosby doesn't want to skate with Hornqvist, but that it could be because Crosby doesn't want Perron taken from him. Also a bit of babble about how Crosby is picky over whom he skates with, etc.


This kinda jives with some things we've seen over the years. Perhaps Iginla wasn't with Crosby not because Blysma is an idiot (he is but still) but because of Crosby dictating his line mates.

It's not a new thing that a super star player has some say over who he plays with. But it rubs me the wrong way. It's one thing if your Mario and you pull some of this and you go off and win a couple of cups.

It's another if you are doing this and you are failing in the post season.

As people keep saying, Kunitz has to be shipped away from Crosby. It's for his own good.
 

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I somehow doubt that Sid would rather play with Dupuis than a HOFer like Iginla, especially when he had a big hand in acquiring him in the first place.
 

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I somehow doubt that Sid would rather play with Dupuis than a HOFer like Iginla, especially when he had a big hand in acquiring him in the first place.

you would think.
BUT.
you would also think he would want Hornqvist over Kunitz.

After the comments about Crosby and Hornqvist not skating fast enough for him (like Kunitz is fast), could he maybe want Pascal because of his speed over slow boat iginla. I can kind of see it. The more I hear this season the less I like our Captain ;(
 

Jacob

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you would think.
BUT.
you would also think he would want Hornqvist over Kunitz.

After the comments about Crosby and Hornqvist not skating fast enough for him (like Kunitz is fast), could he maybe want Pascal because of his speed over slow boat iginla. I can kind of see it. The more I hear this season the less I like our Captain ;(

They shouldn't even be asking him. They should set the lines and be done with it. It's not like Sid's going to refuse to play or something.
 

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you would think.
BUT.
you would also think he would want Hornqvist over Kunitz.

After the comments about Crosby and Hornqvist not skating fast enough for him (like Kunitz is fast), could he maybe want Pascal because of his speed over slow boat iginla. I can kind of see it. The more I hear this season the less I like our Captain ;(

If it's all true, and I'm not sold yet, then just give Crosby his ****** wingers, and put Perron with Malkin and Hornqvist.
 

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you would think.
BUT.
you would also think he would want Hornqvist over Kunitz.

After the comments about Crosby and Hornqvist not skating fast enough for him (like Kunitz is fast), could he maybe want Pascal because of his speed over slow boat iginla. I can kind of see it. The more I hear this season the less I like our Captain ;(

I find it sad that you base how much you like someone off of comments made from professional rumormongers.

I mean, Sid is one of the nicest guys in the sport, does a lot for the community, and is known to be incredibly hard working, but if Yohe and Rossi say something about him you don't like then it's definitely reason to dislike him.
 

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I would bet the farm that this crap about Crosby dictating his linemates is complete and utter garbage.
 

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Doesn't Rossi love to make up stuff about Sid? I seem to recall last year he was going on speculating some weird stuff about his romantic life or some **** like that. He's such a little weasel so I'll never believe a word he says about the Pens.
 
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