I was waiting for the letang trade rumor to be brought up... the madden would just yell i know more than you and hang up.
Pittsburgh Sports Media Gibberish: Bombulie to restore order @ the Trib
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I was waiting for the letang trade rumor to be brought up... the madden would just yell i know more than you and hang up.
ColePens
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I wish Rossi would not write w/ such emotion when he's frustrated because it makes him terrible. The article you posted is a well-thought perfect article. Not only because I agree with it, but because you can see that he took the time to play the scenario out for readers. He gave examples. He gave quotes. He consistently backed up words he was saying with actions from the organization.
That is how he should always be writing. Too bad that doesn't get as many hits as him and DK going off on JR. Sad. And that's why we don't see more articles like that from anyone because respectful, credible, and honest writing gets no money nowadays.
Example: That article was 4/11 and that wa the first time I read it. It's been talked about in like 3 posts. The flame article on JR got it's own thread and over 500 posts
le siiiighcolligan calls out crosby in one blurb and then subscribes to the idea that crisis reveals character in another blurb on icecreamgate. not a stretch to say the pens are in crisis right now, so is colligan of the mind that crosby doesnt have the character to lead this team?
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I think you are reaching there.
I think it's safe to say Sid is quite irritable over the last 6 years. I'm sure injuries, team success, wingers, team direction, etc. has all worn him down a bit. It's a combination of all. His character, in time of need, is quite questionable. That's not saying he's a bad leader. That's far from it.
I think he points out the crisis is causing the issue as a whole. That was my interpretation.
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I saw Toews get visibly frustrated in the Det series a couple of seasons ago and quit on his team. People don't talk about what he did because his entire team put their captain on their shoulders and carried him to another cup.
Crosby has no such luxury, and an immense amount of pressure on him. I'm surprised he has handled the lack of support and Mickey Mouse mgmt plus coaching so well all of this time.
I'm 100% sure Towes would have lost his **** by now judging by his selfish meltdowns in Det.
I honestly will be surprised if we don't hear some kind of rumblings that Malkin or Crosby may want traded after the playoffs end. I doubt it happens, but another year or two of this kind of ineptness and I think our biggest fears could come true for this org. It's sadly gotten close to the point I never imagined possible.
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Stamkos hasn't scored a goal, Tampa is 2-2 with Home Ice.
Ovechkin WAS 0-0 -1 when Washington was up 3-1, I don't know what he finished at.
Getzlaf was relatively quiet in a sweep of the Jets.
Rick Nash has been MIA, the Rangers are up 3-1.
I could give more examples, but the point is: Crosby is being asked to do things no other player is asked or expected to do. He's getting no ****ing help, outside of Hornqvist. It's basically a two-man show offensively, and a one-man show (Fleury) defensively.
I give Malkin a pass (for the most part) because he's hurt, but that will leaves 9 ****ing forward spots devoid of offensive ability. And yes, I understand the D are hurting the situation, but the Pens had a ton of zone time last game, and still couldn't put the puck in the net.
Asking Sid to play like he's played and to NOT be frustrated is insane.
In fact, the same people begging him to get emotional and engaged are probably the same people who are criticizing him for his performance in this series.
Ovechkin WAS 0-0 -1 when Washington was up 3-1, I don't know what he finished at.
Getzlaf was relatively quiet in a sweep of the Jets.
Rick Nash has been MIA, the Rangers are up 3-1.
I could give more examples, but the point is: Crosby is being asked to do things no other player is asked or expected to do. He's getting no ****ing help, outside of Hornqvist. It's basically a two-man show offensively, and a one-man show (Fleury) defensively.
I give Malkin a pass (for the most part) because he's hurt, but that will leaves 9 ****ing forward spots devoid of offensive ability. And yes, I understand the D are hurting the situation, but the Pens had a ton of zone time last game, and still couldn't put the puck in the net.
Asking Sid to play like he's played and to NOT be frustrated is insane.
In fact, the same people begging him to get emotional and engaged are probably the same people who are criticizing him for his performance in this series.
I agree with what everyone has said and was more pointing out that snapping at rob Rossi reveals very little about a persons character whether times are good or bad and I think that Colligan knows that.
Exactly, I amazed that anyone analyzes what JR has done to this roster and says "we are as close as ever"... "we need two to three" players and we are fine.
JR took the pile of crap left by Shero and took a dump on it:
MJ is a bust of a coach. Tocchet should still be on a couch.
No picks because of masterful overpayment by JR.
Perron at his current rate is a bust for a 1st rounder. (sorry projecting into the future doesn't count)
So- basically, JR went all in and we are getting 4-1 by the Rangers in ROUND 1.... Yeah, good thing he had the vision to know going all in would get us NOTHING... ROUND 1 Exit again.
