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Flybynite said:

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Bryce Harper is Japanese. Did you not know?

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LFG!
 
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I’m only including this link for sourcing purposes: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/art...campaign=curbed.socialflow&utm_content=curbed

This is a wild section:

“Listen, that’s their job to be the gatekeeper,” Cohen said. “I’ve got to exist in an ecosystem that has its own culture and ways of doing things, and I am not here to be a sand in the clam. I’m here to work with them and help them think about the future of baseball.” He confirmed the word I had heard around the baseball industry: that he had offered his fellow owners assurances before the vote that he was committed to controlling players’ salaries.

“I have done that,” Cohen said. “And I have followed all the rules.”
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Soto seems like a complicated fit on the Phillies. I'd want to send off one of Schwarber or Castellanos. They're probably going to lose those trades. And, I feel like they'd have to pay more for pitching to replace whatever they're giving the Padres.

Really curious about what it'd take, though.
 
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i dont want Soto. I dont want anyone from the Padres. The Padres have bad juju. Soto is a selfcentered actor. His defense (through my eyetest) isnt anything special. And i think he could be a problem in the lockerroom. Iam very new to baseball and i will eat my words when iam wrong. But that is my stand.
 
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He’s a DH who’ll have to stick in LF and trading for him might wipe out the pitching depth.
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Right but how is that different from Castellanos?

Listen if the Padres send him away for money and a few prospects not named Painter then what are we waiting for? DFA Nick at that point idfc
 
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Soto is 1 year younger than Stott. That’s some perspective right there.

Soto grades as a fringe below average fielder, but the Phillies were using maybe the 2 worst outfielders in baseball in the corners at the same time for most of 2 seasons. Soto isn’t that level bad. They signed Turner to play SS — defense isn’t high on their priority list. They might have the best defensive CF in baseball; Marsh is fine in the corners. Soto likely downgrades as he ages, but it’s frankly an improvement as a defensive outfield unit.

His bat. His plate approach. His age. Everything else is confetti.
 
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Magua said:
Soto is 1 year younger than Stott. That’s some perspective right there.

Soto grades as a below average fielder, but the Phillies were using maybe the 2 worst outfielders in baseball in the corners at the same time for most of 2 seasons. Soto isn’t that level bad. They signed Turner to play SS — defense isn’t high on their priority list. They might have the best defensive CF in baseball; Marsh is fine in the corners. Soto likely downgrades as he ages, but it’s frankly an improvement as a defensive outfield unit.

His bat. His plate approach. His age. Everything else is confetti.
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They made the world series with worse OF defense than this season
 
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You don’t have to sell me on the bat. It’s the defensive fit and the trade cost.

I don’t think they don’t have comparable assets to the Padres when they acquired Soto, so I’m guessing they’d have to chew into the MLB depth. I really don’t want a rerun of 2022. Atlanta is probably winning that matchup
 
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wankstifier said:
He’s a DH who’ll have to stick in LF and trading for him might wipe out the pitching depth.
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Ehhh Soto isn't a train wreck out there in the field, which Schwarber absolutely is, and Castellanos certainly can be. And he has a much better approach to at bats than Casty, with it being highly unlikely he goes the levels of ice cold that Casty has been in the playoffs for us since we got him, save for one brief 4 game stretch this year. Give me the guy who is more consistent that keeps the lineup moving. That's what we need more than anything right now, at least in the lineup.

Hell, you can argue if we had that this year the issues with the bullpen don't come to a head because the offense keeps us distanced enough from Arizona to take it out of the equation.
 
Svechhammer said:
Ehhh Soto isn't a train wreck out there in the field, which Schwarber absolutely is, and Castellanos certainly can be. And he has a much better approach to at bats than Casty, with it being highly unlikely he goes the levels of ice cold that Casty has been in the playoffs for us since we got him, save for one brief 4 game stretch this year. Give me the guy who is more consistent that keeps the lineup moving. That's what we need more than anything right now, at least in the lineup.

Hell, you can argue if we had that this year the issues with the bullpen don't come to a head because the offense keeps us distanced enough from Arizona to take it out of the equation.
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You have to pencil in Soto in LF and Castellanos in RF. That's the issue.

All this pining for better ABs in the playoffs and we saw firsthand how the best offense in almost 100 years was dog water when it mattered. I think it's more reasonable to bet on pitching if we're going to fixate on matchups. We should first focus on building the best regular season team, though. Can't keep expecting long runs in the playoffs without a bye.
 
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