Rumor: Peter Chiarelli is not done?

[zar]

Muh center depth and muh kids.... While the playoff NHL teams are stacking allstar blueliners.

Great blue line = Guaranteed playoffs. No blueline = no playoffs.

CORRECT!

But no offense = another early playoff exit

Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.

SO WRONG!

Oiler fans are projecting alot for Klefbom based on a small sample size of games, also hero charts aren't everything, if he had to do what Suter does he'd get his lunch eaten

CORRECT! ... but a bit exaggerated. We are hoping Klefbom can be 75% of the Dman Suter is. I think Klef is very good and could/should be a first pairing D (I'm not saying a top 15 in the NHL), but he won't earn this value until he stays healthy and does this for a full year in the NHL.

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[Agent Zuuuub]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

 

[plikestechno]

He just hasn't played a whole season but Klefbom's better than a lot of guys his age.

If he can ever play a whole season he will arrive in more people's eyes.

 

[Jephman]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

Not generally no. We see him as a young defenseman who has had huge setbacks but remains a 2nd pairing guy with upside. Most don't see him as a #1 guy but likely a #2 in the future.

 

[FightingIrish17]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

I think he's extremely underrated, Bob McKenzie compared him to OEL the other day (obviously not as good). Clearly Klefbom isn't as good as Suter, but I would say he'd be Minnesota's 2nd or 3rd best D (close with Spurgeon). If Oilers fans overrate anyone it is Nurse - based on potential. Klefbom's metrics are phenomenal for a team that was absolute garbage defensively, and in the Oilers games I've watched, he looks legit. #2/3 D imo.

 

[McFlyingV]

I think he's extremely underrated, Bob McKenzie compared him to OEL the other day (obviously not as good). Clearly Klefbom isn't as good as Suter, but I would say he'd be Minnesota's 2nd or 3rd best D (close with Spurgeon). If Oilers fans overrate anyone it is Nurse - based on potential. Klefbom's metrics are phenomenal for a team that was absolute garbage defensively, and in the Oilers games I've watched, he looks legit. #2/3 D imo.

Good post. Anyone who watches Klefbom knows he's a good D and its hysterical when people bash him on this site because its obvious they've never watched him. I'd agree with Nurse but I think some Oilers fans have soured on him a bit because he struggled as a rookie playing way too many minutes due to injuries. Nurse is still extremely raw and has some very good tools its just a matter of if he can put it together or not.

 

[tony d]

If I'm Edmonton I'm definitely looking at tyson Barrie. Larsson's a good pickup but they need another top 4 defenseman.

 

[Spurgeon]

I think he's extremely underrated, Bob McKenzie compared him to OEL the other day (obviously not as good). Clearly Klefbom isn't as good as Suter, but I would say he'd be Minnesota's 2nd or 3rd best D (close with Spurgeon). If Oilers fans overrate anyone it is Nurse - based on potential. Klefbom's metrics are phenomenal for a team that was absolute garbage defensively, and in the Oilers games I've watched, he looks legit. #2/3 D imo.

I'd take 5 of our defensemen over him, personally. Don't think he comes close to Spurgeon. I think he's a good defenseman, but Brodin is better and Brodin is probably our #4 defenseman. He's not very far from Scandella, Brodin, or Dumba (better at defense than him though) but we're just a team that's stacked on D, whereas the Oilers are stacked down the middle.

 

[nickschultzfan]

I'd take 5 of our defensemen over him, personally. Don't think he comes close to Spurgeon. I think he's a good defenseman, but Brodin is better and Brodin is probably our #4 defenseman. He's not very far from Scandella, Brodin, or Dumba (better at defense than him though) but we're just a team that's stacked on D, whereas the Oilers are stacked down the middle.

Agreed. And that's really not a knock on Klefbom but more a perception gap between Wild and Oiler fans. The Wild just have a great blue line (with cap forwards who can't finish).

Which is why all those trade proposals go so well.

 

[gwh]

LHD Klefbom is a fantastic prospect, but outside top4 in a playoff team.

Would play him 6th D over Reilly in Wild. Behind Suter-Spurgeon-Scandella-Brodin-Dumba-(Klef)-Reilly-Folin.

Dumba over Kelff could be an interesting debate.

 

[McBooya42]

LHD Klefbom is a fantastic prospect, but outside top4 in a playoff team.

Would play him 6th D over Reilly in Wild. Behind Suter-Spurgeon-Scandella-Brodin-Dumba-(Klef)-Reilly-Folin.

Dumba over Kelff could be an interesting debate.

You still talking like you know ANYTHING about Klefbom?? Probably best to stop the bleeding and walk away, don't you think?

 

[57special]

He just hasn't played a whole season but Klefbom's better than a lot of guys his age.

If he can ever play a whole season he will arrive in more people's eyes.

And I didn't work a lot this year, but if I did I would've made more money than most on my street. You know what? My bank, and landlord don't give a damn.

You've got to do it, and prove it, year after year.

Staying on the ice is kind of important. Like, really important. Like, really, really important. Talk to us again in a year or two when he has put up seasons where he plays 70-75 + games...who knows, maybe even some playoff games?

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

Joe Sakic has been pretty open, and has done exactly what he said he was gonna do this off season. Right or wrong. I'm sure he did his due diligence. I don't think Joe has any interest in what's being offered. Hopefully we can lock Barrie up.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I'd take 5 of our defensemen over him, personally. Don't think he comes close to Spurgeon. I think he's a good defenseman, but Brodin is better and Brodin is probably our #4 defenseman. He's not very far from Scandella, Brodin, or Dumba (better at defense than him though) but we're just a team that's stacked on D, whereas the Oilers are stacked down the middle.

Homer alert!

 

[AslanRH]

Homer alert!