Add in Cap Management, Despres, Lovejoy is garbage on skates. All you have do is basic eye test and the analytics are ****ing worse. My mom can pass better.
JR is ****ing horrible- and i didn't even list out the rest of his crap moves. We are further away because of this idiot hire and hopefully, they aren't really dumb enough to think BG is better.
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So they got a NHL player for nothing, since future projections don't count and all. Don't see how that's a bust.
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I remember responding to a Madden tweet a couple years ago. I said how Sid and Geno need more help. His response was citing Dupuis, Kunitz and Neal stats. And "how many stars are needed?"
Now he's saying they never built around them properly in his latest article. It's nice they finally see the light, but like you said, it may be too late. They don't have much forward talent coming, and they've never prioritized their linemates under the salary cap.
It may take an ugly offseason with Sid and Geno talking to ownership to make this right. Moving Kunitz and Dupuis just going away would be a start.
I wish Rossi would not write w/ such emotion when he's frustrated because it makes him terrible. The article you posted is a well-thought perfect article. Not only because I agree with it, but because you can see that he took the time to play the scenario out for readers. He gave examples. He gave quotes. He consistently backed up words he was saying with actions from the organization.
That is how he should always be writing. Too bad that doesn't get as many hits as him and DK going off on JR. Sad. And that's why we don't see more articles like that from anyone because respectful, credible, and honest writing gets no money nowadays.
Example: That article was 4/11 and that wa the first time I read it. It's been talked about in like 3 posts. The flame article on JR got it's own thread and over 500 posts
It was unusual for RR, I.e. Fairly well-written.
However I suspect the stuff about Malkn and Crosby feeling angry (I believe he's mentioned before that it 'United them' in their anger of whatnot) may have been one of the examples that DK is calling him on, for being incorrect fact-wise.
He has no quotes to confirm what appears to be his presumption that Sid and Geno were unhappy, or that the whole episode brought them closers.
That's pure speculation...
A first rounder is nothing in deep draft. I see you are currently employed as a Pens GM.
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A first rounder is nothing in deep draft. I see you are currently employed as a Pens GM.
he's... using... your... definition... of... projecting... future... production...
A first rounder is nothing in deep draft. I see you are currently employed as a Pens GM.
You need to read the post he was quoting in order to understand it. It's not that hard to do that before you click the reply button.
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A first rounder is nothing in deep draft. I see you are currently employed as a Pens GM.
Well, judging by your views ("projecting into the future doesn't count") that 1st round pick doesn't hold a lot of value to you. Unless you view draft picks as way more valuable than actual player to put on the ice. I figured you were judging everything in a "win this year" mode.
If you can't factor in a player's future, then you can't factor in a draft pick's possible future value, which is insanely more volatile than a current player's future value.
As Shady, and others, keep saying... you draft a 1st rounder hoping to get Perron (he's a .5 PPG player with the Pens- even with a terrible slump). That's not a bust.
I know exactly what he is doing. Trolling is great but basically his mindset is that of the Lovejoy trade. (which i was actually poking fun at)
Would you rather have a 30 year old that did nothing for the Pens (I know all the stats, etc. and our complete mismanagment of RW LW for Perron) or would you rather have a Oskar Sundqvist or Kasperi Kapanen?
Once again it goes back to - WE WENT ALL IN, we are further from advancing, AND NOW WE HAVE ZERO draft picks. But most of you are okay with this and we should give JR more of a chance to **** this up.
It is with this coaching staff and how we use them.
We don't play him on his natural side, we won't move him up and down the line to get him going, etc.
If Perron was going to take us over the top then give up the 1st Rounder, but we are just as bad as the last few years- Round 1 rout and we went all in.
And furthermore, Perron like the rest of JR's strategy does not make sense. Odd collection of Grinders, Toughness, non-ability to actually generate offense outside Sid and Geno. Sure maybe a coach and a descent system might get Perron going but I would not bet that coming from our GM's.
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Apparently more than our GM's...
Not so good for the peeps of this board, funny enough I wonder how 9 of us would do running the Pens.
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i dunno, but I do know that exactly 0 of my posts and press conferences and interviews would contain logical fallacies.
Worse, you don't even comprehend what people are saying.
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Oh, and I caught this little tidbit yesterday with Madden when he was on with that dummy Kolbe.
He was talking about Malkin in the '08 Final when he was struggling against the Detroit. He actually said that Whitney and Orpik told him that Geno was griping in the locker room that he would rather be at the World Championships than playing for a Cup.
He was talking about Malkin in the '08 Final when he was struggling against the Detroit. He actually said that Whitney and Orpik told him that Geno was griping in the locker room that he would rather be at the World Championships than playing for a Cup.
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