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Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Season Thread (Part 3)

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OMG67 said:
I was referencing their streaky nature. Weak Eastern and Northern trips. Not great against the stronger competition. Losses to London twice and Ottawa twice since the deadline.

The top 5 or 6 teams are generally winning games post deadline, as they should. A lot of the competition is weak after sell offs. Kitchener and Peterborough are the two deadline buyer teams that have been average. The other buyers are well above .500 post deadline.

With Sarnia’s acquisitions, I’d have assumed they’d have gained a little better against the top teams if in fact some suggest they are the playoff team to beat in the West.

Ottawa is 13-2-3 over their last 18 games. I’m not confusing Sarnia with Ottawa.
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Sarnia is 16-5-2 since the deadline. Vs LDN (x4), NB (x2), KIT (x2), OTT (x2), WSR, PBO they went 8-2-2 outscoring those teams 52-31. 3 of the 4 losses were by 1 goal, the other by 2 where the 2nd came w/1 minute left. Also, 8-0-2 in their last 10. Best in the league.

In 8 of those 12 games they kept the opposing team to 2 or less goals. They became weak trips because like a lot of the good teams they mailed in/overlooked games vs SSM/SBY/KGN which happens as maddening as it can be lol. They've had 0 issue stacking up with the other elite teams.

Now, I'm not saying we are the best haha. I think there's a handful of teams incredibly close. Special teams, goaltending may be the only differences between them. Just think your under selling us a bit which is understandable because it's Sarnia, but we've been damn good.
 
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Sarnia is 16-5-2 since the deadline. Vs LDN (x4), NB (x2), KIT (x2), OTT (x2), WSR, PBO they went 8-2-2 outscoring those teams 52-31. 3 of the 4 losses were by 1 goal, the other by 2 where the 2nd came w/1 minute left.

In 8 of those 12 games they kept the opposing team to 2 or less goals. They became weak trips because like a lot of the good teams they mailed in/overlooked games vs SSM/SBY/KGN which happens as maddening as it can be lol. They've had 0 issue stacking up with the other elite teams.
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You’d be padding the stats adding Kitchener and Peterborough in that mix. 5-2-2 would be more reasonable. Take the top 3 in each conference. There is a decent gap between 3 and 4 seeds on both sides.

For comparative purposes
London 5-5-0
Windsor 2-3-2
North Bay 3-2-1
Barrie 0-4-0
Ottawa 5-0-1

Petes 2-2 against those 6 teams.

Upon further review, Sarnia compares very well! Must just be those two roadies that made it look worse than it actually is. Barrie is disappointing but only four games against top competition since the deadline? Easy stretch for them. London with 10 big games since the deadline. That’s a lot!
 
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StingUpdates said:
Sarnia is 16-5-2 since the deadline. Vs LDN (x4), NB (x2), KIT (x2), OTT (x2), WSR, PBO they went 8-2-2 outscoring those teams 52-31. 3 of the 4 losses were by 1 goal, the other by 2 where the 2nd came w/1 minute left. Also, 8-0-2 in their last 10. Best in the league.

In 8 of those 12 games they kept the opposing team to 2 or less goals. They became weak trips because like a lot of the good teams they mailed in/overlooked games vs SSM/SBY/KGN which happens as maddening as it can be lol. They've had 0 issue stacking up with the other elite teams.

Now, I'm not saying we are the best haha. I think there's a handful of teams incredibly close. Special teams, goaltending may be the only differences between them. Just think your under selling us a bit which is understandable because it's Sarnia, but we've been damn good.
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Totally agree just said everyone is over looking Sarnia perhaps the best team
 
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OMG67 said:
You’d be padding the stats adding Kitchener and Peterborough in that mix. 5-2-2 would be more reasonable. Take the top 3 in each conference. There is a decent gap between 3 and 4 seeds on both sides.

For comparative purposes
London 5-5-0
Windsor 2-3-2
North Bay 3-2-1
Barrie 0-4-0
Ottawa 5-0-1

Petes 2-2 against those 6 teams.

