Apoplectic Habs Fan
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Player Discussion Phillip Danault: What's My Line Edition
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angusyoung
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Do you have to ask? And no, it's not mon beau Lars.Who is the pretty boy and who's not?
angusyoung
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You said Danault isn't scoring because of the way he's being used, which is a legitimate point.
The irony is you don't apply that same argument to Kotkaniemi.
To me...one would be more effective if he played a tad less (Danault), while the other would benefit from increased responsibilities/opportunities (Kotkaniemi) IMO.
We are 20+ games into the year...it hasn't even been considered and Danault is sitting on 0 goals - granted, he contributes in other areas, but this is a pretty big sample.
KK is getting soft minutes man...
I would actually want a switch to happen so that people can finally stop spewing bs.
That's a good way to ensure he plays soft too.
I'm a big fan of challenging players, especially your high draft picks.
I don't believe in sheltering players...
What's the worse that could happen?
What? The Habs will start ...losing games?
KK is not freaking McDavid man! Calm your tits jesuuuus
Your sarcasm is out of place because this team is trying to compete.
Some of you seem to live in another dimension....
This organization is going for it! They're not rebuilding like the sens with Tkasuck as their best forward....
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The worse that can happen is KK losing his confidence. How many times in the past we complained we trow a player into a role he is not ready for? KK is young, so is Suzuki. Despite the progress they can show, they are facing heavy competition. You want him to face regular shift Matthews, McDavid and Scheifele? If that happen, he will be burned alive. Then he will lose his confidence and it can affect his future. Beleive me, Danault can face that humiliating situation of losing because he is older and he doesn't figure in any great plan for the future of the team. If you beleive KK can beat Matthews right now let me say that I totally disagree with you and I am polite, lol. Suzuki is already facing tough situation, having two young kids into that situation is already a mistake, just my opinion.
So because I want Kotkaniemi challenged...it means I think he's McDavid?
The Habs challenge Suzuki and I love that, I don't care that he's been a bit sluggish the last 10 games or so...I think it's great they keep going back to him because I think it will pay off in the long run.
Why can't that apply for Kotkaniemi?
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There's no sarcasm...and if the team really wanted to compete.
They wouldn't rely on a player who hasn't scored a goal against an NHL goalie in over 1yr to shoulder as much responsibility as he does.
They're not trying to compete, they're trying not to lose.
A difference of opinion...that's all it is.
They're going for it?
Maybe ..but they're half-assing it like they always have.
They do it every night with Danault or Weber or Chiarot..
Yes...yes I do.
Or...orrrr
They'll become better players because of it.
How is it you think Danault got to where he is today?
It's not the sole responsibility of a SINGLE player to "beat" another one.
So that's irrelevsnt to me.
I'm sick and tired of seeing a low ceiling, capable 2 way players, have to play 18+ mins a night to shadow other teams top lines.
I've been watching this same recipe since Joe Juneau did it...then it was Plekanec...now it's Danault.
S'tassez la.
I sincerely usually enjoy your posts but here we go again...
I have no idea why you underestimate the defensive side of the game so much.
KK is getting soft minutes and he's not killing it... you think he's going to get better with tougher minutes? I mean it's just illogical
Thanks...but I'm trying to keep this discussion at level and you keep trying to drag it into shit slinging contest.
I just have a different opinion...not sure why you feel the need to belittle it constantly. But for now I'll entertain it.
I don't...I just don't think it's the entire responsibility of ONE player.
Then send him down to Laval so he can get some meaningful minutes.
I don't believe in sheltering...at least not for your high draft picks.
Sheltering is for guys like Corey Perry who are at the end of the line.
Right now the organization's focus with Kotkaniemi should be getting him to a place where in 2yrs, they can play him against anyone.
They're not going to get him there by sheltering him.
salbutera
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It can’t be one extreme or the other, it’s a process which needs to be managed, and a Dom Dom seems to be managing it. If KK continues to show growth he’ll get more TOI & more responsibility
Soft minutes in NHL is still x2 better than top minutes in AHL!
They're developing him just fine!
He's not ready to face Matthews and McDavid all the time ...
I wonder how great our top 6 center plays tonight.
Will he ever score again?
Will he ever score again?
salbutera
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Flower didn’t take off till he was 23...the process KK is going through is the norm vs outlier
Now compare the team Lafleur broke in with and the one Kotkaniemi has been on the last 3yrs.
If the team had been successful the last couple of years...it would be a different story.
Then I'd agree with Kotkaniemi biding his time.
But that's not the case.
The Nightman
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Too true. It feels like ground hog day. I remember using the same arguments against Plekanec before he signed that dumb 2 year contract at 6 million per.
Just like how Plekanec should have been traded when his contract was expiring in a year and his value was high after his 60 point season, we should have sold high on Danault when it was clear what his ceiling was (no matter how much he believes he has another "gear"). Now he's most probably gone for nothing, but at least he didn't get signed unlike Plekanec, not to Bergy's credit though.
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