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JojoTheWhale said:
Dogs can be wonderful companions. Just a thought.
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ChaosLord said:
And now, for something completely different.

An extremely unpopular opinion.

I just want to comment what an extremely WIMPY and WEAK group the Philly fanbase are.

For the ENTIRE SEASON, you people didn't express ANY confidence in this team, despite the fact that they

were generally kickin' a** and winning the NFC East.

For the ENTIRE SEASON, there was constant b*thchin': "Sirianni this and Jalen Hurts that."

The most telling thing was, even when they got lucky and Washington knocked out Detroit, and the Eagles got

to face the Commanders in the NFCG, Eagles fans, in this forum and elsewhere, continue to mewl like

90lb weaklings. "Sirianni and Hurts will find a way to screw it up" they whined. So pathetic.

ONLY when the Eagles defeated the Commanders in the NFCG did we see the fanbase come around and

actually express CONFIDENCE in this team.

Honestly, the Eagles are World Champions and they are deserving of a better than fanbase than YOU.

Next season, I hope the Eagle fans actually grow a spine.
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You're referring to a vocal minority. Just because you see forum posts or listen to the same 5 WIP callers complaining, doesn't mean they speak for the entire fanbase.

Also, kick rocks.
 
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ChaosLord said:
And now, for something completely different.

An extremely unpopular opinion.

I just want to comment what an extremely WIMPY and WEAK group the Philly fanbase are.

For the ENTIRE SEASON, you people didn't express ANY confidence in this team, despite the fact that they

were generally kickin' a** and winning the NFC East.

For the ENTIRE SEASON, there was constant b*thchin': "Sirianni this and Jalen Hurts that."

The most telling thing was, even when they got lucky and Washington knocked out Detroit, and the Eagles got

to face the Commanders in the NFCG, Eagles fans, in this forum and elsewhere, continue to mewl like

90lb weaklings. "Sirianni and Hurts will find a way to screw it up" they whined. So pathetic.

ONLY when the Eagles defeated the Commanders in the NFCG did we see the fanbase come around and

actually express CONFIDENCE in this team.

Honestly, the Eagles are World Champions and they are deserving of a better than fanbase than YOU.

Next season, I hope the Eagle fans actually grow a spine.
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For someone named ChaosLord, you seem to suggest absolute order...fall in line or ye be labeled YELLA! You should change your name to Incongruence Lord!

But yea anyway, it's healthy to question your team. It is NOT healthy to do what like 3 people did all season, which is to say Sirianni should be fired, Elliot should be cut right before playoffs, Hurts won't be in the league in 2 years, Jayden Daniels is too much to handle, etc etc etc
 
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Rebels57 said:
You're referring to a vocal minority. Just because you see forum posts or listen to the same 5 WIP callers complaining, doesn't mean they speak for the entire fanbase.

Also, kick rocks.
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Also the internet seems to bring out strong opinions for attention. I don’t listen to it but I imagine talk radio is the same
 
dragonoffrost said:
That's really what Fangio does. He lays the basic groundwork then lets the players react to live situations. I loved it in Denver when he had the dawgs on D but damn the offense was horrible due to no QB and no real weapons
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Similar to the Seattle cover 3 defence in the LOB days. It’s a simple scheme which asks the players to make plays.
But you needed the talent to execute it at a high level, which as that team aged they could not replace.
Also as more teams copied that scheme with Bradley, Quinn, Saleh, Richard, etc. leaving for other positions they implemented it at their new destinations thus teams got to see more of it and could game plan against it better to find the soft spots or how to put the defender in a difficult position.
 
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dragonoffrost said:
That's really what Fangio does. He lays the basic groundwork then lets the players react to live situations. I loved it in Denver when he had the dawgs on D but damn the offense was horrible due to no QB and no real weapons
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Yeah. Successful NFL defense is when everyone understands what is happening, what their teammates are doing, and what they individually are supposed to do. Gimme the Brain Guys out of college every time.

Whitt in DC got slammed for steadily dumbing down his defense. He openly admitted in an interview that if guys aren't on the same page more than a couple times, that read is ripped out of the playbook. They stripped down until they found the thing they all understood, and a dirt simple defense played by a severe lack of talent worked far better than what they started with because it was more cohesive. Jim Haslett came up with all kinds of schemes and reads and situational shit that the players conceded was brilliant; problem was that nobody could keep it all straight and the result was total shit. The key is a solid plan executed really well. Don't outsmart yourself or your own roster.

Fangio had everyone on the same page. Everyone understood what KC does this year with their roster, and understood what they were meant to do when they were doing the thing they do. Totally amazing how much difference even 3rd and 6th made for KC rather than their usual 3rd and 3. First defense in a very long time that I don't think fell for a single Reid mindgame, and they did it with full confidence and authority. It was impressive. It must have taken a lot of work.

On the KC side, Spags sold out on stopping Barkley and dared Hurts to beat them. Good news for KC: they shut down Saquon really well. Bad news for KC: They lost the Hurts gambit severely. Maybe that defensive plan works if their offense keeps up but that didn't happen.
 
