Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 3)

[snipes29]

This team gets flustered easy by soft goals and that’s what happened today. The first and second goals were real bad. At least they didn’t completely collapse in the third like they did last weekend.

Soft goals ? I sit behind the net they were great shots blame it on Simpson??Bad coaching, undiscipline has plaged this team for years ? No accountability take a dumb penalty never miss a shift?

This team doesn't even deserve to make the playoffs. They could take a lesson from the teams behind them who actually put effort in and care about playing as a team. The trades they made have made them worse. All the talent doesn't matter if they don't care about trying to play together. If they get through round 1, it'll be a miracle.

Agree

What does it say that Lardis and Panwar are superstars for Hamilton and Hayes and White are "fine" for Peterborough?

Look behind the bench?

Agree need a coach

 

[snipes29]

This team should be competing for at least third place but instead they’ll be fighting for home ice and could possibly only be 6 points ahead of the 8th place team after today which is just sad. It’s too late to fire Wilson but this team needs a wake up call big time

Fire him anyway, Kitchener just fired their coach?

Trading Lardis and Van Volsen and then falling this flat probably assures that if this team doesn't make the conference final at minimum (which is hard to see at this point), coach and GM should both be gone.

Amen

 

[snipes29]

Wilson’s gone that’s pretty much already decided (barring a miracle playoff run) Oke should be but won’t the board of directors love him his job will be safe if I had to put money on it

Love him??? Wtf

Othmann, Robertson and Hayes was a line from the London game until the Kingston game (4 games). Hayes had 8 points, Othmann had 5, Robertson 10.

No one seems to be able to do much unless they're playing with Robertson.

Yep very true

 

[snipes29]

Well let’s be honest they need a new arena and the only way they’ll get one soon is if a owner takes control of the team best thing that could happen unless you want to keep seeing a mediocre team


Owner wouldn’t put up with this non sense wilson would have been fired and Oke would have never been hired in the first place.

Lmao agree

 

[Petesfan8]

Lol

You should talk to Belleville Bulls fans about their thoughts on the results of private ownership such as their team moving to Hamilton.

 

[User13452]

You should talk to Belleville Bulls fans about their thoughts on the results of private ownership such as their team moving to Hamilton.

That was because they didn’t want to do the required renovations to the arena

 

[ptbopete]

Team is losing with at least 10 big time players. Players are getting less talented as the season goes on. They’re teenagers mostly. Losing like this is on the coaches.

 

[Section7fan]

There is ZERO sense firing the coaching staff in an effort to win this season. You’d be stuck with whatever that staff is next season and the following 2-3 seasons whent he team will be pretty much starting from scratch. It is far better to ride out this coaching staff and make a decision at the end of the season who would be the best group of coaches to rebuild the franchise. Oak may or may not be the right guy for that job. But, anyone they bring in mid-season to “turn things around” is likely not the best option to rebuild the franchise starting next season.

Do you mean Wilson? I don’t think Oke (GM) has been that bad. I wasn’t a huge fan of the deadline this year and it was out of character but I don’t think he should be fired for it.

 

[Section7fan]

Soft goals ? I sit behind the net they were great shots blame it on Simpson??Bad coaching, undiscipline has plaged this team for years ? No accountability take a dumb penalty never miss a shift?


Agree


Agree need a coach

What game are you talking about? The first two goals today were horrid and cost us the game.

The first two goals yesterday were also horrible and cost us the game.

 

[User13452]

Do you mean Wilson? I don’t think Oke (GM) has been that bad. I wasn’t a huge fan of the deadline this year and it was out of character but I don’t think he should be fired for it.

Oke wont be fired the blame is going to fall onto Wilson for sure and maybe the rest of the staff.

 

[Section5Petes]

Oke wont be fired the blame is going to fall onto Wilson for sure and maybe the rest of the staff.

Obviously it depends what happens in playoffs but let’s say they continue on the trajectory they are on and lose in first round or something then I think Wilson, Verner and Walser are gone. Gonna have to make a choice on Oke but I think he will be the safe one but who knows.

 

[User13452]

Obviously it depends what happens in playoffs but let’s say they continue on the trajectory they are on and lose in first round or something then I think Wilson, Verner and Walser are gone. Gonna have to make a choice on Oke but I think he will be the safe one but who knows.

Agree. They’ll be starting a rebuild so I’d think they’d want a new coaching staff and I’m not even sure Wilson would want to stick around for a rebuild

 

[NorthernVoice]

That was because they didn’t want to do the required renovations to the arena

So the idea here is that a private owner comes in and buys the barely break even Petes, spends $30-60 million of their own dollars to build a new arena for said break even proposition and everything magically gets better?

L O L

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Has Robertson been as dominant as his numbers show for the Petes? I do not get to watch any Petes games so just stat watching here but wondering how he is developing. Does he have a chance to make it to the NHL in a few seasons? If yes, in what type of role?

Thanks.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Has Robertson been as dominant as his numbers show for the Petes? I do not get to watch any Petes games so just stat watching here but wondering how he is developing. Does he have a chance to make it to the NHL in a few seasons? If yes, in what type of role?

Thanks.

Robertson is having a great year and he has often been dominant but I'm not sure how quickly or how well that translates in his next step to pro.

IMO, he'll never be a top 6 guy in the NHL but he has the tools to be a solid 3rd/4th line center. He is a good face-off guy, a relentless checker, wins more puck battles than he loses and has a knack for stripping pucks off opposing players' sticks. He has been an ironman for the Petes during his time here - one of the most consistent players when it comes to his effort each and every game.
Robertson is good on the PK and his hockey IQ is high level making him a player who raises the level of play for his line-mates.
IMO the speed of the game at the next level will be the biggest hurdle in his adjustment.

