Prospect Info: Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread: 2023-2024 Edition

[Holtbyisms]

I gotta ask, why would you want to be a season ticket holder for a NAHL team?

I had multiple teammates who played in the NAHL on my college team, and we only a club ACHA team

There's definitely some low budget teams out there but Johnstown annually is at the top of the attendance charts. Our arena is pretty decent, we won Hockeyville a handful of years back. Our ownership group has a pretty good chunk of change so the production they put on at the arena feels professional. Is there a good reason not to go watch good local hockey?

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Capitals fan coming in peace... I'm a season ticket holder at my local NAHL rink and our goalie (Zack Ferris) was invited to your dev camp. Is he actually there? Haven't really seen anything except our team post a congrats on the invite on social media. How's he looking if he is there?

If he was invited, he either didn't accept, didn't show, or had the invitation pulled. He wasn't on the initial camp roster and he wasn't on the scrimmage rosters used today to finish camp.

Penguins Announce 2024 Development Camp Roster | Pittsburgh Penguins

The Pittsburgh Penguins have announced their 2024 development camp roster, which will be held from July 6-10 at the UPMC Lemieux Sports Complex in Cranberry. Forty-eight prospects will convene for the five-day camp which features on-ice sessions each day. A full camp roster, which is made up of...

www.nhl.com

 

[HandshakeLine]

It's clear that Howe is a Sully type player. Yager isn't. It's not that hard to figure out.

Plus Yager has a gambling addiction and will blow his signing bonus hanging out with Despres.

It's true, Sully loves his sandpaper/agitators. Anyhow, sad to hear Yager has been found doing fat rails at the Spearmint Rhino. And getting pinched for shoplifting toothpicks at Get Go?

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Quoting my previous post on rankings since I messed up and had to update it.

Annnnd here is 20 to 11:

20​	tankov k
19​	broz t
18​	ludvig j
17​	brunicke h
16​	kral f
15​	gruden j
14​	jarventie e
13​	plante z
12​	swanson m
11​	gauthier t

	st ivany j
10​	pieniniemi e
9​	howe t
	hallander f
8​	poulin s
7​	ilyin m
6​	murashov s

 

[deakka]

Would be nice for Yager to sign ofc. But one thing to note is that even tho Yager and Howe were drafted in different drafts, they can turn pro (AHL) the same year, next. Cause they are both '05 born.

I dont like drafting late birthhdays btw. Cause Howe really should have been producing like a draft+1 year. It's also his last shot at the WJC and he wont make it.

But as far as ELC goes I see Howe and Yager as the same timeline.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

	st ivany j
10​	pieniniemi e
9​	howe t
	hallander f
8​	poulin s
7​	ilyin m
6​	murashov s

Hallander peaced out. He doesn't seem to want to play for Sullivan at all.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Would be nice for Yager to sign ofc. But one thing to note is that even tho Yager and Howe were drafted in different drafts, they can turn pro (AHL) the same year, next. Cause they are both '05 born.

I dont like drafting late birthhdays btw. Cause Howe really should have been producing like a draft+1 year. It's also his last shot at the WJC and he wont make it.

But as far as ELC goes I see Howe and Yager as the same timeline.

Yeah but his production was solid in his D-1 if you look at it like a really young draft year. Team effects in his D-0 limited him but still was “the guy” by some margin.

Production not an issue with me for Howe.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Just like the Crosby signing, I won't feel comfortable until Yager is actually signed. I have been concerned about this all off-season. Now Howe signs. OK, great. Where is our top prospect by far?

Also, Sullivan's idea of sandpaper agitators is the least tough, most useless versions of those types of players that it should not even be a thing.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Also, Sullivan's idea of sandpaper agitators is the least tough, most useless versions of those types of players that it should not even be a thing.

I do not actually believe Sullivan likes agitators.

 

[Jacob]

I do not actually believe Sullivan likes agitators.

I don't think he likes scrums or trash-talking or anything that is perceived as losing focus on the task at hand, which is winning the game.

Which is kind of fair. Teams, even the Panthers, can lose their focus and get in a lot of penalty trouble resulting in losing games.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I don't think he likes scrums or trash-talking or anything that is perceived as losing focus on the task at hand, which is winning the game.

I think he doesn't even care about that, given how lacking in focus our PP was. I'll be damned if I know what's really important for Sullivan. Rookies can come in, pot a goal and tally an assist and then get benched for a period over some weird illusory mistake. Vets can sit around not doing ANYTHING and get rewarded. Unless you're a vet that Sullivan doesn't like.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Hallander peaced out. He doesn't seem to want to play for Sullivan at all.

