Phoenix XXIV: How many twists does the scriptwriter have left?

[NHLfan4life]

I still think it's going to go through but barely. I also think that GI, the NHL and the City of Glendale are working pretty much all day and night on this to come to a resolution to keep them here.


I named my son after Jeremy Roenick when he was sent here from the 'Hawks. Found out my wife was pregnant with my second son the very night the Blues beat the 'Yotes in the first round of the playoffs coming back from a 3-1 series deficit. The past 15 years of my life's milestones can be associated with Coyotes games and outings. I have both of my sons so interested in hockey, I can't imagine life without it. I know this has nothing to do with the Business of Hockey, more like the passion for hockey.

I think I speak for everyone on both sides, I certainly hope this ends next week. Somehow I don't think so...

I'm going to check out of this for a while. After my trip to WestGate today, I realized I'm a little too emotionally involved in this whole thing.

 

[kdb209]

I had a long, long, long day. Recap?

OK.

12-08-2008 Hockey in The Desert (Phoenix franchise and finance/business matters)
02-04-2009 Hockey in the Desert II (Phoenix Coyotes franchise and business matters)

05-05-2009 Balsillie puts in $212.5 mil offer for the Coyotes
05-07-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part II
05-18-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part III
05-22-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part IV
06-03-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part V
06-09-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VI
06-12-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VII: I'm just waitin' on a judge
06-16-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VIII: It's dead, Jim
06-24-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part IX: 'Dorf on Hockey
07-25-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part X: The Truth? You Can't Handle The Truth!
08-03-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XI: A Fistful of Dollars?
08-07-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XII: For a Few Dollars More
08-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIII: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
08-21-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIV: The Wrath of Baum
08-27-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XV - SITREP: SNAFU
09-02-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVI: Barbarian at the Gate
09-08-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVII: Wake Me Up When September Ends
09-10-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVIII: Is that a pale horse in the distance?
09-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy Part XIX: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Baum
09-21-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XX: There Will Be Baum
09-28-2009Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXI: 2009 -- A Sports Odyssey
10-26-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXII: Long and winding road

Followed up by the ever popular:

11-24-2009 Keeping up with potential owners for NHL Phoenix Coyotes (UPD: Ice Edge signs LOI)
03-14-2010 Part II. Potential owners of NHL's Phoenix Coyotes
03-26-2010 Part III. Prospective Owners - Phoenix Coyotes (UPD Lease vote 4/13; IEH signs MOU)
04-10-2010 Part IV Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy; UPD COG approves Reinsdorf MOU, not IEH MOU
05-02-2010 Part V Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy UPD Reinsdorf out? IEH back in? else Winnipeg?
05-11-2010 Part VI Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy
05-23-2010 Part VII Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy
06-07-2010 Part VIII: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankrtuptcy
06-07-2010 Part VIII: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankrtuptcy
06-22-2010 Part IX: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankruptcy UPD: Pres Moss fired 6/30 with IEH input
07-26-2010 Part X: Phoenix Coyotes - Between Scylla and Charybdis
08-27-2010 Part XI: Phoenix Coyotes -- Greetings, Starfighter, You have been selected ...
09-16-2010 Part XII: Phx Coyotes - Still haven't found what I'm looking for
10-12-2010 Part XIII: Phoenix Coyotes - The Final Cut?
10-27-2010 Part XIV: Phoenix Coyotes - To Infinity And Beyond....
12-05-2010 Part XV: Phoenix - the battle of evermore
12-14-2010 Part XVI: Phoenix -- Money for Nothing
12-20-2010 Part XVII: Phoenix -- Thread Title Available For Lease
01-09-2011 Part XVIII: Phoenix -- Imminence Front
01-24-2011 Phoenix XIXth: Nervous Breakdown
02-02-2011 Phoenix XX: Two weeks
02-11-2011 Phoenix XXI: When will then be now?
02-22-2011 Phoenix XXII: It's Now or Never
02-28-2011 Phoenix XXIII - Bond: The Phoenix Project
03-03-2011 Phoenix XXIV: How many twists does the scriptwriter have left?

- but how will the story end:

 

[Confucius]

Well eventually, I guess everybody will try and sue Moyes........... again

 

[WpgJets]

I still think it's going to go through but barely. I also think that GI, the NHL and the City of Glendale are working pretty much all day and night on this to come to a resolution to keep them here.


I named my son after Jeremy Roenick when he was sent here from the 'Hawks. Found out my wife was pregnant with my second son the very night the Blues beat the 'Yotes in the first round of the playoffs coming back from a 3-1 series deficit. The past 15 years of my life's milestones can be associated with Coyotes games and outings. I have both of my sons so interested in hockey, I can't imagine life without it. I know this has nothing to do with the Business of Hockey, more like the passion for hockey.

