Confirmed with Link: Petry signs a one-year contract.

[Tarus]

This screams sign and trade to me.

Can't imagine why

Teams don't tend to give up much for players on the last year of a contract before UFA status.

 

[doulos]

Stauffer said Schultz is NOT seeking a longterm deal.

He said he "thinks" the Oilers would give him the McDonagh deal (5 x 4.7 million) but he doesn't think Justin will take a long-term deal. Justin is likley seeking a 1-2 year deal and hoping to get 6 million plus at the end of it.

This makes sense. Schultz has made it clear since he left Anaheim that he is all about the dollars. I would expect nothing less than him squeezing every dollar out of every team that will give it to him. And why not? In a few years he might Bergeron his way out of the league anyways. A guy has to make his money while he can.

 

[Aerchon]

This screams sign and trade to me.

This scream 1 year stop gag to me, and that Mac T is broke.

A lot of people are forgetting the cap was originally slated to go up to 71 and ended up only being 69. I don't expect it to jump a whole bunch next year and we will have some serious contracts to get wrapped up. Not to mention the following year where we have a lot of players looking for contracts.

Mac T has to be careful or he won't be able to sign much of the young talent coming up.

 

[GMofOilers]

This scream 1 year stop gag to me, and that Mac T is broke.

A lot of people are forgetting the cap was originally slated to go up to 71 and ended up only being 69. I don't expect it to jump a whole bunch next year and we will have some serious contracts to get wrapped up. Not to mention the following year where we have a lot of players looking for contracts.

Mac T has to be careful or he won't be able to sign much of the young talent coming up.

Cap will jump up next year due to the TV contract that kicks in.

 

[GMofOilers]

Way to much love for Petry and not enough for Schultz in this thread.

 

[Soli]

Just had a chance to read the news. Oh Petry... I'm gonna miss you.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

That's like over a million less than most of us thought he would sign for on a one year deal.



And he and his agent would have said no, because 500k for a "few more years" doesn't equate to what he could make in free agency next year.

Do you really think the Oilers didn't pursue a wider array of options with the Petry camp?

Since you really didn't get the rest of what I said, I'll state it again "Obviously specific details are not evident, just my opinion off what is available."

Maybe quote it all next time. I obviously don't know what the specifics were of the negotiations and necessity of this specific contract. I just gave a brief opinion on what was presented as of now.

 

[oobga]

And in neither case do you have any certainty the player will want to sign there.

I can't think of any example of unsigned RFAs who were traded. Anyone?




Ding ding ding! If Petry didn't want to sign here long term, the team didn't have very many options.

I can't think of many either. Don't see why it would be that crazy to do though, not like he would be a big offer-sheet target. His name was making rounds last week as being available for a trade and no one seemed to question how he was still unsigned like it would make it unprecedented to trade him.

He didn't go to arbitration, so I guess the other option was to keep talking to him to try to get at least a 2 year deal, since the season is still a long way away. Doubt Petry has any interest in sitting out during the season or bolting to another league. Not sure what the big rush was signing him, unless there is indeed a big flabby Schultz contract coming that will take up a big chunk of cap space, which will be another bad move.

 

[Moose Coleman]

Way to much love for Petry and not enough for Schultz in this thread.

You might want to look at what this thread is about.

 

[Moose Coleman]

I can't think of many either. Don't see why it would be that crazy to do though, not like he would be a big offer-sheet target. His name was making rounds last week as being available for a trade and no one seemed to question how he was still unsigned like it would make it unprecedented to trade him.

He could probably be traded as an unsigned RFA, but I seriously doubt any team gives up much for him.

He didn't go to arbitration, so I guess the other option was to keep talking to him to try to get at least a 2 year deal, since the season is still a long way away. Doubt Petry has any interest in sitting out during the season or bolting to another league. Not sure what the big rush was signing him, unless there is indeed a big flabby Schultz contract coming that will take up a big chunk of cap space, which will be another bad move.

