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McFlyingV

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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Did you just say Klefbom looked like a 50/50 AHL player in December? Lol alright then. Got any stats to back that up since you obviously didn't watch a single game?
 

Psychoil

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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I spit my drink out reading this! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 

North

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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Are you talking about Davidson?

If you actually are talking about Klefbom then I know to tune you out.
 
EdmFlyersfan

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Yeah, I can't wait until the season starts and the fans start to see this; they will go through these stages:

1) Larsson is still getting adjusted to the coaching system
2) Larsson is not used to the pairing; he's pairing has no chemistry
3) Larsson's coach is not using him correctly
4) Larsson is being overexposed, playing too man minutes
5) Larsson is only 23



gordie said:
Larsson isn't that good and Edmonton fans will find that out very soon. The rest of your comparisons are ridiculous.:shakehead
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CantHaveTkachev

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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you're right, an overpaid #4 defenseman is the difference between 29th and a playoff spot :laugh:
we have a enough of those thanks
 
karnige

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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klef? he's not a #1 but he's a damn good dman....... are you sure youre thinking of the right guy?
 
underdog

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Guy calls Klef a 50-50 AHL player and he doesn't back up that statement? Our season went from bad to worse when he was out and McDavid coming back couldn't even right the ship. There is a reason why he was extended long term.
 
Bryanbryoil

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gwh said:
Maybe. If Klefbom doesn't pan out, then Oil has 2 actual Dmen. 2, not 8.

Still missing one allstar/olympian and 2nd pair RD. Klef is far from Hedman, and playing him 24min a night is symptom of team strength. We are talking about a kid that looked 50/50 AHL player in December.

Missing on Demers was huge. Now it is a forced trade and the whole league knows it.
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This is the most ignorant statement that I have ever read on HF, do you even know who Klefbom is? Outside of Suter I woudn't deal him for any defenseman on the Wild so I guess your D is full of AHLers.
 

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This is the most ignorant statement that I have ever read on HF, do you even know who Klefbom is? Outside of Suter I woudn't deal him for any defenseman on the Wild so I guess your D is full of AHLers.
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This is pure gold. FYI- Klefbom would play about 9 minutes a night on the Wild roster.
 
Bryanbryoil

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Pony Boy said:
This is pure gold. FYI- Klefbom would play about 9 minutes a night on the Wild roster.
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While defensive train wreck Dumba takes a regular shift? :laugh: SuterI get, I could see why you may say Spurgeon as well, Brodin is overrated as hell and has no offensive element to his game and Dumba is a more physical Justin Schultz with a slapper.
 

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No stat has value according to hfboards unless it helps their argument but funny enough the good players tend to have good stats hmmm wonder why...:help:
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Show me a person who finds value in Hero charts for dmen and I will show you a person that doesn't understand how to interpret Statistics. Here's a fun little exercise for you though. Take your personal top 5 dmen in the league, and then compare their hero charts to Klefbom. Then ask yourself if you honestly believe that Klefbom is in that class?


Bryanbryoil said:
While defensive train wreck Dumba takes a regular shift? :laugh: SuterI get, I could see why you may say Spurgeon as well, Brodin is overrated as hell and has no offensive element to his game and Dumba is a more physical Justin Schultz with a slapper.
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Actually, I was giving Klefbom the benefit of the doubt that he would play in front of Dumba. That still leaves Suter, Spurgeon, Scandella, and Brodin ahead of him quite easily. Suter plays damn near 30 minutes a game and Scandella plays over 20.
 
Samuel Culper III

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People have gotten so accustomed to being able to bash Oilers that now when they're totally ignorant and wrong about a player they don't even realize it. I have despised the Oilers management's squandering of talent and poor building these several years and am in no way an Oiler fan but Klefbom would absolutely play 20 minutes in Minnesota on the second pair with Brodin.
 

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People have gotten so accustomed to being able to bash Oilers that now when they're totally ignorant and wrong about a player they don't even realize it. I have despised the Oilers management's squandering of talent and poor building these several years and am in no way an Oiler fan but Klefbom would absolutely play 20 minutes in Minnesota on the second pair with Brodin.
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In 30 games you were able to discern that Klefbom is a better defenseman than Marco Scandella? You can't be serious?
 
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EdmFlyersfan said:
Yeah, I can't wait until the season starts and the fans start to see this; they will go through these stages:

1) Larsson is still getting adjusted to the coaching system
2) Larsson is not used to the pairing; he's pairing has no chemistry
3) Larsson's coach is not using him correctly
4) Larsson is being overexposed, playing too man minutes
5) Larsson is only 23
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Given the gamble that it was, in the sense he isn't a bonafide #1 yet and may never be, but should be a quality 2-3 shutdown D who can move the puck and play big minutes, those are perfectly reasonable explanations.

I fully expect it to take at least 20 games for him to get comfortable (at least), it's not even certain who his D partner is going to be although one would expect it to be Klefbom, which could help accelerate the adjustment period if they end up meshing well together. In terms of coaching, I doubt that to really be a problem but if he doesn't get a sniff of the first unit PP that will be on coaching, most notably the PP coach Jay Woodcroft who was a ****ing train wreck last year.

If injuries hit early and he's one of their healthy guys, I can easily see him being played too much, because ultimately this has been the case the past 5+ years, guys playing in spots way over their heads, because of injuries and lack of quality players.

And it's true, he is only 23. Unless he gets slaughtered, I hold out judgment on the player until after the season is over.

Quite honestly I don't expect it to be too much of a problem though. I think the Klef-Larsson pairing could be big time IF Klef can stay healthy. Big ask, but I think it can be done. Be nice for them to add Tyson Barrie though.
 
KaseMeOutside

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Oiler fans are projecting alot for Klefbom based on a small sample size of games, also hero charts aren't everything, if he had to do what Suter does he'd get his lunch eaten
 
MikeModano9

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Pony Boy said:
That's nice. Is this where I reply with something witty about Oiler fans being authorities on great defensemen? I could point to the hundreds of posts I read a few years ago about how Martin Marincin was already a top 4 dman with top pairing potential.
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Played top line in Toronto last year. lol
 
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