For how I personally think about defense, Fangio and Pete Carroll lie on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Cover 3 fell out of fashion because Single High Zones did. Part of that was schematic, but part of it was also not having the lynchpin to run it. Tampa 2 only succeeded as a base because Derrick Brooks was an alien. Seattle Cover 3 only thrived as a base because of Earl Thomas. Once he fell off, that period was over. At their peak, Seattle was running >50% Cover 3 and a ton of Cover 1. They were largely a static defense. QBs were confident in their pre-snap reads.

Fangio varies his coverage plenty. Off the top of my head, they ran ~20%+ of Cover 1, Cover 3, Quarters, and Cover 6. Hell, they run 4 distinct personnel packages. The whole point is that it's not simple, but it has the illusion of it. It tries to present unified looks to the QB and then change the look via things like rotations out of them around the snap. It wasn't just DeJean starting that helped everything gel. The players needed time and reps to learn the system.
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
For how I personally think about defense, Fangio and Pete Carroll lie on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Cover 3 fell out of fashion because Single High Zones did. Part of that was schematic, but part of it was also not having the lynchpin to run it. Tampa 2 only succeeded as a base because Derrick Brooks was an alien. Seattle Cover 3 only thrived as a base because of Earl Thomas. Once he fell off, that period was over. At their peak, Seattle was running >50% Cover 3 and a ton of Cover 1. They were largely a static defense. QBs were confident in their pre-snap reads.

Fangio varies his coverage plenty. Off the top of my head, they ran ~20%+ of Cover 1, Cover 3, Quarters, and Cover 6. Hell, they run 4 distinct personnel packages. The whole point is that it's not simple, but it has the illusion of it. It tries to present unified looks to the QB and then change the look via things like rotations out of them around the snap. It wasn't just DeJean starting that helped everything gel. The players needed time and reps to learn the system.
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When I am in charge we are using science to bring back the 46.

Edit: Speaking of packages, the consistency across personnel was also amazing. EVERYONE was on the same page, knew what they were looking at, knew what to do. There was no group of players looking at a situation and reading it wrongly. There was nothing to pick on.

I mean, maybe late game when they broke through but the game was so thoroughly over I can't take that seriously.
 
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Rebels57 said:
You're referring to a vocal minority. Just because you see forum posts or listen to the same 5 WIP callers complaining, doesn't mean they speak for the entire fanbase.

Also, kick rocks.
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There were also many who had legit issues with Hurts around decision making, late on throws and bailing from the pocket. Those comments get taken out of context as saying Hurts sucks, when its not the case, its just flaws that can limit him sometimes. But most of those also said he's a winner and gamer -- hes always had those flaws but when the game is on the line or its a big game he is pretty clutch.

Sirianni I think the hate comes from people who don't like his personality but you cant say that instead you have to make up something else.

Beef Invictus said:
To summarize:

Normally Mahomes does this:

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On Sunday he was limited to:

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It also didn't hurt that the Chiefs were coached by the Eagles-era Andy Reid, where adjustments meant weakness.
 
if i am looking at it right..i can't get to work on Friday due to the parade lol Septa once again is screwing things up
 
DancingPanther said:
I'm not thrilled about it, but there's an opportunity for an upgrade here.

Of course, any opportunity for an upgrade is an opportunity for a downgrade lol

Just can't have Nick calling plays
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I don’t expect an upgrade. I expect something similar to after 2022 where they have to burn a year to realize they need to go another direction.

I have no way of knowing how Patullo will do if he is hired but I have some doubts with the Eagles likely losing Moore and Nussmeier (QB coach) this offseason.

I’m not going to complain for a while on it though because the team just won the championship and I’m riding the high.
 
I'm expecting Frank Reich to be hired for the role and him to step in and have us humming going forward, and basically leave us with 2 coordinators who we should be confident won't leave anytime soon.

As an aside, y'all on this board are a trip. This is unquestionably the best Eagles team that has ever existed and as more time passes will likely be held in regard as one of the best rosters the NFL has seen, at least in the Salary Cap era, and reading this place from time to time you'd think they were the Browns. Cracked me up all year long. Never change, guys.
 
Svechhammer said:
I'm expecting Frank Reich to be hired for the role and him to step in and have us humming going forward, and basically leave us with 2 coordinators who we should be confident won't leave anytime soon.

As an aside, y'all on this board are a trip. This is unquestionably the best Eagles team that has ever existed and as more time passes will likely be held in regard as one of the best rosters the NFL has seen, at least in the Salary Cap era, and reading this place from time to time you'd think they were the Browns. Cracked me up all year long. Never change, guys.
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Reich would be a good hire. He is now 63. Had 2 HC jobs. Probably not someone teams will give another opportunity to. So, you wouldn't worry about him getting plucked like what has happened to Detroit losing Johnson/Glenn or what happened to themselves with Steichen/Gannon. KC has run with Reid as the defacto OC and Spags as DC for many years now.

It's also very impressive in how the Eagles have drafted and how Howie has moved around picks. Wentz trade kicked things off, plus the NO trade to land Carter and getting that extra 2nd this past year to move up with Wash for Dejean.
 
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