Value of: Petry to Buffalo

[itwasaforwardpass]

It’s really a question of what Petry has left, isn’t it?

It’s almost a given Buffalo will make a move for a veteran RHD this summer. Petry might be older and more expensive than what they are looking for though.

Unless the acquisition cost is very cheap, I think they’d be looking elsewhere first.

I'm not so sure it's a given that Buffalo pursues a top 4 RHD now that Dahlin is playing well on the right side if Mattias. At least not a RHD that costs anything significant to acquire.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Just like prices for roster moves in the summer are never the same as they are for deadline acquisitions.

Except Habs fans were ridiculed for the demands of Chiarot and were predictablly right!!

 

[DJN21]

I really don't think the Habs have a cap crunch, there's rumours they want to spend this summer but I think if anything they'll wait until next year to do so. I might be out to lunch on the value but I definitely don't think they'll have to pay to move him, he's a year removed from a 3 year stretch as a top 25 D and rallied in the second half of the season to show he's not washed

you can have a 2nd and we call it a day then...

Petry isn't gonna move this rebuild forward that much to justify paying any more

 

[Chainshot]

Except Habs fans were ridiculed for the demands of Chiarot and were predictablly right!!

That has nothing to do with how the cost of player acquisitions at the trade deadline are not the same as they are over the summer. Never have been, never will be.

 

[Chainshot]

The Habs would have to retain and if I am the sabres gm, I am not interested in Petry.

Why would the Habs need to retain?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

That has nothing to do with how the cost of player acquisitions at the trade deadline are not the same as they are over the summer. Never have been, never will be.

It has everything to do with Habs fans calling it correctly on player value. Accept it - we know!

 

[Lockin17]

Petry playing with Power could be a really good fit for Buffalo.

Something around
Habs : Petry (2mil retained) + Jake Allen
for
Buffalo : First pick 2023

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Maybe Vegas's 2023 2nd and Aaron Huglen?

We also would NEED to take the full contract. Retention does nothing for us.


EDIT: Or maybe Petry and Weber's contract for future considerations.

 

[Chainshot]

Petry playing with Power could be a really good fit for Buffalo.

Something around
Habs : Petry (2mil retained) + Jake Allen
for
Buffalo : First pick 2023

Buffalo doesn't need an retention.

 

[10Ducky10]

Why would the Habs need to retain?

He's not worth 6.5m for the next 3 seasons.

 

[jfhabs]

You can't be serious. Petry is the 29th highest paid defenceman in the league.
Not sure he was that at his peak, and he is certainly past his peak.

He was 8th in D scoring last season while not being a tire fire defensively.
Even including his horrible season this year, he's 20th in the league in scoring for defenseman since 2017.
He was also a core player on a defensive oriented team that made it to the cup finals in 2021.

If you want to be taken seriously, at least make some quick search.
Not even getting into the mechanics of players right, elc/rfa vs ufa and what not.

 

[jfhabs]

the real question is what you are willing to give away to get him here. I'd give very little to help the Habs and their cap crunch. Would he be a welcome addition? sure. Am I paying out the nose for him absolutely not.

We don't really have a cap crunch, we have no one of interest to sign.
Petry is still a good defenceman, he's only stuck on a very bad team. He might not be the greatest leader, but he's a very good player still. There's no point in giving future asset to move him. I don't understand why these threads are made (daily) tbh.

 

[Dulind]

What do we have? 9 picks between the first 2 rounds of this year and next year's draft?

I'd rather draft, trade up, or trade some of those picks for a younger RHD.

 

[Der Jaeger]

3rd + Olivier Nadeau ?

I'd close on that one. Switch Nadeau out or just bump to a 2nd and I'm sold.

The Habs would have to retain and if I am the sabres gm, I am not interested in Petry.

Sabres don't need to have the Habs retain. Petry's contract becomes an issue for the Sabres in 2024-25 when the Sabres need to re-sign Dahlin and Power. The Sabres can likely fit his contract for the two remaining years.

Petry playing with Power could be a really good fit for Buffalo.

Something around
Habs : Petry (2mil retained) + Jake Allen
for
Buffalo : First pick 2023

Buffalo went down the "trade 1sts to accelerate the rebuild" path when Tim Murray dealt 2015 1st rounders like a drunk card table dealer. That's not the path Buffalo will take again.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Petry playing with Power could be a really good fit for Buffalo.

Something around
Habs : Petry (2mil retained) + Jake Allen
for
Buffalo : First pick 2023

A: Buffalo only has one 1st next year (their own), and they’re not trading that. Of course, they’ll have another one if the Vegas 1st for this year ends up being top 10. But we won’t know that until the draft lottery (or if Vegas makes the playoffs, whichever is first).

B: the Sabres don’t need retention.

