Per Friedman: Coyotes players told team moving to Utah starting next season (Mod warning post #50)

[Zerotonine]

I'm a Sabres fan who moved to Utah a few years ago. Excited to jump on the new team bandwagon. My vote for a name is the Utah Pioneers. For that mountain west exploring the great wild outdoors spirit.

I'm hoping for the yeti lololol the jerseys and logo could b phenomenal. But that pioneers doesn't have a bad look to it

 

[WaW]

Pretty sure the Coyotes gate revenues were being factored into the cap calculation, which is objectively terrible for everyone else. Therefore, good that this is happening.

 

[lakeshirts37]

salt lake city will be having problems within 10-12 years.. should of been quebec with an arena already waiting. doesn't even kansas city also have a arena ready waiting?

and this is based on what? A QC team would be a financial drain on the league. SLC is a booming city with an owner looking to spend to the cap and be aggressive. They will be successful.

 

[missionAvs]

Feel bad for the Yotes fans that have stuck it through for all these years but this was a long time coming IMO. At least the team isn't moving to the other end of the continent. I wonder if a lot of their fans will follow or if they'll start following another team.

 

[Space umpire]

The Black Hawks were competitive and popular still for a couple of years after Hull's departure though. The team only became mediocre after 1974, simultaneously the Bulls were becoming fairly established in the same building and there was even a WHA team with cheaper tickets in town for a couple of years, even if Peter Pan did them dirty just when the Black Hawks were starting to suck.

Hawks were better than competitive right after Hull left.
Prior to that EVERY game was SRO. After that tickets were readily available.
Prior to that my dad and uncle (sometimes me too) would leave Saturday morning, drive to Detroit and watch the Wings vs whoever because Hawk tix we’re not available at any price.

 

[serp]

Feel bad for the Yotes fans that have stuck it through for all these years but this was a long time coming IMO. At least the team isn't moving to the other end of the continent. I wonder if a lot of their fans will follow or if they'll start following another team.

Same timezone i guess but still ~600 miles north. Not something you want to travel regularly to just watch a game and then return home again.

 

[Hasbro]

The Avalanche have the old Rocky Mountain Xtreme logo lying around if Utah needs a quick rebrand.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Farewell to some of the finest jerseys in the league. I attended ASU in my youth and had some fine memories of Coyote games, a bit sad to see them go. Too bad it didn't work out, but they had every opportunity.

 

[missionAvs]

Same timezone i guess but still ~600 miles north. Not something you want to travel regularly to just watch a game and then return home again.

Yeah I figure it wouldn't be any different than someone following another team from out of state. Heck, I'm an Avs fan in Florida and have been since they moved to Denver lol.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Could move to Mexico City

CDMX

 

[Derailed75]

Bah gawd!!!! That's Queebec City's music

Unless its the Benny Hill theme no its not QC. For one reason or another its just doesn't seem like the league has any interest in QC

 

[not a troll]

Wow so I guess AM being a billionaire didn’t mean much in the end. It’s almost like they only care about themselves.

 

[DuklaNation]

As Leafs fans, we've been subsidizing them for far too long. Seems like local politics hindered any arena progress. NHL really mishandled this and hard decisions has to be made.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Friedman was one the saying that league was talking about going down this unconventional path. It's basically the Coyotes losing its players while still existing in some kind of limbo, in Arizona. I suppose the point is that the NHL still has a high priority on the Phoenix area and perhaps want the owners to stick around

IMO the only "unconventional" part is the apparent 2-step process for transferring the team. The fact that the Coyotes will "exist in limbo" is irrelevant until/unless a new team lands in the Phoenix area. If a team comes back, it could be the Coyotes. Or the Cactus Wrens. Or the Armadillos. Or whatever. And, it could have the same colors or completely new ones. Whatever the next owner wants.

You can count on one hand the number of markets who could sustain the kind of turmoil Arizona has without huge attendance issues.

The Washington Redskins Football Team Commanders, a longtime staple of the NFL, finally buckled under Dan Snyder's ownership. A franchise with a sellout streak dating back to 1968, that once had a season ticket waiting list at least well into the 5 digits (6 digits if you believed the team), saw that sellout streak finally end (which for years it was being propped up, much like Nebraska's football sellout streak has been) and that waiting list dropped to 0.

That's not because Washington won't support an NFL team. It's that Washington won't support an NFL team run by a narcissistic asshat that lets the team plummet toward the bottom of the league and his only concern is how can I squeeze more money out of everyone else for my own enrichment? If Washington responded like that, it's naive for anyone to think far less established markets with far less established teams would respond better.

 

[sigma six]

This whole saga has been a really shitty thing to drag a fanbase through. I was a Sonics fan so I can imagine their anger over all this, and it's totally justified.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

As Leafs fans, we've been subsidizing them for far too long.

Technically speaking, you and all the other Leafs fans didn't subsidize any other team. The Leafs franchise did.

