I think the Habs are better off holding onto Petry next season. He was a shell of himself due to the rigors of the cup run. Both physically and mentally exhausted coming into this nightmare of a season. I think he turns it around next season and depending on where the Habs are placed, they could opt to trade him at higher value (than he is now). Habs really have no reason to trade anyone as they ain't competing anytime soon.
Value of: Petry to Buffalo
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Didn't he ask to be moved due to family issues? Hanging on to him may not be what Petry is interested in.
Joker is playing well enough with Power for Buffalo not to have to get stupid
Getting an upgrade RD makes Fitz the extra and that's not a bad thing.
No, Petry would rather be a Hab than a Sabre. That's for sure. lol
There were rumors but nothing firm.
The report was he wanted out of Montreal and closer to his family. Buffalo would be both closer to the family home (about an hour flight without border restrictions) and his family gets some relief from the badgering.
malcb33
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Not this again...There's been multiple Petry threads recently and they never end well.
The outsider's perspective on HF (AKA evaluate him just on this season)- Petry sucks, he is old and has a horrible contract= negative value
Petry had a rough start to the year due to lingering injuries, a shortened off-season, being away from his family, and playing for the worst team in the league which completely lost their identity (everyone looked terrible). He's played much better since MSL took over and was arguably the Habs best player over the previous 4 seasons. He was also one of the 5-10 D-men in the league last year and garnered Norris consideration.
It's extremely likely he still holds value around the league, as most GM's look past one bad season (although it has an impact on his value for sure). I don't believe at all the Habs will just give him away, and they've pretty much said so.
The outsider's perspective on HF (AKA evaluate him just on this season)- Petry sucks, he is old and has a horrible contract= negative value
Petry had a rough start to the year due to lingering injuries, a shortened off-season, being away from his family, and playing for the worst team in the league which completely lost their identity (everyone looked terrible). He's played much better since MSL took over and was arguably the Habs best player over the previous 4 seasons. He was also one of the 5-10 D-men in the league last year and garnered Norris consideration.
It's extremely likely he still holds value around the league, as most GM's look past one bad season (although it has an impact on his value for sure). I don't believe at all the Habs will just give him away, and they've pretty much said so.
Odd, but where are all of the people talking about his level of play being poor? I don't see it in this thread. Nor that he's not worth "anything". Kind of a strawman on both counts, honestly.
He isn't worth 6.25m. Are the Habs sending over a 1st or a 2nd + for taking Petry?
A late first for Petry? That’s bat $&#* crazy my man. Unless you retain 50% and even then.
Older, declining player coming off a really terrible season making too much AAV for 3 more years. Cap is still flat. There is a 0.0000% chance Petry returns a 2022 or 2023 1st or 2nd. Habs will need to retain quite a lot to get any value trading him.
The idea that Petry, on an ugly new deal with much higher AAV, he being 34-35 years old now. Three years of term left! Played poorly this season. That fact pattern doesn’t bode well for a trade.
The term remaining on this contract is a BIG negative.
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Because they have said they want a veteran RHD, especially one who can mentor Power as his partner? It's not like this is just a cap dump or something, he has use and value to the Sabres.
malcb33
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I guess you didn't read any of the other recent Petry threads or notice how low the offers are for him?
Der Jaeger
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Regardless, he isn't worth 6.5m.
I have typed that 3 times now and I can't type it any slower.
I mean, the offers for a 34-year old with a large contract are not going to be the same today as they would've been if he was 28. That's risk that will put a drag on the return.
But I also don't think he's without value or has to be a cap dump or something.
With contract, age, rough year Sabres might part with a late 2nd in 2023.
As someone said earlier, throw in Allen and take Bjork and maybe together they're worth FLA 1st.
But the vibes coming out of Granato and Adams are that they're satisfied that Samuelsson-Dahlin and Power-Jokiharju can grow together as the top four next year.
I don't think Petry is cooked. I'm just not sold that he contributes to a playoff team in 2024 and 2025. At least not any more than a vet UFA that can be signed in those years at half Petry's cap hit.
As someone said earlier, throw in Allen and take Bjork and maybe together they're worth FLA 1st.
But the vibes coming out of Granato and Adams are that they're satisfied that Samuelsson-Dahlin and Power-Jokiharju can grow together as the top four next year.
I don't think Petry is cooked. I'm just not sold that he contributes to a playoff team in 2024 and 2025. At least not any more than a vet UFA that can be signed in those years at half Petry's cap hit.
To a team that his contract is not a payroll structure constraint, it matters a lot less than just typing it over and over again and expecting people to start to adopt that stance. By the end of the deal? Sure, there is some worry for what that is. In the two years in between? Not really a concern for Buffalo.
Der Jaeger
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About a decade ago, when the Sabres were right at the beginning of the tank and rebuild, the Sabres reportedly offered Shane Doan a contract worth $7.5M per season. That offer was considered a massive overpayment. Doan stayed in Arizona regardless.
Looking back now, having Doan as the captain when bringing in Eichel, Reinhart, and the youth drafted during the Sabres tank year would've saved the Sabres about 6 years of heartache. The Sabres failures since 2015 had nothing to do with skills. It was all mental and maturity. In that regard, Shane Doan would've been worth $10M per season.
The Sabres have the best young blueline in hockey. Dahlin, Samuelsson, and Jokiharju are all 22. Power is 19. Buffalo is actively looking for a veteran to add onto the blue line, and it's not for skill. Buffalo is looking for a veteran to help those kids navigate the NHL game, on and off the ice.
In that regard, $6.5M is a bargain.
With teams losing money the past year and the Sabres having the worst attendance in the league, I am sure they would rather pay what a player is worth and not overpay. It isn't a smart conract for them to pick up with no retention or someting else to sweeten the pot.
We differ on his ability.
This is what needs to happen. Get a solid RD to push Fitz down to the extra man and you have a very impressive D core.
Sammy - Dahlin
Power - Joki
Bryson - UFA/Trade.
Prefer a stay at home shot blocker that can just eat easy minutes and play on the PK
The way to fix their attendance issues is to continue to build on their second half by making moves that fill needs. The Sabres two biggest are in net and on RHD. Having watched a lot of Petry, not just this season - his "struggles" are solidly overblown in the face of reduced goal production for his entire team. We'll have to agree to disagree. Buffalo doesn't need him to be their top pairing RHD, they need a guy who has handled that position to impart wisdom and add veteran stability to a top 4 that is averaging 22 years of age right now.
While both hits and blocks are pretty relative by rink, Petry is 26th in hits/60 and 32nd in blocks/60 out of RHD who've played 40 NHL games or more this season (that's a field of 89 guys).
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