Upon further review, Sarnia compares very well! Must just be those two roadies that made it look worse than it actually is. Barrie is disappointing but only four games against top competition since the deadline? Easy stretch for them. London with 10 big games since the deadline. That’s a lot!
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I would not be surprised by a couple of first round ‘upsets’ in the west. My playoff tiers:
Sarnia, NB
Barrie
Windsor, Peterborough
London, Ottawa
Kitchener, Flint
Guelph, OS, Hamilton
 
dirty12 said:
I would not be surprised by a couple of first round ‘upsets’ in the west. My playoff tiers:
Sarnia, NB
Barrie
Windsor, Peterborough
London, Ottawa
Kitchener, Flint
Guelph, OS, Hamilton
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I honestly would. I do think FLT, GUE, KIT, MISS, HAM may push teams but i think the top 4 teams on each side are a tier or two above.

The 2nd Round should be insanity. Can't wait for it. We will all be in for a treat.
 
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dirty12 said:
I would not be surprised by a couple of first round ‘upsets’ in the west. My playoff tiers:
Sarnia, NB
Barrie
Windsor, Peterborough
London, Ottawa
Kitchener, Flint
Guelph, OS, Hamilton
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I think each Conference has their own top 3 and that top 3 should advance without much issue. 4-5 matchups wouldn’t really be upsets either way and never usually are. So, unless a team like Kitchener can knock off London or Windsor, I can’t see any upsets there.

In the East, none of the 6th through 8th seeds are lining up to be giant killers. Unless the Petes drop to the 6th seed and knock out Barrie, I can’t see an upset in the East. PEtes have been average but not enough to drop to 6th IMO.

That is assuming injuries don’t take their toll heading into the playoffs.

Boucher is now out for the remainder of the season and playoffs for Ottawa. Not a surprise. Wonky shoulder. Has hardly played the last two seasons. I imagine he is going to be off to hit the knife soon. Rehab in preparation for next season.

If the 4/5 seed takes out the top seed in round two, then that would be an upset on both sides. But a 3 seed knocking out a 2 seed in either conference wouldn’t be considered an upset.

I’m not sure there is as much room for upset as you suggest.
 
I did have ‘upset’ in quotation suggesting upset only by seeding. If it lines up, I think Kitchener could beat London and Flint beat Windsor; and, I would be a bit surprised if either of those teams did not ‘upset’ Saginaw.
I don’t foresee any first round upsets in the east, but Hamilton will have managed splits with the top four post deadline. So while I doubt Hamilton and Ottawa go far in the post season, I will consider the fact that they have beaten most teams when it comes time for playoff picks.
 
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I did have ‘upset’ in quotation suggesting upset only by seeding. If it lines up, I think Kitchener could beat London and Flint beat Windsor; and, I would be a bit surprised if either of those teams did not ‘upset’ Saginaw.
I don’t foresee any first round upsets in the east, but Hamilton will have managed splits with the top four post deadline. So while I doubt Hamilton and Ottawa go far in the post season, I will consider the fact that they have beaten most teams when it comes time for playoff picks.
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Would Saginaw as a 4th seed losing in round one be considered an upset? As much as I bang on the Petes for their lack of consistency, I do think if they finish in the 4-5 seed, them losing in round one would be an upset.
 
OMG67 said:
Would Saginaw as a 4th seed losing in round one be considered an upset? As much as I bang on the Petes for their lack of consistency, I do think if they finish in the 4-5 seed, them losing in round one would be an upset.
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I don't think they would be considered a large upset to be honest. Sold pretty big at the deadline and are riding their success and standings positioning from before the selling when they had a strong record. They are a much different team after the deadline and although they still have some talent, whoever they play will make for an exciting first round matchup. Saginaw is 4th with 68 points and its Guelph (65), Owen Sound (63), Flint (63), Kitchener (62) who round out 5-8 and who could all make things interesting over the final remaining games. Saginaw is obviously gearing up for next season, but could easily be a team that gets hot and I would expect them to win their first round matchup as well and who knows from there.
 