I think I speak for everyone on both sides, I certainly hope this ends next week. Somehow I don't think so...

I'm going to check out of this for a while. After my trip to WestGate today, I realized I'm a little too emotionally involved in this whole thing.

When the booster clubs did their speech it was basically a flake cause it gave a false sense of hope. Hockey won't die in Arizona for kids that have the passion for the sport, yes the coyotes will probably leave but i don't think its the end of hockey. Glendale may end up getting an AHL franchise down the road.

In my honest opinion, the booster clubs did more harm then good.

 

[MaskedSonja]

OK - but how will the story end:

Adding the prequel:

12-08-2008 Hockey in The Desert (Phoenix franchise and finance/business matters)
02-04-2009 Hockey in the Desert II (Phoenix Coyotes franchise and business matters)

05-05-2009 Balsillie puts in $212.5 mil offer for the Coyotes
05-07-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part II
05-18-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part III
05-22-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part IV
06-03-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part V
06-09-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VI
06-12-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VII: I'm just waitin' on a judge
06-16-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VIII: It's dead, Jim
06-24-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part IX: 'Dorf on Hockey
07-25-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part X: The Truth? You Can't Handle The Truth!
08-03-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XI: A Fistful of Dollars?
08-07-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XII: For a Few Dollars More
08-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIII: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
08-21-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIV: The Wrath of Baum
08-27-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XV - SITREP: SNAFU
09-02-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVI: Barbarian at the Gate
09-08-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVII: Wake Me Up When September Ends
09-10-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVIII: Is that a pale horse in the distance?
09-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy Part XIX: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Baum
09-21-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XX: There Will Be Baum
09-28-2009Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXI: 2009 -- A Sports Odyssey
10-26-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXII: Long and winding road

Followed up by the ever popular:

11-24-2009 Keeping up with potential owners for NHL Phoenix Coyotes (UPD: Ice Edge signs LOI)
03-14-2010 Part II. Potential owners of NHL's Phoenix Coyotes
03-26-2010 Part III. Prospective Owners - Phoenix Coyotes (UPD Lease vote 4/13; IEH signs MOU)
04-10-2010 Part IV Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy; UPD COG approves Reinsdorf MOU, not IEH MOU
05-02-2010 Part V Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy UPD Reinsdorf out? IEH back in? else Winnipeg?
05-11-2010 Part VI Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy
05-23-2010 Part VII Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy
06-07-2010 Part VIII: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankrtuptcy
06-07-2010 Part VIII: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankrtuptcy
06-22-2010 Part IX: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankruptcy UPD: Pres Moss fired 6/30 with IEH input
07-26-2010 Part X: Phoenix Coyotes - Between Scylla and Charybdis
08-27-2010 Part XI: Phoenix Coyotes -- Greetings, Starfighter, You have been selected ...
09-16-2010 Part XII: Phx Coyotes - Still haven't found what I'm looking for
10-12-2010 Part XIII: Phoenix Coyotes - The Final Cut?
10-27-2010 Part XIV: Phoenix Coyotes - To Infinity And Beyond....
12-05-2010 Part XV: Phoenix - the battle of evermore
12-14-2010 Part XVI: Phoenix -- Money for Nothing
12-20-2010 Part XVII: Phoenix -- Thread Title Available For Lease
01-09-2011 Part XVIII: Phoenix -- Imminence Front
01-24-2011 Phoenix XIXth: Nervous Breakdown
02-02-2011 Phoenix XX: Two weeks
02-11-2011 Phoenix XXI: When will then be now?
02-22-2011 Phoenix XXII: It's Now or Never
02-28-2011 Phoenix XXIII - Bond: The Phoenix Project
03-03-2011 Phoenix XXIV: How many twists does the scriptwriter have left?

Nevermind lol

 

[XX]

23,000 posts, almost 2 years. No resolution.

 

[TerminatorBlue]

Geno Reda -

What about the skeptic who says this is yet another example of somebody crying wolf and just another way to negotiate there way back into Phoenix for more dollars there.

I'm a skeptic.

 

[PitbulI]

I still think the NHL has a plan B. They'll help Glendale finance 100 million to give to Hullsizer.

 

[kdb209]

23,000 posts, almost 2 years. No resolution.

Which was why I almost included the BSG ending:

 

[LadyStanley]

Mod note: There should be NO discussion of relocation in the Phoenix until and if it comes to pass. (There are other threads where discussion of the "Jetsmeter" is acceptable.)

 

[obsenssive*]

uuhhh but isn't that basically the entire issue?

 

[ranold26]

I still think the NHL has a plan B. They'll help Glendale finance 100 million to give to Hullsizer.

