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I am mentally prepared for 6 years x 6.5 million...and will dislike it even if it is market value now for how he has produced. Less than that, will be pleased. More, and I will be very disappointed.
Confirmed with Link: [PHI/WPG] Kevin Hayes UFA rights for a 2019 5th
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Starat327
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Think we're all paddling that boat together. Im mentally preparing my self for a 6/40
PhlthyRich
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After some sleep I like this move more, and I hope we reach a deal. Overall positives:
Fletcher is being active + filled arguably our biggest need.
Patrick can grow into his own and if this is his year to break out, even better. We'll be strong (or very strong) down the middle.
+ 2-3 years from now if Patrick is the real deal, you likely can trade Hayes.
Hayes could take some of the defensive load off Couts and create more favorable minutes and matchups for our top line.
Our 2nd PP unit can improve with him.
Good faceoff guy + can kill penalties.
Fletcher is being active + filled arguably our biggest need.
Patrick can grow into his own and if this is his year to break out, even better. We'll be strong (or very strong) down the middle.
+ 2-3 years from now if Patrick is the real deal, you likely can trade Hayes.
Hayes could take some of the defensive load off Couts and create more favorable minutes and matchups for our top line.
Our 2nd PP unit can improve with him.
Good faceoff guy + can kill penalties.
So far it’s a 5th and capspace. Wait until Fletcher actually moves something good and then complaining will be at supernova levels.
The Madrigal
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I expect 6 x 7.0 or 7 x 6.0. I would be pretty happy with 6 x 6.0 considering Nelson got that and Hayes is the better player.
PHILOUDELPHIA
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I don't remember a Hayes on the list, stick his acess out
I'm ok with losing the 5th, however Hayes sucks.
Fletcher is a junior holmgren in the making. He should be fired now.
YEAH BUT THEY TRADED A FIFTH AND HE ISN'T THE BEST PLAYER IN TEH WORLD SO WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT? ANDREW MACDONALD HAS A BAD CONTRACT! /sarcasm
hatcher
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Hayes is a solid two way center that makes us away better team. This team has to give up 100 less goals and hayes will help that if the rest of the team competes and joins in the fun. Thata boy Fletcher keep on rolling by trading for Trouba and signing a ferland type. This team right now could not play the blues or Bruins in a 7 game series and win but were gonna get there.
Yeah, it would sure suck to go back to the days when the Flyers were making deep playoff runs and always in contention.
The Madrigal
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The Madrigal
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For sure. Fletcher should be fired for trying to do that.
PHILOUDELPHIA
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Yeah always in contention and losing.
I want an elite front office, coaching staff, players.
Curufinwe
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No it doesn't. You can only give a player 8 years if he was on your roster at the previous trade deadline.
Lol. Give the guy a chance. If Hayes scores 25-30 goals this year I wonder if you will be upset because he is making six million dollars and we gave up a 5th?
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25-30 goals is very optimistic. Hes only had 1 season over 20 goals in his career. 17-20 goals, 45-50 points is what id expect.
Starat327
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Shhh. Everyone has career years when they come here. It is known.
Curufinwe
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I would have preferred to go after Duchene first, and look at Hayes if Duchene signed elsewhere, but that most likely ends with getting neither of them.
Two years ago the Jest traded for Stastny and we were very pleased with the result , he was a good player and helped with the playoff run. The Jets cleared some cap space to try to resign him but could not . Hayes was traded for about the same package and was okay at best , he underwelmed in playoffs and had decent at best results in regular season . I had mentioned earlier in a post on another thread that Hayes and T Myers were decent players but were not what the Flyers need and i stand by those remarks .
I don.t care what the contract looks like i was more worried about the player aquired .
FatTugboatFlahr
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I feel like Hayes will get a more palatable contract than Duchene will.
I’m not so sure Duchene is the type of player I want to hand a huge contract to.
I’m not so sure Duchene is the type of player I want to hand a huge contract to.
Striiker
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Notice how so many are scared ****less of Flyers players disappointing but apparently any outside player added will definitely play at their peak?
Trouba and Hayes have career bests during contract years and no warning sirens go off, apparently. People here aren’t good at pattern recognition.
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GKJ
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Probably the biggest complaint someone should have is that we're going after a player who can score 15-20 goals, which we have enough of already, unless Konecny and Lindblom and Patrick are the ones who you think can get to 30.
PhlthyRich
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Bingo. Last summer Hexy missed out on Statsny and then we were left with noone to help down the middle. Fletcher likely realized Duchene wasn't realistic and took a step to get the next best UFA Center. We couldn't repeat last summer and go into this season with question mark for our 2C / 3C
Striiker
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Starat327
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Notice how so many are scared ****less of Flyers players disappointing but apparently any outside player added will definitely play at their peak?
Trouba and Hayes have career bests during contract years and no warning sirens go off, apparently. People aren’t here aren’t good at pattern recognition.
Hard to resist the temptation of adding TrouPPa, our new #1 ppqb and Haygoals, our new sniper.
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