Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 (2023 Edition)

[Rebels57]

True. The hate tier goes as follows

Mets Braves
Dodgers
Red Sox Astros

Replace Red Sox with Nationals and thats mine

 

[DancingPanther]

Replace Red Sox with Nationals and thats mine

For me it's the Boston effect more so than hating the Sox per se

 

[ajgoal]

I have no feelings when it comes to the Dodgers. Except when it comes to this.

 

[Halladay]

Mookie/Freddie/Ohtani. Two of them will be inner circle hall of famers and Freddie will make it to Cooperstown as well.

 

[Flybynite]

At full health I would have given him 15yrs/750M. This contract is even more bonkers.

Depending on how the deferred money is this might actually be more like 10/$600m or even less.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

What the actual f***

Probably loses half to federal and Cali taxes. But still

Todd the Fat Sprocket at it again Just destroying economies across sports.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Mookie/Freddie/Ohtani. Two of them will be inner circle hall of famers and Freddie will make it to Cooperstown as well.

They are all very likeable, too. At least they aren't Mets, that's what the non-New York world can agree about.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

The flip side of Ohtani is if he gets hurt you lose a top of the rotation pitcher and a great hitter. He better hope he stays healthy or he’ll be a scapegoat, I’d think. An injury would leave 2 massive holes in the lineup and an obnoxious salary being used

 

[wankstifier]

The flip side of Ohtani is if he gets hurt you lose a top of the rotation pitcher and a great hitter. He better hope he stays healthy or he’ll be a scapegoat, I’d think. An injury would leave 2 massive holes in the lineup and an obnoxious salary being used

Salary deferral should allow the team to spend on fielding a competitive team if Ohtani isn’t as good as hoped. And, as mentioned, the Dodgers have a track record of winning without spending much on free agents. They’ve probably got the best scouting and analytics teams in baseball

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Salary deferral should allow the team to spend on fielding a competitive team if Ohtani isn’t as good as hoped. And, as mentioned, the Dodgers have a track record of winning without spending much on free agents. They’ve probably got the best scouting and analytics teams in baseball

I haven’t looked into it but what’s the deal with the deferral and why aren’t more contracts structured that way to field more competitive teams?

 

[wankstifier]

I haven’t looked into it but what’s the deal with the deferral and why aren’t more contracts structured that way to field more competitive teams?

My assumption is that most teams can’t afford or are unwilling to pay players years after they’ve retired

 

[wankstifier]

Can Harper's contract be restructured? Maybe tack on another $100MM over another 10-12 years to bring his effective salary closer to $15MM? Would address Harper's desire to be a lifelong Phillie and reduce luxury tax concerns.

 

[Flybynite]

nm

 

[dragonoffrost]

They will just get more money in their pockets from the ones that spend and revenue sharing.

Criminals.

I feel attacked...

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Ok, that qualified as unprecedented. Jeez.

 

[Chinatown88]

I'm all for manipulating the system to your advantage but damn every other team better do the same thing if this is the new standard.

 

[DancingPanther]

Great now they'll still be in on every big name free agent or trade. f***ing assholes

This will put Bonilla day to shame. I hope it bites them so f***ing hard down the line. Sleazy contract

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I'm all for manipulating the system to your advantage but damn every other team better do the same thing if this is the new standard.

That is quite the trick.

 

[DancingPanther]

That is quite the trick.

What?

 

[Tripod]

That type of contract just should not be allowed. It will kill all the smaller market more than it already does.

Then watch, at the end if the deal, he will get "paid", retire, then "buy" part ownership of the Dodgers.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I'm all for manipulating the system to your advantage but damn every other team better do the same thing if this is the new standard.

Fat Todd tries to game the system in football, too. He's poison.

EDIT: Never trust a big butt and a smile.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

EDIT: Never trust a big butt and a smile.

This is the one broad area of life where you and I are completely incompatible and could get into a huge, violent argument if we let ourselves I can hardly explain it without starting the argument

 

[Jack Straw]

How does this impact the Dodgers’ luxury tax situation? Does the entire $70 million count or just the non-deferred part?

Edit: So the answer to that is no, the entire 70 million does not count. Only about 46 million.

 

[DancingPanther]

I get everything else now but how is he getting the present value of 41M?

How does this impact the Dodgers’ luxury tax situation? Does the entire $70 million count or just the non-deferred part?

43.7M is the CBT hit

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Are you saying you like a big fat caboose?

Mods, I'd like to report that Flyguy3911 has hijacked Jojo's account.