im just wondering if theres a way danny can bring him up without burning a year, it would be good asset management to explore every option it was more thinking out loud than me saying thats what will happenAnother example - Jake Sanderson in Ottawa. Drafted 5th overall in 2020. Signed his ELC on March 27, 2022 at age 20. Burned the first year without playing an NHL or AHL game.
ya ive been doing some reading and a club and player can agree to an amateur tryout contract instead of burning an a year off an ELC. Heres an example :
griffinshockey.com
...he didn't play in the NHL...ya ive been doing some reading and a club and player can agree to an amateur tryout contract instead of burning an a year off an ELC. Heres an example :
Griffins Sign William Wallinder to ATO
Wallinder totaled 26 points (7-19—26) in 50 regular-season SHL games this year, which tied for first among U21 players.
signed to an ELC that kicks in next year, and also signed an ATO for the rest of the 2023 season. i knew there was something recently like this but this is what i meant.
"was also signed to a three-year entry-level contract by the Red Wings, beginning in the 2023-24 campaign"
You cannot play NHL games on an ATO but anything to avoid admitting you’re not wrong. Good luck.
the amateur part of ATO only means they havent played pro games, its for players coming from junior and college leagues. players that have played professional games sign a PTO or a pro tryout, and its the same thing as an ATO. It allows a player to play professional hockey games without a contract in place, that includes AHL and NHL games. I think youre confused still. sorry for being hostile earlier calling you a genius but youre not really doing anything to help your case man. I didnt understand it at first either thats why I did a little research and u can too big buddy
It does not include NHL games no matter how many times you repeat it. You can play ONE game under emergency recall and that is mostly reserved for goalies because the emergency restrictions are easier to navigate with a goalie.
why would we burn a year of his ELC just to bring him in for a handful of games? he can sign the ATO with the phantoms, and if the Flyers have an injury they can call him up. I never said it was going to happen, I just said there was a way and there is
Because it's SOP for top prospects, they're not going to risk injury without a corresponding benefit.
ya its standard when you want to get them in the lineup but theres not any rush for cutter. Id rather Danny doesnt burn a year for what are ultimately meaningless games. it wont hurt his develop if his season ends in april instead of may. the injury part makes sense but a contract just puts the responsibility on the team it doesnt make it less likely he gets injured
College players have leverage and this is the standard that has been set. The Flyers wanted him to sign for this year. They will be horned up to do so in April. They are not going to risk losing him for an ELC year. Mind you they lose the first year of his ELC and not one year of player control.
i was wrong about the amount of games but it is possible to play in the nhl on an ATO, thats all i was tryinf to figure out and until other people explained it you just said no they cant, so it wasnt really helpful if thats how you intended.
im asking why theres a risk in losing him. dont we have his rights for so many years? i thought it was 4 years for college players?
You don't play hardball with a player you think may be a cornerstone of your team for 10 years and sour relations before he even plays for you.
As an observer, no that's not what were doing. You were condescending to someone despite being wrong. You certainly were implying him playing more than 1 game on an emergergency basis without getting paid. After all you said "NHL games".
