Confirmed with Link: Petry signs a one-year contract.

Oilers4life1987

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I believe that this is a last try year for him. They want to see what he's made of and if he doesn't perform, he ll be gone by march. Total speculation from my part
 

Asher

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You weren't getting full value from an RFA on the cusp of unrestricted free agency anyway.

I suspect the equalizer will be a larger contract in return or a player who is also approaching unrestricted free agency.

You would have got a lot more value for him as an RFA then you would now. The only teams I could see with a real interest and something good to offer in return would be those in cap trouble.
 

Moose Coleman

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It doesn't matter, they were both under contract. As long as a team gives you permission its fine.

Impending UFAs are obviously different because once the contract is up the team no longer controls the player's rights.

I've never heard of teams giving permission to talk to impending RFAs outside of offer sheets and offer sheets only.

Or trade him for a player now and let another team sign him to a multi year deal. This one year deal was absolutely worst case scenario.

Again: you're assuming a team would give up a player for a guy they might not be able to sign at the price they want. Unlikely.
 

SK13

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You would have got a lot more value for him as an RFA then you would now.

Perhaps if the team you're trading him to could talk to his camp and suss out a longer term contract, but not for a second do I believe any management team in this league is dumb enough to trade for a guy without a contract, with a qualifying offer, who is one year from unrestricted free agency at top value.
 

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my hope: he has a monster of a season and re-signs long term here for whatever he's worth. I just like the guy. I see flashes of brilliance among the missteps and I still have all kinds of faith in him even if others don't.

But who knows. With the weird term it could go a number of ways as others have said.

Was totally expecting something longer already.

I guess either way it's a season in which he proves himself though, right? can only be good for us.
Was totally expecting long term already, which is
 

Tom Brady

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Petry is the most overrated defenseman on this board, i don't see what's so special about him, i've seen him play for 4 years now, nothing he's done impressed me. trade his ass or let him walk next year if he wants more than 3.5 per.
 

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They were pretty much screwed with Petry. Usually, with a 26 yr old, you know what you've got by that point. With Petry, they don't. What could they do, Give 5.5 x 5 for an ok D when you've got Schultz and Yak to sign?

Did they wait too long again? In the end, they will end up with less then they had; a scenario we've seen play itself out, literally, dozens of times. Do we let their excuses satisfy us and give me a free pass?
 

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The thing about Petry is he's not really great at any one thing.

Would you say he's an offensive d-man ... not really, he's been given a lot of PP time with all the forward talent here and has never really put up impressive numbers.

Is he a defensive d-man ... well ... I guess ... kinda ... he does have a tendancy to blow defensive coverages a lot.

Is he physical? Well ... sometimes he throws a big hit. Sometimes he seems to shy away from physical contact though.

Is he great at moving the puck? I wouldn't really say so.

Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible at any of those things either, but he's not particularly great in any one area either.
 

redgrant

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The thing about Petry is he's not really great at any one thing.

Would you say he's an offensive d-man ... not really, he's been given a lot of PP time with all the forward talent here and has never really put up impressive numbers.

Is he a defensive d-man ... well ... I guess ... kinda ... he does have a tendancy to blow defensive coverages a lot.

Is he physical? Well ... sometimes he throws a big hit. Sometimes he seems to shy away from physical contact though.

Is he great at moving the puck? I wouldn't really say so.

Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible at any of those things either, but he's not particularly great in any one area either.

Exactly. Like Schutz we all know hes excellent at going up ice his flaw is his defense. There is nothing wrong with a dman that can do everything good not great. Problem is Petry is either below average in everything or just average in certain areas.
 

Up the Irons

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The thing about Petry is he's not really great at any one thing.

Would you say he's an offensive d-man ... not really, he's been given a lot of PP time with all the forward talent here and has never really put up impressive numbers.

Is he a defensive d-man ... well ... I guess ... kinda ... he does have a tendancy to blow defensive coverages a lot.

Is he physical? Well ... sometimes he throws a big hit. Sometimes he seems to shy away from physical contact though.

Is he great at moving the puck? I wouldn't really say so.

Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible at any of those things either, but he's not particularly great in any one area either.

And with Marincin stepping in and looking better then Petry ever did (Kelfbom aswell, albeit smaller sample) has a lot to do with this.

It's not a great play, but what could they do, really, other than trade him at the last TD? They've, clearly, decided that they are going with Schultz, Marincin and Klefbom. I probably agree.
 

oobga

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Should have just left Petry unsigned then and traded him. Very unlikely by the time we can negotiate an extension (Jan 2015) he will want to stay here after the team is on track again to miss the playoffs. So we trade him for next to nothing at the deadline. On of our very rare decent players outside of the 1st round we developed and he is going to take off for some picks most likely. Great stuff.

If this contract is followed by a ridiculous Schultz contract this team is so screwed.
 

Moose Coleman

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Should have just left Petry unsigned then and traded him. Very unlikely by the time we can negotiate an extension (Jan 2015) he will want to stay here after the team is on track again to miss the playoffs. So we trade him for next to nothing at the deadline. On of our very rare decent players outside of the 1st round we developed and he is going to take off for some picks most likely. Great stuff.

If this contract is followed by a ridiculous Schultz contract this team is so screwed.

