Confirmed Trade: [PHI/NSH/VGK] Ryan Ellis to PHI, Cody Glass and Philippe Myers to NSH, Nolan Patrick to VGK

[Anaheim4ever]

Isn't Patrick only a concussion away from retirement. Why would Vegas take that risk ?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Has Glass really fallen that far? Vegas moving out Glass for Patrick, given his injury history, seems on the surface like a really odd, risky move.

If he has another concussion Patrick becomes very damaged goods.

Kinda funny Glass is traded for a guy who is 'Made Of Glass'

 

[Hockeypete49]

Love this for Nashville. From what I know, Myers is great and younger.

But Flyers fans, correct me if I'm wrong.

I will give you younger only cause he sucked last year and I was a fan of his.

 

[LCPreds]

I'll miss Ellis and his beard. But if you're expecting the Ellis from a year or two ago you're going to be disappointed. Plus he'll be serviceable in the regular season but he's easily abused in the playoffs when the refs don't call anything.

It's time for the Preds to move on and while I was a bit cold on this at first I've come around. I'll miss Ellis in general a whole lot more than I'll miss the current day 30yr old version with that contract that will look really bad really soon.

 

[LCPreds]

I will give you younger only cause he sucked last year and I was a fan of his.

And that's the thing here. Preds fans say basically the same thing about Ellis. I mean you need to replace 'younger' with 'old and hobbit-like' but 'sucked last year' is a constant.

 

[mr4tno]

As a flyers fan I knew it was too good to be true. A couple of years trying to get young and fast now we re back to old and slow....45 more years....

 

[sxvnert]

Great move for philly, patrick is a mega bust.

 

[BruinsBtn]

They'll have to really, really believe in Glass. I know Ellis is 30 and last season showed some signs of age + injury related decline, but they gave up a legit 1st pairing RD. I would've expected a better return than a 2nd pair defenseman and a formerly high-end prospect.

Kinda strange for Vegas to be involved at all, but I guess they think they have a better chance of reviving Patrick than Glass.

I don't understand how Vegas handled Glass because I believe he can be a #1 centre.

 

[llamateizer]

Lol

 

[CupsOverCash]

Lol

Damn..

 

[kp61c]

Great move for philly, patrick is a mega bust.

Why? They are saddled with 30 years old Ellis till 2027 with a caphit of 6,25m. Looks disgusting to me.

 

[Pia8988]

Awful for Vegas.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Hasn't Philly been trying to get Ellis for a long time now?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Can Winnipeg and Vegas just trade franchises? A huge chunk of the VGK roster and staff is Manitoban/Saskatchewaninian, it would work.

 

[Ita]

Glass >>>> Patrick

Vegas got fleeced

 

[bigbabybuda]

Ellis is the best player in this deal by a country mile and while he has injury history I don't expect him to regress terribly over the next 4 years. I actually think Philly won this trade with Vegas getting the worst of it. I'm not a fan of Patrick at all. Also never been big on Glass but still mighy have some offensive pedigree to tap into.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I mean I'm not a fan of any of these teams, but this looks like a giant swap of bad players for bad contracts.


If Philly got the 'best' player in Ellis. Ooof.

He wasn't great last year, on the wrong side of 30, with 5 more years at over $6m+ AAV... ... ooof.



Nashville made out the best by dumping salary, and getting a cheaper Myers and Glass. But a 3rd pairing guy who's already 24, and a 4C isn't a steal. They certainly aren't a better team.

 

[kp61c]

I mean I'm not a fan of any of these teams, but this looks like a giant swap of bad players for bad contracts.


If Philly got the 'best' player in Ellis. Ooof.

He wasn't great last year, on the wrong side of 30, with 5 more years at over $6m+ AAV... ... ooof.



Nashville made out the best by dumping salary, and getting a cheaper Myers and Glass. But a 3rd pairing guy who's already 24, and a 4C isn't a steal. They certainly aren't a better team.

Isn't it 6 more years?

 

[David71]

that means philly isnt in on the jones sweepstakes now.

 

[flyerslducks]

I mean I'm not a fan of any of these teams, but this looks like a giant swap of bad players for bad contracts.


If Philly got the 'best' player in Ellis. Ooof.

He wasn't great last year, on the wrong side of 30, with 5 more years at over $6m+ AAV... ... ooof.



Nashville made out the best by dumping salary, and getting a cheaper Myers and Glass. But a 3rd pairing guy who's already 24, and a 4C isn't a steal. They certainly aren't a better team.

we got timmo on the "wrong side of 30" as well and he was great until the end

 

[flyerslducks]

that means philly isnt in on the jones sweepstakes now.

good I'm glad we didn't overpay

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

McCrimmon won't let go of past Wheat Kings, but saw this coming other than that fact. This could be a hit or miss for Vegas, Patrick might emerge as their number one centre or bust.

But Nashville getting Glass is telling me Duchene or Johansen will be gone and he might be the guy to fill that role. But at the same time Nashville looks to be rebuilding, thus not putting pressure on Cody Glass.

 

[Osprey]

As far as the Glass-Patrick swap goes it's interesting to me the perception that Patrick is some worthless bandaid considering he's played 197 professional games since being drafted, all of them in the NHL. Glass has played 88 total, 66 in the NHL and didn't exactly light the world on fire either. Curious to hear opinions on why Glass has all this untapped potential while Patrick is a definite bust considering they're more or less the same age.

There's another way of looking at it. While Glass has played only 66 games in the NHL and put up only 22 points, as you noted, he did that over two seasons when Patrick played only 52 games and put up only 9 points. Patrick would've played a lot more if he hadn't missed an entire season, but we can't excuse that because injuries are a big reason why there's concern about him reaching his potential. He also had a very disappointing season that was a big step back for him. Glass, on the other hand, has been very slowly improving and hasn't had any major setbacks. It may still be a bit disappointing, considering where he was selected and the hype that he had, but his development still seems to be going in the right direction and getting more opportunity will help. I think that that's why some people see a little more hope for him than Patrick.

 

[hockfan1991]

3 wayyyyyy

3 waaayyys my favorite

 

[Osprey]

Damn..

FYI, that's Ryan Ellis, the race car driver. That said, it's something that I can see Ryan Ellis, the hockey player, saying, as well.