Outside of the Dumba part, I don't think he's that far off. Klef projects to be better than a couple of those players listed ahead of him, but I'm not sure he is clearly ahead of them yet.

He definitely needs a solid 70+ game season to establish himself and then people will have a better sense of what he can do.

 

[CdnFan]

I still think IF the priority is on winning thia year that Chia should be on phone with Toronto trying to build deal around Nurse for Gardiner. Not sure if Lou would be interested given how dramatically Gardiner improved last year but Gardiner on the Oilers would immediately make them a better team

 

[Aerchon]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

Oiler fan here and I think it's safe to say Klefbom is the number one most overrated player by its fan base.

However I will say that Klefboms last ten to 15 games before he got injured last year he was phenomenal. Absolutely looked like it had just finally clicked and he was starting dominate in both ends of the ice against high quality of competition.

Incredibly small sample size tho and outside that bit has shown nothing but Oilers fans favorite attributes "potential and a good toolset".

I think Chiarelli is done making any more big moves. He is capped out and knows it. He has to hit the bargin bin for short term and or small money. Pick up a right shooting pp specialist for cents on the dollar. Any trade involving one of our big forwards would weaken our offense a bit too much. And banking on Puli to step in and produce in a top 6 role would be a mistake.

Klefbom Larson is going to be a great top 4 pairing, if not next year then the following one. I have no doubt about that.

Sekera is incredibly under rated and when paired with Fayne at the end of the year was a solid mid pairing group. They will be able to help take the load off Klef/Lar at least a bit.

Davidson was just flat out shockingly good last year and if plays as well this year will anchor that bottom pairing with pretty much anyone on his flank.

The Oilers defense, if healthy this year, will be considerably better than last year and while not great... Or even good... Should finally no longer be a glaring weakness. With our very solid group of forwards and some good systems play that should be enough to get us into the playoff conversation.

 

[Psychoil]

I still think IF the priority is on winning thia year that Chia should be on phone with Toronto trying to build deal around Nurse for Gardiner. Not sure if Lou would be interested given how dramatically Gardiner improved last year but Gardiner on the Oilers would immediately make them a better team

I'm sure he would but not for nurse. Don't be ridiculous

 

[Pointteen]

I still think IF the priority is on winning thia year that Chia should be on phone with Toronto trying to build deal around Nurse for Gardiner. Not sure if Lou would be interested given how dramatically Gardiner improved last year but Gardiner on the Oilers would immediately make them a better team

I don't think Gardiner can justify trading Nurse. Chia views him as extremely valuable. As do we the fans.

 

[JarvisFunk]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

He's sorta underrated by everyone else in the NHL more like.

 

[Bilbo11]

Oiler are closer than people give them credit for

If you look back at last season the Oilers lost 43 games. Of those 43 games 23 were by 1 goal. How many of you think that they have improved enough to convert 11 of those 23 into wins? That would have given the Oilers the last playoff spot. Now let's dream a little more. If the oilers improve enough to convert 20 of the 23. That would have given them the second best after the Caps. This is after only looking at their 1 goal losses.

 

[J22*]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

Sorta?

I think he's extremely underrated, Bob McKenzie compared him to OEL the other day (obviously not as good). Clearly Klefbom isn't as good as Suter, but I would say he'd be Minnesota's 2nd or 3rd best D (close with Spurgeon). If Oilers fans overrate anyone it is Nurse - based on potential. Klefbom's metrics are phenomenal for a team that was absolute garbage defensively, and in the Oilers games I've watched, he looks legit. #2/3 D imo.

These are prime examples is why people think Klefbom might be sorta overrated.

Homer alert!

This is the best post of the thread.

Outside of the Dumba part, I don't think he's that far off. Klef projects to be better than a couple of those players listed ahead of him, but I'm not sure he is clearly ahead of them yet.

He definitely needs a solid 70+ game season to establish himself and then people will have a better sense of what he can do.

Finally, a voice of reason. Too bad it had to be an Aves fan

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Oiler fan here and I think it's safe to say Klefbom is the number one most overrated player by its fan base.

However I will say that Klefboms last ten to 15 games before he got injured last year he was phenomenal. Absolutely looked like it had just finally clicked and he was starting dominate in both ends of the ice against high quality of competition.

Incredibly small sample size tho and outside that bit has shown nothing but Oilers fans favorite attributes "potential and a good toolset".

I think Chiarelli is done making any more big moves. He is capped out and knows it. He has to hit the bargin bin for short term and or small money. Pick up a right shooting pp specialist for cents on the dollar. Any trade involving one of our big forwards would weaken our offense a bit too much. And banking on Puli to step in and produce in a top 6 role would be a mistake.

Klefbom Larson is going to be a great top 4 pairing, if not next year then the following one. I have no doubt about that.

Sekera is incredibly under rated and when paired with Fayne at the end of the year was a solid mid pairing group. They will be able to help take the load off Klef/Lar at least a bit.

Davidson was just flat out shockingly good last year and if plays as well this year will anchor that bottom pairing with pretty much anyone on his flank.

The Oilers defense, if healthy this year, will be considerably better than last year and while not great... Or even good... Should finally no longer be a glaring weakness. With our very solid group of forwards and some good systems play that should be enough to get us into the playoff conversation.

I don't think so at all...whether its today, tomorrow or next month I think Chia gets another PP defenseman the Oilers desperately need
probably moving out either RNH or Eberle

 

[yababy]

Klefbom is sorta overrated by oiler fans huh?

And NHL GMs. I think half of them are trying to get him included in some kind of deal.

 

[WaitingForUser]

And NHL GMs. I think half of them are trying to get him included in some kind of deal.

If this is true then wouldn't that tell you something about how he is viewed by NHL GM's?