Do you really think the return on an unsigned player would have been that much better than the return on a deadline rental?
 

Burnt Biscuits

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The thing about Petry is he's not really great at any one thing.

Would you say he's an offensive d-man ... not really, he's been given a lot of PP time with all the forward talent here and has never really put up impressive numbers.

Is he a defensive d-man ... well ... I guess ... kinda ... he does have a tendancy to blow defensive coverages a lot.

Is he physical? Well ... sometimes he throws a big hit. Sometimes he seems to shy away from physical contact though.

Is he great at moving the puck? I wouldn't really say so.

Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible at any of those things either, but he's not particularly great in any one area either.

Great is probably too strong of a word, but I'd put him in the category of being very good at moving the puck, strong puck movement is critical to the success of our group so I put a ton of value on this one attribute alone. I'm pretty off put by this one year deal, obviously with us getting him locked up for only one year there was a pretty big disagreement on what his valuation should be, but I still consider him to be our best d-man and to set the table to have your best d-man walk as a UFA in one years time isn't a good thing by any means.
 

oobga

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Do you really think the return on an unsigned player would have been that much better than the return on a deadline rental?

Absolutely more than a deadline rental, and I would argue trading him right now unsigned would be worth more than trading him now with this 1 year deal. One is pretty much guaranteed to be UFA, the other you have months still to negotiate a longer deal. Is there really any added value at all to giving Petry the same contract any other NHL team could have given him 2 seconds after trading for him? Now any team that takes him has to wait until Jan 2015 to see if they can extend him. The Oilers put zero effort into this contract, it's probably exactly what Petry wanted. Now he can get some of that crazy UFA money that is getting tossed around every year, he can just look at Nikitin on his own team for an example who he will likely outperform if we don't trade him before the season starts.
 
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Really disappointed we didn't get him locked up long term. We get him for another year at a low cap hit, but unless we're doing it to allow us to add a big one-year contract via trade (or UFA signing, but I don't see much out there worth giving big bucks to), it's a big risk possibly having him walk next year.
 

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Not the worst thing from the Oilers POV either right?

If he progresses, you try and extend him. If he regresses or overprices himself, we have the depth and guys pushing upwards in the organization.

Nurse and Klefbom should be regulars in 2015/2016 after spending full seasons in Sault Ste. Marie and Oklahoma City respectively.

Marincin-Fayne
Nurse-Schultz
Klefbom-Nikitin

Given Nurse, Klefbom, and Marincin all continue to progress along with Schultz taht could be a very good blueline.
 

Moose Coleman

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Absolutely more than a deadline rental, and I would argue trading him right now unsigned would be worth more than trading him now with this 1 year deal. One is pretty much guaranteed to be UFA, the other you have months still to negotiate a longer deal.

And in neither case do you have any certainty the player will want to sign there.

I can't think of any example of unsigned RFAs who were traded. Anyone?


Is there really any added value at all to giving Petry the same contract any other NHL team could have given him 2 seconds after trading for him? Now any team that takes him has to wait until Jan 2015 to see if they can extend him. The Oilers put zero effort into this contract, it's probably exactly what Petry wanted. Now he can get some of that crazy UFA money that is getting tossed around every year, he can just look at Nikitin on his own team for an example who he will likely outperform if we don't trade him before the season starts.

Ding ding ding! If Petry didn't want to sign here long term, the team didn't have very many options.
 

OilerFan4Life

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so, Schultz is getting the long term contract he wanted? that's what this signing says to me

Stauffer said Schultz is NOT seeking a longterm deal.

He said he "thinks" the Oilers would give him the McDonagh deal (5 x 4.7 million) but he doesn't think Justin will take a long-term deal. Justin is likley seeking a 1-2 year deal and hoping to get 6 million plus at the end of it.
 

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Not the worst thing from the Oilers POV either right?

If he progresses, you try and extend him. If he regresses or overprices himself, we have the depth and guys pushing upwards in the organization.

Nurse and Klefbom should be regulars in 2015/2016 after spending full seasons in Sault Ste. Marie and Oklahoma City respectively.

Marincin-Fayne
Nurse-Schultz
Klefbom-Nikitin

Given Nurse, Klefbom, and Marincin all continue to progress along with Schultz taht could be a very good blueline.

That's very, very young blueline. I'm expecting MacT to trade Marincin/Klefbom+ for defender who is ~30 years old.
 

Raab

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Not the worst thing from the Oilers POV either right?

If he progresses, you try and extend him. If he regresses or overprices himself, we have the depth and guys pushing upwards in the organization.

Nurse and Klefbom should be regulars in 2015/2016 after spending full seasons in Sault Ste. Marie and Oklahoma City respectively.

Marincin-Fayne
Nurse-Schultz
Klefbom-Nikitin

Given Nurse, Klefbom, and Marincin all continue to progress along with Schultz taht could be a very good blueline.

I would bet dollars to doughnuts we never see all 3 of Marincin, Nurse, and Klefbom slotted to play a full season with the Oilers. I think 1 or 2 of those guys will be traded to help fill out the roster. I said when we drafted Nurse that he would be our Brayden Schenn, a high profile prospect who can be traded to bring in a legit need to put the team over the top.
 

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