Prospect Info: Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread: 2023-2024 Edition
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McGroarty2
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Could he replace Guentzel next season? Could allocate the money saved for 3rd line.I think he could play now as a small winger. (might get killed along the boards) but he wants to prove that he's a center.I missed most of the game so how did he do on the faceoffs? last game he looked great there.
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Bro we are not declaring Yager ready to go after 2 goals at a prospect tourney jfc
I don't think that would be a good idea even if he could. he's doing everything he can to play center and that will take a little longer to do. but if he can, you will have a player in a more difficult pos. When you have a choice of winger or center, you pick center every time. plus, he's a righty and that makes him even more valuable as a center. he's making progress so i think it would be best to just let him develop at his own speed. I can see him being the perfect center for geno"s last years.
Big Friggin Dummy
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I mean, Yager was projected by some to be a top-5 pick before his draft season. /shrug
Dude's got talent. It's there. He might bust, he might be nothing worthwhile, but he might also be a steal. We just probably won't know for several years.
Dude's got talent. It's there. He might bust, he might be nothing worthwhile, but he might also be a steal. We just probably won't know for several years.
BlindWillyMcHurt
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Missed the game yesterday. Poulin, Yager and Jagger all score. Blomqvist with the shutout. Can't hate that result... Summer hockey or not.
No, however I would put him in training camp and in preseason games next to Sid at LW. See if he can be competent and productive there. I wouldn’t put it past him to do well there for 9 games while Jake is healing. If he can’t cut, no loss…send him
back to juniors early. I’d give Yager and Poulin and Puusty every opportunity to succeed in our top six on a temporary basis…I’d rather see them replace Jake than Hinestroza or Johnsson
BlindWillyMcHurt
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People will shit on this idea but I hate it less than playing some shlub, honestly. I mean... if Jake really is only out a handful of games. I dunno about Yager because he's awfully raw and admittedly a project. But I more mean that in general I'd prefer the team give that look to a younger player that is supposed to be some kind of difference maker in this system. See what they have.
We already have the book on Hino, Johnsson, Pitlik, etc.
All that said... Sullivan would probably rather take a bubble bath with his grandma than do something like that. Watch it be flippin' Carter.
Empoleon8771
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As someone who was on the "play Poulin with Malkin" camp after Poulin had 77 points in 46 games in the QMJHL in 2019-2020, let Poulin be a cautionary tale about trying to hype up prospects into notable roles before they've shown anything professionally.
Gurglesons
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Poulin should 100% be playing on our opening night roster if he keeps up his play from last year when he was up this year in camp.
KrisLetAngry
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Yes. He can be in the NHL 20/21 not right now. Let him get minutes and continue to develop.
HandshakeLine
A real jerk thing
The problem isn't even really that our prospects are lackluster. It's that we have a bunch of aging vets already plugged into spots where they could play and be fine and "we believe in paying our ~*DuEs*~".
Gurglesons
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Who?
X - Crosby - Rakell
Smith - Malkin - Rust
X - Eller - Acciari
Nieto - Carter - X
Is essentially what we have signed outside of DOC, Nylander, etc.
Obviously Jake and Rust will be on L1 once he is healthy.
SomeDude
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No, the problem isn’t that our prospects are lackluster. It’s that they’re non-existent and just crappy.
BlindWillyMcHurt
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I mean... yeah the Penguins young players are no great shakes. And yeah I don't think it's super smart to just toss guys right into the fire. But I guess I'm just saying that if Jake really is only out like 5-9 games I don't see what it could really hurt. They had flippin' Nylander playing with Malkin on the second line for stretches last year and it didn't look any worse than Rust there.
And yes.. I know. Low bar.
And yes.. I know. Low bar.
HandshakeLine
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Carter. Neito. Eller is probably toast.
Like I don't really expect much from our prospects, but I think that bottom 6 is very much not good still. That's the issue.
I mean, that is basically the entire roster. The shining lights on this squad are mediocrities. Woo-hoo 15-20g guys that try really hard and kinda hit.
Gurglesons
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Some off the invites for the rookie tournament on the NHL training camp roster.
F Matthew Soto (2005)
D Andre Anania (2003)
G Michael Simpson (2003)
Not counting the younger guys on AHL contracts (Vierling, Hayes etc)
No idea of that means anything. But if we were to sign an undrafted plater to an ELC, those guys might have the inside track?
Soto for example was eligible to be drafted for the first time this summer, so.he will re-enter the draft for sure next summer unless signed to an ELC. Not sure about the 03 borns.
So.maybe he's the one to take.a chance on? Can also play in the juniors at least 2 more years sliding the ELC
F Matthew Soto (2005)
D Andre Anania (2003)
G Michael Simpson (2003)
Not counting the younger guys on AHL contracts (Vierling, Hayes etc)
No idea of that means anything. But if we were to sign an undrafted plater to an ELC, those guys might have the inside track?
Soto for example was eligible to be drafted for the first time this summer, so.he will re-enter the draft for sure next summer unless signed to an ELC. Not sure about the 03 borns.
So.maybe he's the one to take.a chance on? Can also play in the juniors at least 2 more years sliding the ELC
HandshakeLine
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I don't expect to win anything, so why not? It's not like I think that bottom 6 is going to do much besides take up space.
