Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[pegcity]

Also says the parameters of the deal are done.

3 roster players to Winnipeg - Vilardi, Iafallo, and another young roster player that played for the Kings + a pick

3 pieces to LA - PLD, they speculate Jansen Harkins because of Wiebe's reporting, and another player/prospect

Seems like it's all down to whether or not they can figure out the contract.

I'm assuming the prospect is Turcotte.

Kings win this trade, if that's the case.

 

[Hunter368]

Pagnotta just said it on WST. My guess on the other LA forward would be Anderson-Dolan.

Trading harkins for him makes some sense I guess if it happened......both could benefit from a change

 

[MardyBum]

This is what I heard this morning. Where did you find it?

Winnipeg Sports Talk has Pagnotta on in person atm. On youtube if you wanna watch.

 

[Hunter368]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

Its not a trade yet, its just talks no trade has happened and lots of moving pieces. Heck big contracts sometimes take weeks or months to work out, how fast do you expect them to go?

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

His season was hardly mediocre.

Another season cut short by injury negates pace but even if we do pace, 50ish points majority after a hot start for a 3rd overall seems pretty damn disappointing if he's the guy penciled in for 2C, especially when the 1C should be the 2C.

I get it as fans we often have blinders but he also only scored 14 goals and again he slowed down before his season got cut short and the big thing I think should be mentioned is that trade very likely led to the reason they drafted a winger 1st overall when Cooly and Wright were right there.
Or they could have traded the 1st and probably got a much better slightly older potentially better player than Dach or Slaf and still had the 13th if they were still gonna trade Romanov.
I'm sorry but neither of those guys likely ever live up to the expectations hockey mad hab fans expect.

 

[tomd]

I'm assuming the prospect is Turcotte.

Kings win this trade, if that's the case.

Turcotte is probably too much of a risk medically at this point. JAD or Spence are more likely options.

 

[kingsfan28]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

His agent is Brisson, Luc best buddy is Brisson [ former agent] . The agent is playing both sides against the middle. He's winning either way.

 

[Guffman]

How are Boston going to be in on PLD? they have 11m in cap space and only 14 players signed.

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Nothing stopping Boston from doing more roster surgery, especially on their defense. Like, they *NEED* a top 6 center or two.

Might be contenders for Scheifele though... seems like LA to Dubois is getting very close now.

 

[Kurrilino]

His starting ask is reported to be 9 million. Probably gets 8.5.

lol

Kempe who signed for 5.8 Mull just had a 42 goal season here in L.A.
This will be a tough sell

 

[MardyBum]

lol

Kempe who signed for 5.8 Mull just had a 42 goal season here in L.A.
This will be a tough sell

He signed that contract before the 42 goal season. Also it is a 4 year deal, and 5.5 million.

 

[HabsAddict]

I hated broccoli and for some reason, my mother made broccoli as a side dish. Being an occasional good boy I promised I would eat my broccoli...but resistance in me was high!

Mom response to my promises...you ain't ate the broccoli until I hear it in your stomach! (More like WMD gas)

There is so much noise and misinformation, no doubt intentional by agents and teams, that I'll wait until the broccoli is eaten....

 

[Kurrilino]

He signed that contract before the 42 goal season. Also it is a 4 year deal, and 5.5 million.

I am aware of that but he signed the contract after scoring 36 goals.
If PLD scores even remotely in that range he can ask for 6 mill.
For 9 mill he better scores 90+ points

 

[pegcity]

Okay so,

To Jets
Harkins
Dubois
Stanley

To Kings
Vilardi
Iafallo
Jarret-Anderson Dolan
Draft Pick (non-first)

This is what we are thinking?

 

[chaser17]

This reeks of leaking that a sign and trade to LA was close just to get Montreal to get back into the game here.

 

[HuGort]

Its not a trade yet, its just talks no trade has happened and lots of moving pieces. Heck big contracts sometimes take weeks or months to work out, how fast do you expect them to go?

Once it's broke, shouldn't take this long. Something wrong. My first guess he won't sign in LA

 

[ffh]

Boston looks like they are out their top 2 centers. Wonder why no rumor of them in the pld sweepstakes

 

[MardyBum]

I am aware of that but he signed the contract after scoring 36 goals.
If PLD scores even remotely in that range he can ask for 6 mill.
For 9 mill he better scores 90+ points

Goals are great. Assists matter too. Kempe had a career high of 54 points in 78 games and is 2 years older than PLD and plays a less important position. Looking like a great contract now too.

Even if PLD only hits 70 points consistently going forward that will be a fair contact with the cap going up, because when he's on he's exactly what Kings fans love. If he hits 90 points it'll be a great contract.

Contracts are going to get f***ing stupid in a few years. GM's have been unable to massively overpay UFA's for a few years now

Once it's broke, shouldn't take this long. Something wrong. My first guess he won't sign in LA

The trade details leaked by some guys, but that had to be figured out first before negotiations were allowed. Once they agree on a trade, then they start negotiating the contract. That's happening now.

Could still not happen, but usually the details don't leak so specifically, just "rumors they are talking" so it seems to be taking longer than normal.

 

[Maukkis]

Okay so,

To Jets
Harkins
Dubois
Stanley

To Kings
Vilardi
Iafallo
Jarret-Anderson Dolan
Draft Pick (non-first)

This is what we are thinking?

Something close to that. Could be Chisholm or Heinola instead of Stanley, could be Kupari instead of JAD, but the framework's there.

I'd imagine that there are Kings' young centermen who are hoping to be in that deal.

 

[MardyBum]

Okay so,

To Jets
Harkins
Dubois
Maybe Stanley

To Kings
Vilardi
Iafallo
Maybe Jarret-Anderson Dolan
Draft Pick (non-first)

This is what we are thinking?

Basically with the two maybes I slipped in

 

[Hunter368]

Once it's broke, shouldn't take this long. Something wrong. My first guess he won't sign in LA

Have you been watching the reports, LA and Jets today is a travel day and weather delays effecting that. Potential major 8 year deals don't get done in 24 hours ever.......no deadline here shortly, if no 1st is involved Wed isn't even a hard deadline. Jets just gave LA access to talk contract today has been reported. Sounds like the trade pieces have been finalized and now its LA talking a contract just started today with PLD. Patience

 

[pegcity]

Boston looks like they are out their top 2 centers. Wonder why no rumor of them in the pld sweepstakes

There have been Scheifele to Boston rumours.

The thing to remember is the Jets will be trading Scheifele only if he does not want to re-sign in Winnipeg. And Winnipeg will want a stop 6 Centre in return.....(to fill the hole)

 

[Guffman]

Mayyybe, I consider trading Dubois for Laine and Roslovic.

 

[JKG33]

Mayyybe, I consider trading Dubois for Laine and Roslovic.

Dubois back to Columbus would be f***ing hilarious, even if he is just a rental there

 

[Richiebottles]

Mayyybe, I consider trading Dubois for Laine and Roslovic.

The trade with LA isn't as close as people think.

See what Lebrun, Basu, Seravalli & Dreger are all saying...

It's possible they can come to an agreement, but as of now they haven't even talked contract.

Also, how often is that full trades leak?

If the trade was done, the insiders would have said 'Here is the deal, it's done pending a contract put in place'.

 

[pegcity]

Okay so,

To Jets
Harkins
Dubois
Gawanke (maybe)

To Kings
Vilardi
Iafallo
Jarret-Anderson Dolan

Sounds like this with a draft pick going one way or the other.