When we do our rankings we will probably have to decide if we want to keep Hallander in them or not.

He technically is still our guy. Just a
Probably a .5% chance he comes back.

 

[SomeDude]

When we do our rankings we will probably have to decide if we want to keep Hallander in them or not.

He technically is still our guy. Just a
Probably a .5% chance he comes back.

The dude is under contract until he's 28 years old. He's not coming back. He can be the Morozov of Sweden.

 

[Factorial]

The dude is under contract until he's 28 years old. He's not coming back. He can be the Morozov of Sweden.

He may and he's a Pens property, as odd as that sounds.

 

[Tom Hanks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811575174220730382

 

[SomeDude]

He may and he's a Pens property, as odd as that sounds.

It's over. He shouldn't be listed on any prospect list. He's only Pens property in the same sense Sergei Anshakov was listed on the Pens reserve list every training camp for like 15 years.

 

[Factorial]

It's over. He shouldn't be listed on any prospect list. He's only Pens property in the same sense Sergei Anshakov was listed on the Pens reserve list every training camp for like 15 years.

 

[Jacob]

I’m in favor of keeping him off the prospect rankings. If there’s any sign he wants to come back over we can put him back on.

 

[Ryder71]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811575174220730382

 

[OtherThingsILike]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811575174220730382

This isn't too surprising. From what Canes fans were saying, Koivunen is NHL-ready except for his skating. So essentially the only thing holding him back would be how quickly he can get that up to an NHL level.

Edit: Oh, cool. Taylor says essentially the same thing in the article.

 

[Gurglesons]

• An example of that: The Penguins' Russian scout Alexander Khavanov -- who was hired in July 2021 and around for the Sergei Murashov and Mikhail Ilyin picks -- left the organization last summer to take a scouting position with the Russian National Team. Dubas had increased responsibilities of the scouts when he took over, and Khavanov didn't like it and stepped down. He was quickly replaced by Leonid Vaysfeld, a former longtime KHL general manager with multiple clubs who also worked as an NHL amateur scout from 1990-03 with the Maple Leafs and Rangers. Vaysfeld had been working as a KHL analyst for Russian TV when he was hired by the Penguins. The Penguins then also hired a second Russian scout in Evgeni Bogdanovich, who worked as a scout with the Thrashers/Jets from 1999-2023, including directing the Jets' European scouting for the last 11 years. One guy leaves, they bring in two more with impressive resumes.

Taylor said this too.

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I know there were some questions about Russian scouts.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811575174220730382

Hopefully he proves me wrong.

 

[Tom Hanks]

A bit more detail of why Yager can’t be in the AHL

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811621567991796111

 

[Malkinstheman]

A bit more detail of why Yager can’t be in the AHL

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811621567991796111

The Clark hire is part of Fenway and Dubas' overall increased development to both development and scouting. Those staffs keep growing.

An example of that: The Penguins' Russian scout Alexander Khavanov -- who was hired in July 2021 and around for the Sergei Murashov and Mikhail Ilyin picks -- left the organization last summer to take a scouting position with the Russian National Team. Dubas had increased responsibilities of the scouts when he took over, and Khavanov didn't like it and stepped down. He was quickly replaced by Leonid Vaysfeld, a former longtime KHL general manager with multiple clubs who also worked as an NHL amateur scout from 1990-03 with the Maple Leafs and Rangers. Vaysfeld had been working as a KHL analyst for Russian TV when he was hired by the Penguins. The Penguins then also hired a second Russian scout in Evgeni Bogdanovich, who worked as a scout with the Thrashers/Jets from 1999-2023, including directing the Jets' European scouting for the last 11 years. One guy leaves, they bring in two more with impressive resumes.

Interesting tidbit regarding the Russian scouts.

 

[DearDiary]

Just like the Crosby signing, I won't feel comfortable until Yager is actually signed. I have been concerned about this all off-season. Now Howe signs. OK, great. Where is our top prospect by far?

Also, Sullivan's idea of sandpaper agitators is the least tough, most useless versions of those types of players that it should not even be a thing.

The Penguins are at 49/50 contracts, yet they signed Howe first. Could be that they view him as more NHL ready or something completely different like Howe being in debt and needing the money asap. Regardless, Yager isn't getting signed until a contract gets moved out

 

[eXile3]

This isn't too surprising. From what Canes fans were saying, Koivunen is NHL-ready except for his skating. So essentially the only thing holding him back would be how quickly he can get that up to an NHL level.

Edit: Oh, cool. Taylor says essentially the same thing in the article.

Is skating really going to improve that much more at 21? It mentions also getting stronger which would improve his speed I guess.