Are you suggesting they should have tried to force him to sign a longer deal?

 

[Aerchon]

I can't think of many either. Don't see why it would be that crazy to do though, not like he would be a big offer-sheet target. His name was making rounds last week as being available for a trade and no one seemed to question how he was still unsigned like it would make it unprecedented to trade him.

He didn't go to arbitration, so I guess the other option was to keep talking to him to try to get at least a 2 year deal, since the season is still a long way away. Not sure what the big rush was signing him, unless there is indeed a big flabby Schultz contract coming that will take up a big chunk of cap space, which will be another bad move.

If Petry really didn't want a long term/to be an Oiler wouldn't he have just gone to arbitration? I purely guessing but I think this has more to do with Cap management than anything else.

Question for anyone who reads this. How much do you think Petry would have gotten via FA this year?

Even with how crazy over priced D-men were this year I can not imagine he would have gotten both 4 mill per year plus a long term deal. Not that I am in the know but from the little i've heard Petry is not exactly commanding a lot of respect around the league. I know the US Olympic squad didn't even think him worth even an invite to the orientation camp.

Barring a huge increase in his play I don't imagine he will be a big prize next year either.

 

[SLURVE]

Petry is probably no. 4 dman, at his best could be a #3 or 2 and at his worse, he is a #5. Obviously, MacT recognizes this and he is unwilling to pay a salary of a top pairing dman even if Petry was playing top minutes due to absentia.

Educating Petry has not been fair. Since the Oilers rebuilding has been below average esp with the hiring of Eakins and poor asst. coaches as support, Petry has been put into a no. 2 then a no. 1 role. I remembered the year of Ryan Whitney injuries started (2010-11), Petry was supposed to go back to the AHL for further development but stayed. The year (2011-12) when Whitney was constantly injured and the on-going regression of Barker, the trading of Gilbert pushed Petry into the no.2 slot. In 2012-13, under Krueger, Petry and Smid were their top pairing dmen. Petry at 24-25 years of age, should be developing in the AHL and slowly brought up to play 3rd/2nd pairing minutes in the NHL not top pairing minutes.

MacT signed him for 1 year as RFA. I can think of a few reasons as to why this is.
A gamble by MacT to not sign him for longer term so Petry becomes a stop gap before Nurse /Klefbom is NHL ready; and or Schultz to develop into top pairing dman. If Petry does grow into a trusted top 1st or 2nd pairing dman, MacT will decide whether to resign him or trade him before UFA. Oilers are in a better position with prospects and current signees dmen than ever before. This is a good gamble by MacT.

If Petry's camp is not getting the salary for top pairing dman, then their choice is limited and only to sign for a shorter term and to wait for UFA.

For Petry, he is at a cross-road in his career. He has no other options but to play hard next year for a big pay day-not bad, either way he will have a job in the NHL most likely not as a top pairing dman.

 

[TheBrew]

Boychuk for Petry at 50%? saves Boston cap space if they want to make a bigger move.

 

[Aerchon]

Boychuk for Petry at 50%? saves Boston cap space if they want to make a bigger move.

I could be wrong but Edmonton is at the limit for the amount of contract they are allowed to retain salary on.

 

[oobga]

He could probably be traded as an unsigned RFA, but I seriously doubt any team gives up much for him.



Are you suggesting they should have tried to force him to sign a longer deal?

What's unreasonable about a team wanting a player to sign for >1 year when they have 1 year to go before they're UFA? Petry is a player we should be trying to keep IMO. I think the Oilers not feeling the same way is where my disconnect is. Surely there is some money/term that he would take to stick around past next season, but I'm doubting now that the Oilers had much interest in that and see Petry as someone we can replace pretty easily.

 

[McspOiler]

Can I ask what petry supporters are willing to pay him? 3mill for 1 rfa year means he thinks he's worth 4.5-5 per long term.... I don't know if he's worth that.

