Confirmed Trade: [PHI/NSH/VGK] Ryan Ellis to PHI, Cody Glass and Philippe Myers to NSH, Nolan Patrick to VGK

[BurntToast]

Rebuild?

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

They'll have to really, really believe in Glass. I know Ellis is 30 and last season showed some signs of age + injury related decline, but they gave up a legit 1st pairing RD. I would've expected a better return than a 2nd pair defenseman and a formerly high-end prospect..

6 years left at huge money, it looks like some NHL GMs are finally factoring contracts into trade values now (see also, Tarasenko being exposed in the expansion draft).

McCrimmon was Patrick's GM in the WHL, I believe, but I don't like that move for Vegas.

 

[dredeye]

Wow did the flyers ever do well.

 

[Giterdone]

Ellis is declining hurt a lot easily pushed off puck really small I like the trade

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Vegas being exempt from the expansion draft is ridiculous. Can't wait until they miss the playoffs for a few years and are a horrible team so that we can all start rooting for them like a proper expansion team

 

[Platano King]

Has Glass really fallen off that much? I remember him being considered one of the NHL's best center prospects, and now he's getting traded for someone who can't even stay on the ice.

 

[Bevans]

Vegas is not exempted. They are excluded. Vegas owner would love an 8 figure check silly.

 

[bossram]

6 years left at huge money, it looks like some NHL GMs are finally factoring contracts into trade values now (see also, Tarasenko being exposed in the expansion draft).

McCrimmon was Patrick's GM in the WHL, I believe, but I don't like that move for Vegas.

I think the cap implications definitely make trading Ellis a reasonable "future-proofing" move, but really thought they could've done better with the return.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

Big trade love this Kind of trades

 

[Armourboy]

They'll have to really, really believe in Glass. I know Ellis is 30 and last season showed some signs of age + injury related decline, but they gave up a legit 1st pairing RD. I would've expected a better return than a 2nd pair defenseman and a formerly high-end prospect.

Kinda strange for Vegas to be involved at all, but I guess they think they have a better chance of reviving Patrick than Glass.

Ellis really isn't a 1st pairing Dman, that just happens to be more or less where he played because Ekholm is on the same side as Josi and can pretty much carry anyone. The reality is that Ellis is more like a really good 2nd pairing guy these days, but if he finds his head and stops running from contact he could be fine on a 1st pairing again. He just wasn't very good this year and lost his spot to Carrier in the playoffs.

 

[TT1]

damn what a trade, ya love to see it

pretty fair trade tbh, i like it for NSH cus im high on Myers

 

[CupInSIX]

6 years left at huge money, it looks like some NHL GMs are finally factoring contracts into trade values now (see also, Tarasenko being exposed in the expansion draft).

McCrimmon was Patrick's GM in the WHL, I believe, but I don't like that move for Vegas.

He had Provorov too. Should have traded for him instead.

 

[japhi]

I really think if Poile keeps trading top pair dmen for C’s, in the next decade he may get a #1C.

 

[thrillermiller89]

You're aware that Burns is 4 years older than Ellis and that you don't have to talk about risk when you already know how his last four years under contract went, right? They have still been pretty good and it doesn't make sense to expect Ellis to hold up even better than that as a baseline. It might happen, but it's far from a guarantee.

The risk is clearly in regards to the backend of the contract. No point in talking about the last 4 years. They play a similar offensive style despite the clear size difference. And the contacts are similar both in terms of when they were signed and the AAV. That’s the point I was making.

 

[thrillermiller89]

The risk is clearly in regards to the backend of the contract. No point in talking about the last 4 years that Burns just played. They play a similar offensive style despite the clear size difference. And the contacts are similar both in terms of when they were signed (their age) and the AAV. That’s the point I was making.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Myers is (or at least was) an intriguing defenseman. If he can get his game back on track in Nashville, this isn't a bad haul for them imo. Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I'd consider him the x-factor for the Predators here and would probably rather have him than a first

Ellis might be somewhat overrated tbh

 

[Soundgarden]

Myers is (or at least was) an intriguing defenseman. If he can get his game back on track in Nashville, this isn't a bad haul for them imo. Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I'd consider him the x-factor for the Predators here and would probably rather have him than a first

Ellis might be somewhat overrated tbh

If anybody knows their defensemen it's Nashville.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

When you trade Cody Glass and get Nolan Patrick it's a huge win

Huge win? They both suck. It's a wash.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Patrick seems a bit like damaged goods at this point. I really wanted the best for him and thought he had a chance. He has back issues and he has had multiple concussions in his short time with the team.

Last year he was pretty awful after missing a season with migraines which may or may not have been caused by the concussions.

He has the stick-handling ability and he is a really good playmaker with time, but his game speed and ability to execute on his manuevers has been multiple steps behind.

He was given every opportunity last season in terms of playing time on the PP to rack up points, but he just couldn't do it.

thx

 

[Fight4yourRight]

This is f***ing terrible. Fletcher still hasn't learned.

Lol. No.

 

[Osprey]

Credit to @LCPreds for posting this elsewhere

 

[CartographerNo611]

So does Ellis suck now or something?

Nah just overrated a bit. He is a small defenseman and is an average skater. Has trouble with bigger forwards in the corners. His shot is a great from the point. It will be interesting to seem him without Ekholm or Josi around to lighten the load. Contract is going to be a stinker towards the end if his skating is already average and the league getting faster.

 

[CanadienShark]

Woah. I think this is good for both sides, but really out of the blue.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Has Glass really fallen that far? Vegas moving out Glass for Patrick, given his injury history, seems on the surface like a really odd, risky move.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Nah just overrated a bit. He is a small defenseman and is an average skater. Has trouble with bigger forwards in the corners. His shot is a great from the point. It will be interesting to seem him without Ekholm or Josi around to lighten the load. Contract is going to be a stinker towards the end if his skating is already average and the league getting faster.

He'll play with Provorov. He'll be just fine.