C: you can have Florida’s 2022 1st for Petry and Allen, but you gotta take Bjork back.

 

[is the answer jesus]

Petry playing with Power could be a really good fit for Buffalo.

Something around
Habs : Petry (2mil retained) + Jake Allen
for
Buffalo : First pick 2023

I can't see a scenario where Buffalo is moving their own 1st round picks. Maybe for a star player in his prime. Certainly not for Petry and Allen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

A: Buffalo only has one 1st next year (their own), and they’re not trading that. Of course, they’ll have another one if the Vegas 1st for this year ends up being top 10. But we won’t know that until the draft lottery (or if Vegas makes the playoffs, whichever is first).

B: the Sabres don’t need retention.

C: you can have Florida’s 2022 1st for Petry and Allen, but you gotta take Bjork back.

Sure, as long as Bjork doesn't make like 8 mill for some reason.

Petry has sucked this year, but if you factor in that everyone around has pretty much sucked this year and when his home game is done, his family isn't at home that's going to take a toll on anyone.

Petry is still a good dman who can put up 40+ points a season, maybe not his last season of the contract, but for next year and the year after he should be able to.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Sure, as long as Bjork doesn't make like 8 mill for some reason.

Petry has sucked this year, but if you factor in that everyone around has pretty much sucked this year and when his home game is done, his family isn't at home that's going to take a toll on anyone.

Petry is still a good dman who can put up 40+ points a season, maybe not his last season of the contract, but for next year and the year after he should be able to.

Nope. For some reason he makes $1.6M

 

[Jumptheshark]

Any move to be made here? I think at this point Petry's 15 team NTC basically has become a 6 team list as getting south of the border seems to be the priority.

I think he got asked to do too much with Weber's absence and looked atrocious early, value isn't in the toilet anymore since elevating his play under MSL but his age/contract surely won't have him valued as the top pair D he still is. I think Buffalo showed a good amount of promise this year and is one of only a few teams with cap space where Petry would make sense. Fills a huge need at top 4 RD and gives them a bit more flexibility than if they were to pursue Klingberg.

The only other teams I thought could be a landing spot are Columbus, Dallas (Klingberg walking), Pittsburgh (Letang walking), Islanders, Seattle, Anaheim, New Jersey (if moving Severson) but I feel like Buffalo makes most sense

why would Sabres do the Habs this favour and take on Petry at £6.25 for 3 more years? and why would petry waive his M-NTC to go to buffalo. If Petry was like 28 they would have interest in him, Also, while his cap hit is 6.25 his actual money is 7.5, 7.5 and 5--not much more than his actual cap hit but at 34 he is not the same player

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I really don't think the Habs have a cap crunch, there's rumours they want to spend this summer but I think if anything they'll wait until next year to do so. I might be out to lunch on the value but I definitely don't think they'll have to pay to move him, he's a year removed from a 3 year stretch as a top 25 D and rallied in the second half of the season to show he's not washed

this offseason we have 0 salary left. Suzuki 7.5m deal start and with Weber until the season start we literally have no cap space.

On topic : Petry has 10 points in his 15 last games with no PP time or close to none. people calling him a 5th def overpaid are clueless

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

why would Sabres do the Habs this favour and take on Petry at £6.25 for 3 more years? and why would petry waive his M-NTC to go to buffalo. If Petry was like 28 they would have interest in him, Also, while his cap hit is 6.25 his actual money is 7.5, 7.5 and 5--not much more than his actual cap hit but at 34 he is not the same player

Petry said he wanted out of Canada and said he did not want to play for a western U.S team. He's from Detroit so he wants to play around there. He will waive around this are. and no he's not washed. We are last in the league behind Arizona. Everyone sucks in those kind of seasons.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Petry said he wanted out of Canada and said he did not want to play for a western U.S team. He's from Detroit so he wants to play around there. He will waive around this are. and no he's not washed. We are last in the league behind Arizona. Everyone sucks in those kind of seasons.

Habs fans are starting to sound like Oiler fans on selling their older players on 5mill + a year and how valuable they are

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Habs fans are starting to sound like Oiler fans on selling their older players on 5mill + a year and how valuable they are

Petry can actually still play hockey and can be a good powerplay option. It's like saying hes completely washed up. Good thing GMs don't value a bad season into being washed up. Nobody in this league would be playing

 

[Zman5778]

I think I've said this in other threads:

Petry and Buffalo seem like a perfect fit. Buffalo desperately needs a veteran RHD. Buffalo doesn't need Montreal to retain any cap hit at all.

The only question would be the return. I doubt he returns a 1st. Maybe Vegas' 2nd rounder in 23 plus a lottery ticket. (Marjala, Kozak, Lyckasen, etc)

 

[Hobnobs]

IF sabres does this I think realistically Habs are looking at maybe a 2nd + one of the lesser prospects.