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Bigtimefeed said:
There is nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing more irritating for me than poor secondary play. I can tolerate anything else even and including lack of WR talent. But a bad secondary is my biggest pet peeve in football.
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We're at Christmas and their Zone gaps still look like it's August. I don't know who to blame except everyone.
 
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BiggE said:
Idiot coordinators
Aging corners
Slow safeties
Crap at linebacker
No viable 3rd WR or 2nd TE option

The biggest shock is that they found a way to get to 10-1 in the first place.
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Yup! Don't forget a quarterback who gets off to throwing into double coverage or worse. When was the last time they won a turnover battle? The NFCC?
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
A few common talking points in the fanbase at large and how they illustrate a complete disconnect from what the offense did last year:

  • They're dead last in Motion%. They were last year too.
  • They don't use TEs. Goedert has been targeted slightly more times per game this year than last.
  • Johnson doesn't call shorter routes. Hurts is at 8.6 Air Yards/Attempt. Last year was 8.3. That's functionally equivalent.

It's the same offense. The only major difference is that Hurts isn't a top tier runner.

The basis of their scheme is Inside Zone, RPOs, and ROs out of the Gun. I think everyone understands that Read Options only work if your QB is a running threat, but the same is true for their entire running game. To base yourself in Gun in the NFL and expect to keep running the ball particularly well, you need to threaten the edges with your QB. The scheme is based on a numbers advantage. Hurts' legs allowed them to be at one. They no longer do. Maybe he got hurt in camp and hasn't been healthy from day one. I have no idea. Hell, it would make sense. But that's the big difference.

Now blame the coaching staff for failing to make changes to the scheme by the middle of December and I'm completely on board. But don't tell me any of these schematic complaints are new.
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I honestly hope he’s been playing through an injury or multiple injuries. That would at least give me hope for the future.

My biggest fear is that they are getting old at so many key spots. Lane Johnson, while still a fantastic player, is showing signs of breaking down and they have no one on the roster that is anywhere near capable of replacing him. BG and Cox are playing on borrowed time as well, and while the young DTs look like keepers, their DE play has been disappointing in recent weeks.

And then we have the corners. Bradberry is toast, he’s clearly lost a step. And Slay? Well, betting on a 30+ cb to bounce back after surgery is a bet that rarely pays off. As bad as this D is right now, they could be even worse next season.
 
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BiggE said:
I honestly hope he’s been playing through an injury or multiple injuries. That would at least give me hope for the future.

My biggest fear is that they are getting old at so many key spots. Lane Johnson, while still a fantastic player, is showing signs of breaking down and they have no one on the roster that is anywhere near capable of replacing him. BG and Cox are playing on borrowed time as well, and while the young DTs look like keepers, their DE play has been disappointing in recent weeks.

And then we have the corners. Bradberry is toast, he’s clearly lost a step. And Slay? Well, betting on a 30+ cb to bounce back after surgery is a bet that rarely pays off. As bad as this D is right now, they could be even worse next season.
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*SteveCarrellThankYou.gif*

My Florida brother always knows what to post when he isn't too busy enjoying the band life.
 
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I went back to look at the deep ball to Quez. My initial reaction was wrong. It's not a shot play. It's a fairly normal progression with a check down option. I still don't have a problem with the decision, but if you do, blame Hurts rather than the staff for taking the shot.

Definitely blame the staff for Quez still being a thing and on the field. It's inexcusable.
 
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I don't understand the offensive playcalling, and I don't understand Hurts not seeing the guys open on underneath routes. It's like he either runs it himself, throws a deep route, or does a scramble drill and that's it, besides the moronic screen passes. Both are not good.

The defensive front hasn't done anything in forever too. And the secondary has been crap all season.

I fell asleep and it was 17-10 in the 4th. I cannot believe they let Locke beat them.
 
We all knew losing the SB last season was so devestating because this was was going to be a step back year. Then we got fooled by some veterans coming back and a good draft into thinking they could repeat.

CJGJ, Hargrave, and Edwards were the wrong 3 to lose.
 
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Woke up still pissed. With SF and Dallas I was pissed because they just seemed to not be ready.

But last night? You got beat by a terrible Seattle team with their shitty backup QB.

