OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): When You're Up, It's Never As Good As It Seems, And When You're Down, You Never Think You'll Be Up Again

[Beef Invictus]

Wooooof.

I wish Bart much conflagration and constipation in 2023

 

[Beef Invictus]

Looking like no real updates. Still tubed in ICU


Unagated. Shut up bro, crawl back into your hole

My dad is a cardiologist (a heartologist, for those of you who don't know) and his take as an outside bystander is that they would have probably intubated him and kept him knocked out to evaluate him for a bit anyway, as this is a major shock to the system. So this isn't necessarily bad.

 

[DancingPanther]

Looking like no real updates. Still tubed in ICU

 

[JXC]

My dad is a cardiologist (a heartologist, for those of you who don't know) and his take as an outside bystander is that they would have probably intubated him and kept him knocked out to evaluate him for a bit anyway, as this is a major shock to the system. So this isn't necessarily bad.

Maybe keeping him cold too

 

[DancingPanther]

My dad is a cardiologist (a heartologist, for those of you who don't know) and his take as an outside bystander is that they would have probably intubated him and kept him knocked out to evaluate him for a bit anyway, as this is a major shock to the system. So this isn't necessarily bad.

Correct. Also, and perhaps even more simply, he lost his airway while he...well died. Things don't just switch back on like in the movies.

Intubation happens when you can't physically breathe properly on your own or you risk not being able to breathe on your own very soon. Many times it's done so you don't medically crash and burn on a multi organ level. Patients down with cardiac arrest are VERY unstable on re-arrival to this realm. Even though he may have gotten a pulse back, his breaths were likely shallow and irregular. In the ambulance they were probably breathing for him with a bag.

 

[deadhead]

Let's have a reality check, the NFL is populated by well paid volunteers, who are in far less danger than those involved in extreme sports, like back country skiing, mountain climbing, etc. If we're going to shut down the NFL b/c of the danger to players, let's ban all extreme sports and any activity that puts people voluntarily in danger, including hiking in deserts, etc.

The NFL has curtailed a lot of behavior (spearing, etc.) that put players at heightened risk of injury.

But it's a contact sport, as is WMA, boxing, etc. Soccer players get multiple concussions, hockey players and baseball players get hit by projectiles going 90+ MPH and so on.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

… ok

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

 

[Starat327]

… ok

Who do I need to take off ignore to watch this train go off the rails?

 

[Beef Invictus]

 

[Cody Webster]

Let's have a reality check, the NFL is populated by well paid volunteers, who are in far less danger than those involved in extreme sports, like back country skiing, mountain climbing, etc. If we're going to shut down the NFL b/c of the danger to players, let's ban all extreme sports and any activity that puts people voluntarily in danger, including hiking in deserts, etc.

The NFL has curtailed a lot of behavior (spearing, etc.) that put players at heightened risk of injury.

But it's a contact sport, as is WMA, boxing, etc. Soccer players get multiple concussions, hockey players and baseball players get hit by projectiles going 90+ MPH and so on.

Fabolous post. Please tell us more. Between this post and your take on Bedard in the WJC thread last night, you're absolutely on fire with your hot takes. If only all of your posts were this good

 

[flyershockey]

I see someone's talking to the voices in their head again...

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I see someone's talking to the voices in their head again...

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Here’s a palette cleanser…

I got this one in the mail today.

Game worn DeVonta Smith jersey from the 10/9 game against the Cardinals where he set a career high in receptions with ten and recorded 87 receiving yards.

I’ve been working on getting one of these for the last two years and finally was able to.

The jersey was washed in some capacity so some of the wear is gone but a lot of it still remains. It’s photo matched to the shoulder pad strap marks, mesh holes, and a few other things.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Here’s a palette cleanser…

I got this one in the mail today.

Game worn DeVonta Smith jersey from the 10/9 game against the Cardinals where he set a career high in receptions with ten and recorded 87 receiving yards.

I’ve been working on getting one of these for the last two years and finally was able to.

The jersey was washed in some capacity so some of the wear is gone but a lot of it still remains. It’s photo matched to the shoulder pad strap marks, mesh holes, and a few other things.

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Is this good? Do we want this?

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Here’s a palette cleanser…

I got this one in the mail today.

Game worn DeVonta Smith jersey from the 10/9 game against the Cardinals where he set a career high in receptions with ten and recorded 87 receiving yards.

I’ve been working on getting one of these for the last two years and finally was able to.

The jersey was washed in some capacity so some of the wear is gone but a lot of it still remains. It’s photo matched to the shoulder pad strap marks, mesh holes, and a few other things.

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I don't want to imagine what that set you back, but no one can't doubt your Fandom (of sports regalia). Seriously though, that's pretty badass. Will this be worn for the Superbowl, or does that go right on the wall?