I doubt the BoG would approve of that, let alone legally could.

 

[Brodie]

if it comes to pass, the NHL will shortlist Glendale for an expansion team and we'll see them and Quebec in the league within a decade.

 

[Confucius]

I doubt the BoG would approve of that, let alone legally could.

I agree there are a few teams bleeding that could use some help. The league probably have to help all next.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I still think the NHL has a plan B. They'll help Glendale finance 100 million to give to Hullsizer.

If the dealings now are legally dicey, I can't imagine that the NHL wading into those waters makes it any less so.

 

[obsenssive*]

I still think it's going to go through but barely. I also think that GI, the NHL and the City of Glendale are working pretty much all day and night on this to come to a resolution to keep them here.


I named my son after Jeremy Roenick when he was sent here from the 'Hawks. Found out my wife was pregnant with my second son the very night the Blues beat the 'Yotes in the first round of the playoffs coming back from a 3-1 series deficit. The past 15 years of my life's milestones can be associated with Coyotes games and outings. I have both of my sons so interested in hockey, I can't imagine life without it. I know this has nothing to do with the Business of Hockey, more like the passion for hockey.

I think I speak for everyone on both sides, I certainly hope this ends next week. Somehow I don't think so...

I'm going to check out of this for a while. After my trip to WestGate today, I realized I'm a little too emotionally involved in this whole thing.

would you prefer to see the jets/yotes franchise flourish or continue to be in a miserable state? there's a point where a true yotes fan should realize it's best to let them go to where they will get the appreciation they deserve. emotions aren't logical as you said.

 

[davemac1313]

G&M's take on the situation

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...titute-ready-to-nuke-glendale/article1929366/

 

[Brodie]

after spending my entire time on HF following this, my work schedule is going to prevent me from being here when it ends! Lame.

 

[Fourier]

Mayor Scruggs has publicly stated that the city has no Plan B if the Coyotes leave.

GHOST

What was plan A?

 

[Roughneck]

after spending my entire time on HF following this, my work schedule is going to prevent me from being here when it ends! Lame.

Ends? Surely you jest.

 

[Jet]

I still think the NHL has a plan B. They'll help Glendale finance 100 million to give to Hullsizer.

Still open to lawsuit from GWI, and then implicating NHL? Not going to happen.

 

[Crazy_Ike]

I still think it's going to go through but barely. I also think that GI, the NHL and the City of Glendale are working pretty much all day and night on this to come to a resolution to keep them here.

I think it's past that. IMO, the NHL has told the city what it needs to make the market successful under the current poisoned situation. This base is so slanted that Glendale can't actually meet it without getting sued by GWI. The league isn't obligated to negotiate any further, and contrary to what many think or believe, the league won't force the team to stay in a situation where failure is inevitable. If it's not getting what it needs to survive there now, in the post-Moyes' attempted abortion setting, it will pull stakes. The power to do this was won in bankruptcy and they fully intend to use it to its maximum potential.

From the league's standpoint, the negotiating is done. In fact, they are more likely to demand MORE concessions than they are to compromise on what they've already asked for.

The league hasn't really been an active participant since they found the owner willing to front their demands. It's all about the city and the watchdog.

GWI must tread very carefully lest they find themselves on the wrong end of accusations of costing the city a lot of money and jobs. Glendale currently has no winning outcomes left, just bad and worse options. The league? Already has everything they need; they won this when Baum handed them the keys. [Mod: deleted ]. This has been drawn out probably far longer than the league would have liked, but virtually every outcome in it has worked in their favor.

 

[RAgIn]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...conference-on-value-of-Coyotes-117321523.html

added Lawless video on TSN

Lawless seems pretty certain that the end game is days away from happening. Wow. Never thought I'd see the day.

 

[Killion]

What was plan A?

.....but virtually every outcome in it has worked in their favor.

Absolutely. Bettman & the NHL have totally finessed this situation from the get-go.

 

[Crazy_Ike]

Absolutely. Bettman & the NHL have totally finessed this situation from the get-go.

It has been a very, very impressive display. From the bankruptcy filing (the only thing the league had no legal ability to prevent) until now, the league has managed to give its constitution ironclad legal support, fortified its right to choose its own members, established favorable precedent for any owner foolish enough to try bankruptcy again, taken total control of one of its franchises including all negotiating power on its behalf, removed a terrible lease, given itself a backup plan that guarantees it gets back its investment regardless of outcome, and established a no-lose situation (for the league) with the team whether it leaves or stays.

It has been sheer genius, if people look at it objectively.

But, of course, because, well, *Canadian sports media*, somehow the fact the team wasn't given to Balsillie or moved to Canada immediately means it has been a "fiasco".