 

[T-Funk]

I could be wrong but Edmonton is at the limit for the amount of contract they are allowed to retain salary on.

I think they are free of that limit now, thought it got freed up July 1, and gagner's NTC started July 1 so we couldn't keep part of his salary to trade directly with Phoenix.

 

[The Nuge]

There you go Schultz. Petry took 3, now take the 2.5 you're worth and earn a bigger deal

 

[oobga]

Can I ask what petry supporters are willing to pay him? 3mill for 1 rfa year means he thinks he's worth 4.5-5 per long term.... I don't know if he's worth that.

4M AAV for 2 years (which essentially gives him 5M extra for adding the 2nd year compared to the 1 year deal), maybe 4.25M AAV for 3+, I don't think he has the reputation to command more than that. Although, the Nikitin deal probably makes talking about UFA years a bit more difficult with Petry.

 

[T-Funk]

There you go Schultz. Petry took 3, now take the 2.5 you're worth and earn a bigger deal

Yup. Where's all these claims of 8,9,10 million for these two combined?

 

[Moose Coleman]

What's unreasonable about a team wanting a player to sign for >1 year when they have 1 year to go before they're UFA?

Nothing. But if the player doesn't want to stay for two years, what can they do? "We want to keep you for longer than a year so much we're willing to risk you sitting out to get what we want" doesn't seem like a strategy that would yield good results.

Petry is a player we should be trying to keep IMO. I think the Oilers not feeling the same way is where my disconnect is. Surely there is some money/term that he would take to stick around past next season, but I'm doubting now that the Oilers had much interest in that and see Petry as someone we can replace pretty easily.

Could be Petry felt he could do better in the open market and probably sees the writing on the wall in terms of his future here. Or, as you said, the team doesn't value him as much as they should.

 

[Klimando Kostani]

Yup. Where's all these claims of 8,9,10 million for these two combined?

Let's be fair, those claims were made under the impression that both players would be signed long term.

Also we have no clue what Schultz is getting

 

[shoop]

Could be Petry felt he could do better in the open market and probably sees the writing on the wall in terms of his future here. Or, as you said, the team doesn't value him as much as they should.

This was bound to be a tough negotiation.

Petry clearly felt he was a top pairing guy and deserved the money. He did lead the Oilers in TOI even-strength last year, which is part of why he would feel that way. From his perspective there is no reason to give up time in unrestricted free agency.

The team isn't ready to commit big dollars and term to him. So be it.

In essence, this is pretty much what would have happened in salary arbitration.

If term was a big deal breaker than kudos to MacT for getting what he could get.

If Petry proves he is a top pairing guy, pay him the money or he leaves. If he doesn't, it makes him that much easier to sign to a reasonable deal. Assuming the team still wants him around.

 

[SchultzSquared*]

What's unreasonable about a team wanting a player to sign for >1 year when they have 1 year to go before they're UFA? Petry is a player we should be trying to keep IMO. I think the Oilers not feeling the same way is where my disconnect is. Surely there is some money/term that he would take to stick around past next season, but I'm doubting now that the Oilers had much interest in that and see Petry as someone we can replace pretty easily.

We have already replaced him... Fayne is a similar player (59 pts in 236 GP vs 48 in 242) and comes at just $600K more with term... writing was on the wall for Petry Dish at that point

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-UFA/Trade (~$4M)-Purcell
Pouliot-Arcobello/Lander/Draisaitl-Yakupov
Hendricks-Gordon-Pinizzotto
Arcobello/Lander Gazdic

Nikitin-Fayne
Marincin/Nurse/Klefbom-Petry
Ference-J. Schultz ($3.5MM)
Aulie

Scrivens
Fasth

==$67.4MM

 

[Man Purse]

and besides all this.. nobody in Alberta wants to buy a Petry jersey...

they all want a Schultz jersey

I wonder where Petry jerseys would be in demand...?? hmmmm