They had every chance to either blow them out or at least get the W, but they were once again victim to their own shitty playcalling, terrible play, and INEXCUSABLE ability to not get stops on 3rd and f***ing Long
 
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I went back to look at the deep ball to Quez. My initial reaction was wrong. It's not a shot play. It's a fairly normal progression with a check down option. I still don't have a problem with the decision, but if you do, blame Hurts rather than the staff for taking the shot.

Definitely blame the staff for Quez still being a thing and on the field. It's inexcusable.
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Yea I had no issue with them taking the shot. Hurts underthrew it...ok.

But yes, 100% issue with quez still being here. The guy never fights through contact for anything contested. Move on please.
 
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BiggE said:
I honestly hope he’s been playing through an injury or multiple injuries. That would at least give me hope for the future.

My biggest fear is that they are getting old at so many key spots. Lane Johnson, while still a fantastic player, is showing signs of breaking down and they have no one on the roster that is anywhere near capable of replacing him. BG and Cox are playing on borrowed time as well, and while the young DTs look like keepers, their DE play has been disappointing in recent weeks.

And then we have the corners. Bradberry is toast, he’s clearly lost a step. And Slay? Well, betting on a 30+ cb to bounce back after surgery is a bet that rarely pays off. As bad as this D is right now, they could be even worse next season.
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Does it make you feel better to know that Johnson said during the Super Bowl last year that he's playing two more seasons and then hanging it up?

Yeah, me either.
 
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RockLobster said:
Woke up still pissed. With SF and Dallas I was pissed because they just seemed to not be ready.

But last night? You got beat by a terrible Seattle team with their shitty backup QB.

They had every chance to either blow them out or at least get the W, but they were once again victim to their own shitty playcalling, terrible play, and INEXCUSABLE ability to not get stops on 3rd and f***ing Long
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Pretty much every game has been a disappointment outside of Miami. They play to the level of their competition, it honestly feels like they think Hurts is going to bail them out.

Hurts goes with what he is comfortable with which is not passing, and since he is slowed by an injury and sickness he is not as dynamic as last year, Add to that teams had all off-season to game plan for their offense and there has been 0 adjustment. This offense with the weapons should not be struggling.
 
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Does it make you feel better to know that Johnson said during the Super Bowl last year that he's playing two more seasons and then hanging it up?

Yeah, me either.
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Chip Kelly giveth and Chip Kelly taketh

The fact that I know he's going to pull a Peters is going to infuriate me to no end.
 
Bigkarl said:
We all knew losing the SB last season was so devestating because this was was going to be a step back year. Then we got fooled by some veterans coming back and a good draft into thinking they could repeat.

CJGJ, Hargrave, and Edwards were the wrong 3 to lose.
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Yea with the schedule this year, I said 10-7, we had a lot of tossup games on paper.

I wasn't expecting any repeats. Yea I'm not sure why they moved on from CJGJ, but the aging secondary needs help.
 
This isn't a championship caliber team this year, those one score wins really masked things. Regroup for next year.
 
JojoTheWhale said:
I went back to look at the deep ball to Quez. My initial reaction was wrong. It's not a shot play. It's a fairly normal progression with a check down option. I still don't have a problem with the decision, but if you do, blame Hurts rather than the staff for taking the shot.

Definitely blame the staff for Quez still being a thing and on the field. It's inexcusable.
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Love grabbed but Watkins still got bully’d on that ball anyway, didn’t even really try to fight through it.
 
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Trevor with the double down at WR
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Joe Milton is the Davion Taylor of QBs. Do you know how bad you have to be for me to not want to use a developmental pick on a QB with that level of physical talent?

I was going to tag you earlier to say I don't think one WR is enough, but that's a bit rich for me. Thomas would be a wonderful pick. I just don't want to go back and spend a Day 2 on a pure field stretcher with limited upside after doing that. Thomas has deep speed too. The second guy should be a cheap vet or mid-late Day 3.
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
Joe Milton is the Davion Taylor of QBs. Do you know how bad you have to be for me to not want to use a developmental pick on a QB with that level of physical talent?

I was going to tag you earlier to say I don't think one WR is enough, but that's a bit rich for me. Thomas would be a wonderful pick. I just don't want to go back and spend a Day 2 on a pure field stretcher with limited upside after doing that. Thomas has deep speed too.
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Yeah not Trevor's best work.

I can't even think of a developmental QB project to take in the middle rounds this year off the top of my head. It definitely isn't Milton.
 
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