Player Discussion Phillip Danault - The Centermania Edition

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Suzuki is our 1C, of the future

It can take one year, it can't take two years or it can take 3 years before saying Suzuki has become a better center than Danault. Not done yet so don't be too sure about your opinion/expectation.

 

[HabsDood]

It can take one year, it can't take two years or it can take 3 years before saying Suzuki has become a better center than Danault. Not done yet so don't be too sure about your opinion/expectation.

He might never be

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

But Danault faces 15% more better lines in general, over a year season. And faces best pairing D 15% plus over a season, right?

In general he will face better opponents. But he gets help, Suzuki and Domi also face tough match up.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

He might never be

Even 4-5 years, we need to play the great Danault with the best wingers or we risk to miss the playoff for the first time since MB took over.

 

[Mrb1p]

But Danault faces 15% more better lines in general, over a year season. And faces best pairing D 15% plus over a season, right?

Where is the 15% from ? Even strength ice-time is fluid and there's no set numbers available. Danault and Suzuki probably face the same level of talent over a season, if Suzuki plays top 6 for the whole year.

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

Actually 20th most TOTAL assists and 29th last year.

That stat includes his relative weakness on PP.

He's 9th in ES assists this year. And when you mention the guys ahead of him, certain people then complain that he is being compared to stars. Ridiculous.

Just give it up, honestly you bring good points but the team is a failure and Danault's usage right in the middle of it. When Danault is slumping he should be demoted, especially during our multiple losing streaks, I bet any of our centers end up in the + with Tatar and Gallagher on their wings.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Where is the 15% from ? Even strength ice-time is fluid and there's no set numbers available. Danault and Suzuki probably face the same level of talent over a season, if Suzuki plays top 6 for the whole year.

Read again your book of nhl hockey. 15% better opposition is a conservative number, it's more than that.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He might never be

True, I did not think bout this eventuality.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Just give it up, honestly you bring good points but the team is a failure and Danault's usage right in the middle of it. When Danault is slumping he should be demoted, especially during our multiple losing streaks, I bet any of our centers end up in the + with Tatar and Gallagher on their wings.

The problems of the Canadiens are everywhere and not espacially the Danault's line. There is a ton of bad players if you look elsewhere of Danault. If all the centers of the Habs were equal of Danault this team would make the PO.

The main problem of the Habs is the bad defence, followed by the non existant second goalie, and the so and so 2nd to 4th line. Lehkonen playing top 6-top 9 will end up season with 9 goals and 30 pts. We have only 3 defensemen, the rest is crap, etc. Danault would be perfect behind a real first center but he does a decent job with his wingers, we call that chemistry. What other line have chemistry in the Habs?

 

[HabsDood]

True, I did not think bout this eventuality.

Just mm lately, you know, looking at all these lost.. mm talents, we're going nowhere actually..

 

[BaseballCoach]

Just give it up, honestly you bring good points but the team is a failure and Danault's usage right in the middle of it. When Danault is slumping he should be demoted, especially during our multiple losing streaks, I bet any of our centers end up in the + with Tatar and Gallagher on their wings.

Danault isn't holding anyone back. Last year, when Domi was hotter, he played more minutes at ES and PP than Danault.

Unfortunately, we are missing two more top-6 wingers, some stronger D and better goaltending.

If we had to build from within, without MAJOR trades, we would have to hope Romanov can become a top-4 D, and Mete-Fleury a solid 5/6. Caufield would have to be able to score at the NHL level, and KK ready to become a 60 point player within two years.

The following group should do better, while the youngsters including Domi, develop.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Kovalchuk-Domi-Suzuki
Poehling-Kotkaniemi-Caufield
Lehkonen-Evans-Armia

Chiarot-Weber
Romanov-Petry
Mete-Fleury

Drouin and Byron would be moved for more picks and prospects
Kulak would be 7th D

 

[Monsieur Miz]

How is Poehling worthy of playing on a 3rd line in the NHL right now.

He filled a jersey alright this year.

 

[Mrb1p]

Just give it up, honestly you bring good points but the team is a failure and Danault's usage right in the middle of it. When Danault is slumping he should be demoted, especially during our multiple losing streaks, I bet any of our centers end up in the + with Tatar and Gallagher on their wings.

This is true.

The only time Gallys line were negatives were 17/18 and 15/16, hes just one of the best play driver in hockey.

 

[BaseballCoach]

How is Poehling worthy of playing on a 3rd line in the NHL right now.

He filled a jersey alright this year.

It's really for another year away I think. Caufield may need a year too. That lineup is a goal to reach, but I understand how having Kovalchuk there as a talent stopgap could have made you think otherwise.

I'm a bit conflicted, LOL

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

This is true.

The only time Gallys line were negatives were 17/18 and 15/16, hes just one of the best play driver in hockey.

Id like to see him with Domi just once lol. Cant hurt us at this point, but Danault being cemented there is the problem, not Danault himself.

 

[Mrb1p]

Id like to see him with Domi just once lol. Cant hurt us at this point, but Danault being cemented there is the problem, not Danault himself.

Yes, and to top it all off, Domi amd Gallagher seemed to be made for each other. Theyd just need a bigger LW to play with them.

 

[Big Empty]

Danault is getting McDavid money.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Lmfao. Article compares a pure playmaker with a career high of 13G who plays with two solid goal scoring wingers to the TRIGGERMEN on other team's top lines (Stamkos, Pastrnak, Kucherov) on the basis of 5v5 assists.

Like yeah fantastic, great, awesome, Danault has 2 more 5v5 asssists than Pastrnak. But Pastrnak has THIRTY FIVE MORE GOALS. Pastrnak has two less goals this season than Danault does in his entire career!

 

[ECWHSWI]

Danault is getting McDavid money.

8M$ Center.

 

[JoelWarlord]

This is true.

The only time Gallys line were negatives were 17/18 and 15/16, hes just one of the best play driver in hockey.

Yeah always makes me laugh when people act like the Tatar Danault line unlocked some new goal scoring element from Gallagher. Dude had 31 on that dogshit 17-18 team playing with Hudon and the corpse of Tomas Plekanec.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Yes, and to top it all off, Domi amd Gallagher seemed to be made for each other. Theyd just need a bigger LW to play with them.

Kovalchuk!

 

[BaseballCoach]

Suzuki is our 1C, of the future

Maybe, but I think he might more likely be our 2C or 2RW or even 1RW.

I might try this for one year while Caufield learns the pro game in Laval:

Kovalchuk-Domi-Suzuki
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen

 

[ECWHSWI]

Maybe, but I think he might more likely be our 2C or 2RW or even 1RW.

I might try this for one year while Caufield learns the pro game in Laval:

Kovalchuk-Domi-Suzuki
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Drouin-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen

sure, drafted as C, played his whole Jr at C, played most of his 1st pro year at C but hey! let's put him at wing for one year cause another player is not ready yet...

 

[DXStriker]

July is going to be interesting .
How much does Danault along with Tatar, Petry and Gallagher all end up with .

Pageau Contract seems to be a comparison for Danault but if articles keep coming out comparing him to McDavid

 

[BaseballCoach]

sure, drafted as C, played his whole Jr at C, played most of his 1st pro year at C but hey! let's put him at wing for one year cause another player is not ready yet...

Suzuki played some of his Junior at RW. And the player I meant to bring in for one year while Caufield is in Laval was Kovalchuk.

Finally, the Suzuki-Domi-Kovalchuk line is kind of malleable. On right side draws, it is Domi-Suzuki-Kovalchuk, and moving up ice, any of the three can carry the puck.

The point is to have Suzuki play on a top two line, the position matters less.