 

[Starat327]

I don't want to imagine what that set you back, but no one can't doubt your Fandom (of sports regalia). Seriously though, that's pretty badass. Will this be worn for the Superbowl, or does that go right on the wall?

Why wear an eagles jersey to a niners super bowl?

*runs*

 

[DancingPanther]

Who do I need to take off ignore to watch this train go off the rails?

I'm interested in the cliff notes

 

[deadhead]

This is probably valid, and yet the outrage is still coming from a real place. This is a nasty and deletrious sport. The NFL is its cartel at the highest level. The anger towards it, in this case, probably in part stems from a certain dissonance in folks who want to watch and support an institution that inevitably maims its participants, but don't ever want to reckon with that reality.

It's a big rage-inducing bummer for somebody's fantasy team when a solid WR is hurt, right? But his ankle tear or mid-grade concussion wasn't a game-ending spectacle. Suddenly, when the reality of it all is laid bare in a situation like this, the league is HEARTLESS AND CRUEL for having a contingency plan.

The league knows these situations will happen. We know these situations will happen. But we'll be damned if we admit to ourselves that inevitability, so some cog in the machine must be blamed (rather than the machine itself). A few months ago, it was the Dolphins coaching/medical staff. Tonight it's the NFL. Never, ever will it be the game itself, or our collective fascination with it.

Responding to posts like this.

The NFL is not that nasty compared to boxing and martial arts fighting.
Nor is it nearly as dangerous to participants as many extreme sports.
It's not like ice hockey is much safer, look at how many NHL players suffer repeated concussions without fighting (Patrick, Voracek).

What happened had less to to with the NFL being violent than an unfortunate hit in just the right place and right timing.

Most fatalities are in college football, and usually due to un-diagnosed heart conditions leading to a collapse in practice - and this has lead to increased testing and awareness to the point where probably more players are saved by discovering a heart condition that in normal life would be undetected until they keeled over.

Concussions are the primary issue (arthritis from injuries is chronic but not fatal), and the league has taken steps, albeit having been pushed into it, to reduce them, from rule changes to better equipment.

 

[DancingPanther]

Why wear an eagles jersey to a niners super bowl?

*runs*

You don't have to run from me, anyway

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I don't want to imagine what that set you back, but no one can't doubt your Fandom (of sports regalia). Seriously though, that's pretty badass. Will this be worn for the Superbowl, or does that go right on the wall?

It’s already on the wall.

I never wear my gamers and even if I did… if I somehow managed to get that thing on they’d need to cut it off of me. It’s TINY.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Responding to posts like this.

The NFL is not that nasty compared to boxing and martial arts fighting.
Nor is it nearly as dangerous to participants as many extreme sports.
It's not like ice hockey is much safer, look at how many NHL players suffer repeated concussions without fighting (Patrick, Voracek).

What happened had less to to with the NFL being violent than an unfortunate hit in just the right place and right timing.

Most fatalities are in college football, and usually due to un-diagnosed heart conditions leading to a collapse in practice - and this has lead to increased testing and awareness to the point where probably more players are saved by discovering a heart condition that in normal life would be undetected until they keeled over.

Concussions are the primary issue (arthritis from injuries is chronic but not fatal), and the league has taken steps, albeit having been pushed into it, to reduce them, from rule changes to better equipment.

I'm legit trying to follow. That's the post you were referencing? Did you read the last sentence?

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

It’s already on the wall.

I never wear my gamers and even if I did… if I somehow managed to get that thing on they’d need to cut it off of me. It’s TINY.

Yea when I see DeVonta playing I think, hey, that looks like me out there! When they had him returning punts, I was all

 

[swami24]

If my searches were correct, one player has died during a game in each of the NHL, MLB and NFL in their histories. Quick action by modern staff in these sports has saved many close calls. Here's. Hoping the next few days bring good news.

Right call by the NFL to not make the teams play during this week. I do t know how the Bill's can be mentally ready by next week, even with the hoped for.good news

 

[deadhead]

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I'm legit trying to follow. That's the post you were referencing? Did you read the last sentence?

Yes, and that's my point. The NFL just isn't that violent anymore. Neither is the NHL for that matter.
I mean look at that hit by Chuck Bednarik on Gifford, that would probably get you suspended for half a season these days.

I mean it IS football, but baseball is supposedly a non-contact sport (they even took away breaking up double plays), yet guys run into walls, get hit by 95+ MPH fastballs, etc.

It's really no different than the NHL or NBA (flagrant fouls) these days, they're trying to reduce gratuitous violence, whether it's hitting a defenseless receiver, spearing, etc. in the NFL, or throwing elbows, high sticking or boarding in hockey, and so on. But form tackles and clean checks are physical, and occasionally will hurt players.

Compare to actual fighting, whether boxing or MMA (sic) or martial arts - where the intent is to harm the opponent, the violence isn't incidental but the essence of the sport.