Section5Petes said:
I don't think they would be considered a large upset to be honest. Sold pretty big at the deadline and are riding their success and standings positioning from before the selling when they had a strong record. They are a much different team after the deadline and although they still have some talent, whoever they play will make for an exciting first round matchup. Saginaw is 4th with 68 points and its Guelph (65), Owen Sound (63), Flint (63), Kitchener (62) who round out 5-8 and who could all make things interesting over the final remaining games. Saginaw is obviously gearing up for next season, but could easily be a team that gets hot and I would expect them to win their first round matchup as well and who knows from there.
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I think it comes down to the health of Misa for them. He’s missed quite a bit of time. Any team missing a dynamic player like him and trades away a dynamic player like Mintyukov becomes highly diminished from a capability perspective.

If Misa is back and Kitchener moves into 5th, it would be a fun series and Kitchener may be the favourite. As much as we poke fun at them a bit, if they rise up to 5th, they’ll have completed a very strong finish and go into the playoffs on a high. Considering they added and Saginaw sold off, Kitchener would be the favourite.

Kitchener is probably the one team we can look at as the potential spoiler. I’m not sure we can say the same about Flint, Guelph, Hamilton, or Mississauga. If Kitchener were to knock off one of the top 3, it would be an upset but not potentially unforeseen or not considered. If there are better odds on OHL first round series, you’d have to think that the series with Kitchener in it would be slighter odds than the one with OS in it.
 
I also wouldn't be surprised to see a few upsets and scares in round 1 of the playoffs in the East. I would not rule out any of Hamilton, Sudbury or Oshawa upsetting a top team or going out in 7 games. For some reason though Mississauga is not a team that I believe can upset any of the top 4.
 
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Two absolute must win games both against Kingston tonight and tomorrow. Kingston is on a 10 game losing streak but they always seem to play us very competitively. We are the better team and have come out ready to play, this is go time
 
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Two absolute must win games both against Kingston tonight and tomorrow. Kingston is on a 10 game losing streak but they always seem to play us very competitively. We are the better team and have come out ready to play, this is go time
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I will say that Kingston played really hard on Friday vs Ottawa. They were skating and pressing. No quit in them at all. I was surprised. I hadn’t seen them play like that this season. And they are getting sold goaltending. It was a really tight game until the 3rd when Ottawa finally managed to break it open. Ottawa was outshooting them quite a lot but Kingston was really eliminating time and space effectively and limiting the quality chances.

I know they are on a long losing skid but their game Friday didn’t look like a team that had lost 8 in a row. I didn’t catch the Saginaw game on the Sunday so maybe that game was a one off.
 
OMG67 said:
I will say that Kingston played really hard on Friday vs Ottawa. They were skating and pressing. No quit in them at all. I was surprised. I hadn’t seen them play like that this season. And they are getting sold goaltending. It was a really tight game until the 3rd when Ottawa finally managed to break it open. Ottawa was outshooting them quite a lot but Kingston was really eliminating time and space effectively and limiting the quality chances.

I know they are on a long losing skid but their game Friday didn’t look like a team that had lost 8 in a row. I didn’t catch the Saginaw game on the Sunday so maybe that game was a one off.
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And that’s usually the only team that the Petes seem to face. Whether they’re on a 10 game losing or winning streak I’m always relatively nervous to play them and I don’t expect it to be any different tonight. Wont be surprised with either result
 
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And that’s usually the only team that the Petes seem to face. Whether they’re on a 10 game losing or winning streak I’m always relatively nervous to play them and I don’t expect it to be any different tonight. Wont be surprised with either result
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That’s somewhat unfortunate. I’ve seen them roll over and play dead the whole season against Ottawa then I saw what I saw on Friday and was like, “Where the hell did this team come from?” It was quite interesting to say the least. If Kingston were to muster that type of effort 68 games, they’d have a much better record. That is for certain!
 
OMG67 said:
That’s somewhat unfortunate. I’ve seen them roll over and play dead the whole season against Ottawa then I saw what I saw on Friday and was like, “Where the hell did this team come from?” It was quite interesting to say the least. If Kingston were to muster that type of effort 68 games, they’d have a much better record. That is for certain!
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They seem to pick and choose who they play hard against and the Petes seem to be one of them. We still usually squeak out the win but aside from the 3-0 petes win a few weeks ago, all the other games go down to the wire
 
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