OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): When You're Up, It's Never As Good As It Seems, And When You're Down, You Never Think You'll Be Up Again

[Halladay]

In case anyone was curious...we play NFC west, AFC East, our division, KC, Minnesota, and TB in 2023.

Yikes.

That isnt a murderous schedule as of now. Other than the Bills the rest of that division has major questions as does the NFC west.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I want to check the temperature of this fan base:

If a team (Raiders) offered you their 2023, 2024, and 2025 1st round picks for Jalen Hurts this offseason, do you do it?

 

[Halladay]

I want to check the temperature of this fan base:

If a team offered you their 2023, 2024, and 2025 1st round picks for Jalen Hurts this offseason, do you do it?

Which team is offering?

 

[DancingPanther]

If only Leonard Weaver was healthy, I think this was a win.

(Shitposting is an excellent coping mechanism.)

Welcome to my life

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Which team is offering?

Raiders

 

[gertbfrobe16]

What bothered me the most about the call at the end was how late the flag was. It was well after the play was over, he decided it was a penalty after the play failed. The nba refs do this crap, if a basket is made no foul if it's missed it's a foul. Just call the play right or wrong. Too much game management by officials ruins these games.

 

[achdumeingute]

That isnt a murderous schedule as of now. Other than the Bills the rest of that division has major questions as does the NFC west.

Obviously it's the "way to early predictions", but I'd rather be playing the AFC or NFC South.

First glance, I've got
2 yes wins, at TB and vs Ariz
1 No at KC.

14 toss ups is a lot. At LAR and at NE, plus our step backs are why I think toss ups today. At Seattle sucks too.

Most of the rest of hardest opponents are at home (SF, Buf, Mia)

 

[achdumeingute]

I want to check the temperature of this fan base:

If a team (Raiders) offered you their 2023, 2024, and 2025 1st round picks for Jalen Hurts this offseason, do you do it?

100% Call me at the draft, depending on how much we like who is on the board. Nobody is ever a hard no.

If I have to answer today, it's a no.

And..if you do make this deal, we are 100% punting next season.

 

[Halladay]

Raiders

Have to think about about it.

 

[philly_28]

I want to check the temperature of this fan base:

If a team (Raiders) offered you their 2023, 2024, and 2025 1st round picks for Jalen Hurts this offseason, do you do it?

No. As far as I'm concerned this is Jalen's team now. You don't trade your franchise QB.

I know I had some doubts as early as 2 days ago. Not anymore. You go toe-to-toe with Mahomes? In the Super Bowl? You're the franchise QB.

 

[deadhead]

I think the Eagles will be back, maybe not next season, but with Hurts, Howie and Siri is still learning how to coach.
Being schooled by a sure fire HOF HC isn't something to feel embarrassed about.

 

[Beef Invictus]

No. As far as I'm concerned this is Jalen's team now. You don't trade your franchise QB.

I know I had some doubts as early as 2 days ago. Not anymore. You go toe-to-toe with Mahomes? In the Super Bowl? You're the franchise QB.

Yeah. I was Team "Is It Wise To Pay Him?" but now I'm Team "Pay Him."

I still have no idea how much is Jalen himself and how much is smart usage of him to squeeze out the utmost juices. I don't think it matters after that run and that game. Whatever it is, it's working. Invest in it and try to keep it working.

I'd bene saying that with players like him, or Lamar, I'm really glad it's not my job to make these decisions. With Jalen he just made that decision for them.

 

[philly_28]

Yeah. I was Team "Is It Wise To Pay Him?" but now I'm Team "Pay Him."

I still have no idea how much is Jalen himself and how much is smart usage of him to squeeze out the utmost juices. I don't think it matters after that run and that game. Whatever it is, it's working. Invest in it and try to keep it working.

I'd bene saying that with players like him, or Lamar, I'm really glad it's not my job to make these decisions. With Jalen he just made that decision for them.

Oh, it's definitely easier to say this on a hockey message board than being the FO/GM actually making these decisions.

 

[Halladay]

I think the Eagles will be back, maybe not next season, but with Hurts, Howie and Siri is still learning how to coach.
Being schooled by a sure fire HOF HC isn't something to feel embarrassed about.

I know this won't get through but stop making excuses. Doug went up against the greatest and schooled him. They blew this and many of us could see it coming with Gannon. He can't come back next season.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

You go toe-to-toe with Mahomes? In the Super Bowl? You're the franchise QB.

A couple of things here.

Mahomes was FAR more efficient than Hurts yesterday. It was 0.52 EPA/play to 0.25. Game script dictated yardage. Mahomes did way, way more with his Snaps. And Hurts still played well! Mahomes + Reid is just that much better than everyone else.