Or to put it another way, if we didn't have those deadweight guys on there like Carter, we could have easily fit a kid or two there, save some cap, and maybe find some cheap serviceable 4th liners for absolutely nothing.
Again, I don't have any expectations that these kids are going to be hidden gems or whatever. I just don't get what's so great about hoping Eller and Carter remember how to play hockey instead of running with whoever the hot hand in WB/S is at that very second.
Freeptop
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Got to watch a good chunk of the last prospect game.
Two main impressions:
1. Actually pretty impressive that the prospects quickly picked up on what the coaches wanted them to do for the third game. It was especially noticeable thanks to the Sabres' broadcasters constantly talking about how their coaches only had two days to try to teach them how to play their system
2. Man, did watching that illustrate the difference between raw prospects and NHL quality hockey... so much sloppiness. Passes that would have been received by NHL players (despite not being the best passes to receive), plays picked off because the puck was being moved just a smidge slower than at the NHL level, players knocked off of pucks a bit easier, etc.
Aside from that, I have to say Yager certainly seems to get better the more he's played. Same was true in the summer camp. In the early games, he needed to get his legs under him, but once he did, he started being more noticeable. Say what you will about the wipeout, but that was the result of him harassing a defender at the point into coughing up the puck, then he took off on a breakaway. He managed to do that several times, and cashed in on one of the opportunities he created that way. That speaks well of his hockey IQ, and I hold that to be one of the most critical aspects to any prospect or player in the NHL. I'll be curious to see what he can do in preseason games when he's up against some actual NHL players (or even just AHL players).
Two main impressions:
1. Actually pretty impressive that the prospects quickly picked up on what the coaches wanted them to do for the third game. It was especially noticeable thanks to the Sabres' broadcasters constantly talking about how their coaches only had two days to try to teach them how to play their system
2. Man, did watching that illustrate the difference between raw prospects and NHL quality hockey... so much sloppiness. Passes that would have been received by NHL players (despite not being the best passes to receive), plays picked off because the puck was being moved just a smidge slower than at the NHL level, players knocked off of pucks a bit easier, etc.
Aside from that, I have to say Yager certainly seems to get better the more he's played. Same was true in the summer camp. In the early games, he needed to get his legs under him, but once he did, he started being more noticeable. Say what you will about the wipeout, but that was the result of him harassing a defender at the point into coughing up the puck, then he took off on a breakaway. He managed to do that several times, and cashed in on one of the opportunities he created that way. That speaks well of his hockey IQ, and I hold that to be one of the most critical aspects to any prospect or player in the NHL. I'll be curious to see what he can do in preseason games when he's up against some actual NHL players (or even just AHL players).
just to add; a big strength of yager's, that a lot of people can't see is his willingness to put in the work. he is a coach's dream.Got to watch a good chunk of the last prospect game.
Two main impressions:
1. Actually pretty impressive that the prospects quickly picked up on what the coaches wanted them to do for the third game. It was especially noticeable thanks to the Sabres' broadcasters constantly talking about how their coaches only had two days to try to teach them how to play their system
2. Man, did watching that illustrate the difference between raw prospects and NHL quality hockey... so much sloppiness. Passes that would have been received by NHL players (despite not being the best passes to receive), plays picked off because the puck was being moved just a smidge slower than at the NHL level, players knocked off of pucks a bit easier, etc.
Aside from that, I have to say Yager certainly seems to get better the more he's played. Same was true in the summer camp. In the early games, he needed to get his legs under him, but once he did, he started being more noticeable. Say what you will about the wipeout, but that was the result of him harassing a defender at the point into coughing up the puck, then he took off on a breakaway. He managed to do that several times, and cashed in on one of the opportunities he created that way. That speaks well of his hockey IQ, and I hold that to be one of the most critical aspects to any prospect or player in the NHL. I'll be curious to see what he can do in preseason games when he's up against some actual NHL players (or even just AHL players).
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steelcityassault
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Will be there this week a few times so will keep an eye out for these newer guys too..
KrisLetAngry
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Got to watch a good chunk of the last prospect game.
Two main impressions:
1. Actually pretty impressive that the prospects quickly picked up on what the coaches wanted them to do for the third game. It was especially noticeable thanks to the Sabres' broadcasters constantly talking about how their coaches only had two days to try to teach them how to play their system
2. Man, did watching that illustrate the difference between raw prospects and NHL quality hockey... so much sloppiness. Passes that would have been received by NHL players (despite not being the best passes to receive), plays picked off because the puck was being moved just a smidge slower than at the NHL level, players knocked off of pucks a bit easier, etc.
Aside from that, I have to say Yager certainly seems to get better the more he's played. Same was true in the summer camp. In the early games, he needed to get his legs under him, but once he did, he started being more noticeable. Say what you will about the wipeout, but that was the result of him harassing a defender at the point into coughing up the puck, then he took off on a breakaway. He managed to do that several times, and cashed in on one of the opportunities he created that way. That speaks well of his hockey IQ, and I hold that to be one of the most critical aspects to any prospect or player in the NHL. I'll be curious to see what he can do in preseason games when he's up against some actual NHL players (or even just AHL players).
I expect him not to make the team and almost would rather he doesn't. (Unless he plays so well they say you get to play till Guentzel is back in the top 6)
Doesn't burn a year under 9 games.
I want him to have another full season before we start talking about the NHL.
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