Speculation: Pierre-Luc Dubois Mega thread. (LAK frontrunner, but Montreal has circled back)

[Thechozen1]

I think we could do better by just trading him as a rental..

Probably end up with a pick in the 20-28 range

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Seravalli mentioned that Ottawa, Detroit and even Columbus had interest/has interest in PLD...

 

[Lockin17]

For those Habs fans hoping that they don't get Dubois...

When is the last time the Habs actually drafted a C as good as him? Plekanec in 2001, maybe. They also whiffed on two no. 3 draft picks at C in a few years (KK, Galchenyuk).

Are we going to wait another 10 years before they actually draft another good one?

It's the price to pay the reason we don't want him,
9 mil a year ?? no
Ghule or Dach envolve is this trade ? no

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

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During the show it honestly felt like that was a mistake, as the co-host, or whomever the other guy is made a joke about it right away

 

[Lockin17]

Getting married to a guy with already two failed marriages is that you Ross Geller ?

Third time is a charm

 

[Sasha Orlov]

For those Habs fans hoping that they don't get Dubois...

When is the last time the Habs actually drafted a C as good as him? Plekanec in 2001, maybe. They also whiffed on two no. 3 draft picks at C in a few years (KK, Galchenyuk).

Are we going to wait another 10 years before they actually draft another good one?

This is an insanely bad argument

 

[HuGort]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

It took Bergevin two weeks to trade Fournier and Tinordi for Scott and Chaput, so a deal of this magnitude would take him like 2 decades. He's probably asking Blake to explain everything to him slowing it down.

 

[Not The One]

This is an insanely bad argument

Yes better keep playing sucky hockey to draft mediocre players who mostly wont work out.

 

[JianYang]

I don't like the idea of a potential bidding war for Dubois. I'm already cautious of his baggage, and wondering if this chunk of cap space should be locked into him, let alone the other assets it would take.

 

[pegcity]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

Maybe Montreal increased their offer

 

[SCP Guy]

Chevy doing what Chevy does… waits the the last possible second to pull the trigger…. Just in case the Oilers offer up McDavid…

Will prob end up being the deal they agreed two weeks ago lol

 

[Gil Gunderson]

For those Habs fans hoping that they don't get Dubois...

When is the last time the Habs actually drafted a C as good as him? Plekanec in 2001, maybe. They also whiffed on two no. 3 draft picks at C in a few years (KK, Galchenyuk).

Are we going to wait another 10 years before they actually draft another good one?

Dubois isn't THAT good dude. He's a pretty good 2nd line centre in the modern NHL.

 

[Guffman]

Boston cleared some room and very likely need some top 6 centers. Perhaps they will finally get in on the Dubois sweepstakes? Boston was my original team where I thought Dubois would get traded to.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

He's worth $9M if your team needs a center, based on a bunch of recent deals. If you don't need a center, it likely doesn't make sense to spend that much though.

I keep hearing 9+ and I'm baffled as to why?
He's got a career high of 63 points and I know JT Miller is 5 years older but since he's come here and got top 6 and pp time like PLD gets
He's had 72 in 69, 46 in 53, 99 in 80 and 80 in 81 while also being a leader who despite BS was the real leader of the team and he signed for 8 million and people think it's somehow a negative value contract.

Again I get the age gap but if he had been given the same opportunity before coming here he likely has several more high- end seasons.

If PLD was unable to do it already what makes people think he will going forward?

Quinn Hughes makes 7 a year and already had two seasons out of 4 that best PLD's high.

What am I missing that a decent 2C gets 9 million?
That's more than Stutzle, Jack, Nico, etc. Yes he's giving up more ufa years than them and is younger than JT but I bet he out scores PLD for at least the next 5 years.

 

[HabzSauce]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

This is chychrun trade vibes all over again for me.

 

[MardyBum]

Pagnotta just said they're supposed to have talks today about the contract, more than just "oh 8x8 and it's done". Bonuses, what kind of NMC/NTC once he hits UFA years, etc.

Edit : a Winnipeg sports show is in Nashville talking to him in person.

 

[sansabri]

gonna be 17 trades that go through before Chevy lets a team talk to Dubois

 

[MardyBum]

Also says the parameters of the deal are done.

3 roster players to Winnipeg - Vilardi, Iafallo, and another young roster player that played for the Kings + a pick

3 pieces to LA - PLD, they speculate Jansen Harkins because of Wiebe's reporting, and another player/prospect

Seems like it's all down to whether or not they can figure out the contract.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I keep hearing 9+ and I'm baffled as to why?
He's got a career high of 63 points and I know JT Miller is 5 years older but since he's come here and got top 6 and pp time like PLD gets
He's had 72 in 69, 46 in 53, 99 in 80 and 80 in 81 while also being a leader who despite BS was the real leader of the team and he signed for 8 million and people think it's somehow a negative value contract.

Again I get the age gap but if he had been given the same opportunity before coming here he likely has several more high- end seasons.

If PLD was unable to do it already what makes people think he will going forward?

Quinn Hughes makes 7 a year and already had two seasons out of 4 that best PLD's high.

What am I missing that a decent 2C gets 9 million?
That's more than Stutzle, Jack, Nico, etc. Yes he's giving up more ufa years than them and is younger than JT but I bet he out scores PLD for at least the next 5 years.

You need to compare more than points -- in no world should Stutzle or Jack Hughes be brought up to compare contracts since we're talking UFA years.

I'd dig deeper into the recent contracts and actually find ones in a comparable situation.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Also says the parameters of the deal are done.

3 roster players to Winnipeg - Vilardi, Iafallo, and another young roster player that played for the Kings + a pick

3 pieces to LA - PLD, they speculate Jansen Harkins because of Wiebe's reporting, and another player/prospect

Seems like it's all down to whether or not they can figure out the contract.

This is what I heard this morning. Where did you find it?

 

[Hunter368]

Pagnotta just said they're supposed to have talks today about the contract, more than just "oh 8x8 and it's done". Bonuses, what kind of NMC/NTC once he hits UFA years, etc.

Edit : a Winnipeg sports show is in Nashville talking to him in person.

Thats great news, glad to see contract talks are progressing nicely so far

 

[tbcwpg]

This is what I heard this morning. Where did you find it?

Pagnotta just said it on WST. My guess on the other LA forward would be Anderson-Dolan.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Boston cleared some room and very likely need some top 6 centers. Perhaps they will finally get in on the Dubois sweepstakes? Boston was my original team where I thought Dubois would get traded to.

How are Boston going to be in on PLD? they have 11m in cap space and only 14 players signed.

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[howkie]

Definitely something wrong with this trade. Been two days since it broke. Sounds like PLD changed his mind on sign in LA. Or this is all a ploy by his agent

1 day is travel day, WInnipeg does not have an airport, so the busride from Manitoba to Nashville takes a while...