The EPA gap between Mahomes and Hurts yesterday was bigger than the gap between Hurts and Jimmy G in Feb 2020.

 

[FLYguy3911]

DJ pretty much said before the game they were going to extend Hurts this offseason. Laurie's comments pretty much echoed it as well.

What happened with that last Hail Mary throw? Was it tipped or is his arm just weak?

In real-time it looked like his front foot slipped out when he planted to throw. Story of the night. I just can't get over how bad that field was. Yes both teams had to deal with it, but (imo) it was a distinct advantage for KC with the way Mahomes handles pressure in a normal setting. It is insanely hard for a DLineman to redirect at the top of the drop if they have no footing. And if they slip early in the game, they are going to be more cautious planting later in the game. No one was going to be able to come screaming off the edge unless they were unblocked.

Baldy posted a clip from one of the early drop backs. Sweat smoked Brown off the line. Faceplants trying to turn the corner. A few clicks later and down goes Reddick. Clean pocket, big gain. Yes Mahomes and Reid weren't going to make it easy, but this was a historical pass rush unit that didn't get a sack, forced few true pressures, and as a result no turnovers. Amazing the game was even close.

I am sad they lost a winnable game. Let my kids stay up to watch and it ruined their night which is an important step in becoming a Philly fan

Hot dogs and homemade ketchup too?

I'd also like to say that State Farm Stadium is a clusterf*** for game day operations. I had been there years ago for the Florida/OSU NC and the one thing that I remembered was that it's impossible to get around the concourses.

This was at the top of the area where my seats were last night and on top of this shitshow the attendants at the top of each section demanded to see your ticket before they'd let you down the stairway to the seats making traffic even slower.

My bladder hurts watching that. Reminds me of the cluster f*** of a Stadium Series at the Linc in 2019. My Jordan's got wrecked in that mosh pit.

 

[achdumeingute]

Ouch. On ESPN they just discussed the two fake jet motions for TD. They showed, the cheifs ran the actual jet motions on 2nd...we adjusted secondary personnel to match, and better defend the sweep. They
then came back to the fakes on 3rd down.

Man...tough on our DBs to do the right thing...all isolating the corner to have to stop rotating and get back. Nasty.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I'm gonna catch some flak but I will always love FatMan. He's evolved even further beyond a great coach, he's in my top 5. The man is an offensive genius and he deserves to get the same respect people give the Dark Lord.

Halas, Shula, Belichick, Lombardi, and Reid. You pick the order and I won't argue, but that's Tier 1.

Madden was on track, but had to do it longer to get to the very top.

 

[Striiker]

In real-time it looked like his front foot slipped out when he planted to throw. Story of the night. I just can't get over how bad that field was. Yes both teams had to deal with it, but (imo) it was a distinct advantage for KC with the way Mahomes handles pressure in a normal setting. It is insanely hard for a DLineman to redirect at the top of the drop if they have no footing. And if they slip early in the game, they are going to be more cautious planting later in the game. No one was going to be able to come screaming off the edge unless they were unblocked.

Baldy posted a clip from one of the early drop backs. Sweat smoked Brown off the line. Faceplants trying to turn the corner. A few clicks later and down goes Reddick. Clean pocket, big gain. Yes Mahomes and Reid weren't going to make it easy, but this was a historical pass rush unit that didn't get a sack, forced few true pressures, and as a result no turnovers. Amazing the game was even close.

I saw a tweet during the game that that particular field had been growing for two years at a sod farm for the Super Bowl and cost $800,000. Every day they’d spend an hour rolling it outside to make sure it got a few hours of sunlight too.

Great work.

 

[Halladay]

Halas, Shula, Belichick, and Reid. You pick the order and I won't argue, but that's Tier 1.

Madden was on track, but had to do it longer to get to the very top.

William Ernest Walsh. Most influential coach. Don't care he only coached 10 seasons.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I saw a tweet during the game that that particular field had been growing for two years at a sod farm for the Super Bowl and cost $800,000. Every day they’d spend an hour rolling it outside to make sure it got a few hours of sunlight too.

Great work.

Maybe they shouldn't have greased it daily, though.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

William Ernest Walsh. Most influential coach. Don't care he only coached 10 seasons.

He's up there for sure. So is someone like John Heisman. Hal Mumme too. Landry did for defense what those guys did for offense.

I'll give you a sneaky way in which Walsh was influential. His book is basically considered the most important one written for the modern game. EVRERYONE reads it. My copy cost me hundreds and that was like 15 years ago. A quick search puts them at ~700 USD now.

 

[Jtown]

final test

herbert or hurts?

@Hollywood Cannon

 

[Jtown]

oy

 

[Magua]

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