What is this team and organization supposed to be good at?
So Keller and Jones are adequate rotation pitchers. Where are the +s that give me any hope going forward? I'm not trying to be too hard on you but this is where we diverge in how we view things. It's the same with the Penguins. "Perfectly adequate for the role" ---> if you add this up across an entire roster you get .500.
Jones could be good, and you're totally wrong about how he was viewed earlier this year. He was a sensation and #1-2 pitcher in this board's eyes. Now he's just a good prospect with potential to be that. I only want to trade him because we have to get hitters that can result in us scoring 5 runs a game, not 2. And he is an attractive asset.
I'm sure this time next year when Chandler has a 4.40 ERA you'll chide anyone for thinking he was supposed to be better too.
If you are making assumptions on what a player is off a debut of 7-8 starts then I don't know what to tell you. There were plenty of people trying to pump the brakes. There are maybe less than 10-15 #1s in the league so I don't know how people would even assume that.