Seattle could end up being a great fit for his development.
I wish him all the best next year.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Update on contest between @OMG67 and @NorthernVoice

After 13 games, here is the update on total goals:

So @NorthernVoice will win if the Petes score at least as many goals as the 67s over the final 17 games and the Petes outscore NB by at least 16 goals over the final 17 games. Otherwise, @OMG67 will win.

 

[OMG67]

Update on contest between @OMG67 and @NorthernVoice

After 13 games, here is the update on total goals:

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So @NorthernVoice will win if the Petes score at least as many goals as the 67s over the final 17 games and the Petes outscore NB by at least 16 goals over the final 17 games. Otherwise, @OMG67 will win.

Thanks, BW.

But, I only win if one of Ottawa or NB outscore Petes by 10. If it is within 10 goals either way, it is a tie.

 

[OMG67]

Do you mean Wilson? I don’t think Oke (GM) has been that bad. I wasn’t a huge fan of the deadline this year and it was out of character but I don’t think he should be fired for it.

Yes. Oak would be the one rebuilding. So, first they would need to decide if he is the right guy. If so, then they need to decide what the coaching staff should look like.

There is no sense canning the coaching staff at this point because the attributes required to win right now may not be the same attributes required to rebuild. If they hire a coach of any merit, they’d likely need to give him a 3-4 year deal. I’d probably want one that is used to working with younger players and skill development starting next year.

Right now, I’d want a leader that can mobilize an experienced team.

I don’t think a guy with BOTH attributes is easily found mid-season. Additionally, if they are focussing on skill development, I’d be looking more at the assistant coaching staff next season too.

I just don’t think it is as easy as dumping a coach and moving forward with a new guy.

 

[Section5Petes]

Yes. Oak would be the one rebuilding. So, first they would need to decide if he is the right guy. If so, then they need to decide what the coaching staff should look like.

There is no sense canning the coaching staff at this point because the attributes required to win right now may not be the same attributes required to rebuild. If they hire a coach of any merit, they’d likely need to give him a 3-4 year deal. I’d probably want one that is used to working with younger players and skill development starting next year.

Right now, I’d want a leader that can mobilize an experienced team.

I don’t think a guy with BOTH attributes is easily found mid-season. Additionally, if they are focussing on skill development, I’d be looking more at the assistant coaching staff next season too.

I just don’t think it is as easy as dumping a coach and moving forward with a new guy.

Agree with all of that there. For this rebuild they definitely need some big changes. For next season, Wilson, Verner, Walser are gone and Oke stays. I think that is a fair bet

 

[User13452]

Agree with all of that there. For this rebuild they definitely need some big changes. For next season, Wilson, Verner, Walser are gone and Oke stays. I think that is a fair bet

If Oke was worried his job was on the line he would have fired Wilson by now to see how the team reacted. I’m not sure if Mckenzie’s job in Kitchener is on the line but it seems like it could be when firing a coach with 2 years left on his deal that to me seems like someone who is trying to save his job

 

[Section7fan]

Yes. Oak would be the one rebuilding. So, first they would need to decide if he is the right guy. If so, then they need to decide what the coaching staff should look like.

There is no sense canning the coaching staff at this point because the attributes required to win right now may not be the same attributes required to rebuild. If they hire a coach of any merit, they’d likely need to give him a 3-4 year deal. I’d probably want one that is used to working with younger players and skill development starting next year.

Right now, I’d want a leader that can mobilize an experienced team.

I don’t think a guy with BOTH attributes is easily found mid-season. Additionally, if they are focussing on skill development, I’d be looking more at the assistant coaching staff next season too.

I just don’t think it is as easy as dumping a coach and moving forward with a new guy.

Oke got the Petes out of the depressing years and has managed to ice decent teams. He’s drafted SO much better than the last two GMs. This years TDL was out of character. He has made big trades in the past but none of them have impacted the seasons ahead in a negative way.

Wilson on the other hand is likely gone. Underachievement since he arrived imo.

 

[User13452]

Oke got the Petes out of the depressing years and has managed to ice decent teams. He’s drafted SO much better than the last two GMs. This years TDL was out of character. He has made big trades in the past but none of them have impacted the seasons ahead in a negative way.

Wilson on the other hand is likely gone. Underachievement since he arrived imo.

You have to pick and choose your years when you want to go for it. The difference is they chose to go for it this year and usually when you do that you’re in the top half of the league but now they are battling with teams who sold off players. He’s been pretty conservative most years but this was the right year to go for it considering how many guys aren’t returning next year

 

[snipes29]

Team is losing with at least 10 big time players. Players are getting less talented as the season goes on. They’re teenagers mostly. Losing like this is on the coaches.

Totally

What does it say that Lardis and Panwar are superstars for Hamilton and Hayes and White are "fine" for Peterborough?

Look behind the bench?

Every one has the same oppinion

 

[snipes29]

You think Dave Pogue, Dave Lorentz, Rod McGillis etc were telling them to go all in? It's possible but I think Oke and Wilson collectively decided this.

And going all in was not a bad thing at all especially acquiring the names we did, its just tainted right now because of this current play

It came from Oke and Wilson was told at start of year stop trying to put it on the executive?

Do you mean Wilson? I don’t think Oke (GM) has been that bad. I wasn’t a huge fan of the deadline this year and it was out of character but I don’t think he should be fired for it.

Always defending Oke? Real strange explain yourself? Lol

 

[Section5Petes]

It came from Oke and Wilson was told at start of year stop trying to put it on the executive?

I said that Oke and Wilson decided to go all in. I was reframing what someone else asked