And to that end, I have ... really bad news for you. The Leafs are still going to be subsidizing other teams in the league even after this. And, you're going to get a discount of exactly $0.00 on all your tickets, merch, concessions and parking after this, because the Leafs are going to pocket whatever savings result from this - which, some of that "savings" will just end up going back into revenue sharing for teams that now need a little more because the bar has shifted a little higher and it might include revenue sharing for some team(s) that was previously over the bar but is now under it.

 

[cptjeff]

run by a narcissistic asshat that lets the team plummet toward the bottom of the league

*Racist narcissistic asshat who sex traffics the cheerleaders*.

The new owner is at least better than that, but the team still sucks.

 

[Omni Owl]

Been racking my brain trying to come up with team names. I don't really see the owners having them play under the Salt Lake City moniker, like the Utah Jazz. SLC has more naming options tho. So far:

Utah Eclipse
Utah Yuccas
Utah Storm
Utah Yellowjackets
Utah Ultra (or Ultraviolet)
Utah Owls
Utah Yeoman

 

[DuklaNation]

Technically speaking, you and all the other Leafs fans didn't subsidize any other team. The Leafs franchise did.

And to that end, I have ... really bad news for you. The Leafs are still going to be subsidizing other teams in the league even after this. And, you're going to get a discount of exactly $0.00 on all your tickets, merch, concessions and parking after this, because the Leafs are going to pocket whatever savings result from this - which, some of that "savings" will just end up going back into revenue sharing for teams that now need a little more because the bar has shifted a little higher and it might include revenue sharing for some team(s) that was previously over the bar but is now under it.

Not a fan of the hard cap / revenue sharing. Technically speaking, that franchise should have went bankrupt long time ago. You can dance around the issue all you want.

 

[hockey20000]

As Leafs fans, we've been subsidizing them for far too long. Seems like local politics hindered any arena progress. NHL really mishandled this and hard decisions has to be made.

ugh why do leafs fans always got to turn everything into being about them jesus dude get out of your bubble

 

[gach]

Canadian players don't want to play in Canada.

Look at the team North of Washington state its the All-American team(Miller, Hughes, Demko, Brock)

So you're saying Americans want to play in Canada but Canadian players don't want to?

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Not a fan of the hard cap / revenue sharing. Technically speaking, that franchise should have went bankrupt long time ago. You can dance around the issue all you want.

1. It doesn't matter if you're a fan of the cap and/or revenue sharing or not, the owners want both of them. Play by the rules that exist, not the ones you wish existed.

2. The franchise did go bankrupt a long time ago. Not even technically speaking.

3. I'm not dancing around anything. I've been pretty open about my thoughts re: the entire situation. The difference is, I recognize how things go in the real world and I operate within those constraints and solution problems accordingly, not come up with pie-in-the-sky ideas that have no chance of ever happening like way too many people want to do.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Been racking my brain trying to come up with team names. I don't really see the owners having them play under the Salt Lake City moniker, like the Utah Jazz. SLC has more naming options tho. So far:

Utah Eclipse
Utah Yuccas
Utah Storm
Utah Yellowjackets
Utah Ultra (or Ultraviolet)
Utah Owls
Utah Yeoman

Utah Sasquatch

 

[serp]

IMO the only "unconventional" part is the apparent 2-step process for transferring the team. The fact that the Coyotes will "exist in limbo" is irrelevant until/unless a new team lands in the Phoenix area. If a team comes back, it could be the Coyotes. Or the Cactus Wrens. Or the Armadillos. Or whatever. And, it could have the same colors or completely new ones. Whatever the next owner wants.


The Washington Redskins Football Team Commanders, a longtime staple of the NFL, finally buckled under Dan Snyder's ownership. A franchise with a sellout streak dating back to 1968, that once had a season ticket waiting list at least well into the 5 digits (6 digits if you believed the team), saw that sellout streak finally end (which for years it was being propped up, much like Nebraska's football sellout streak has been) and that waiting list dropped to 0.

That's not because Washington won't support an NFL team. It's that Washington won't support an NFL team run by a narcissistic asshat that lets the team plummet toward the bottom of the league and his only concern is how can I squeeze more money out of everyone else for my own enrichment? If Washington responded like that, it's naive for anyone to think far less established markets with far less established teams would respond better.

I think the Yotes could've worked looking at the attendance figures in the first couple of years after re-location and comparing it to other franchises that started/re-located at the time . First couple of years the numbers aren't much different than Stars of Avs.

 

[cptjeff]

Been racking my brain trying to come up with team names. I don't really see the owners having them play under the Salt Lake City moniker, like the Utah Jazz. SLC has more naming options tho. So far:

Utah Eclipse
Utah Yuccas
Utah Storm
Utah Yellowjackets
Utah Ultra (or Ultraviolet)
Utah Owls
Utah Yeoman

Salt Lake City/Utah Canyons. You know, the defining feature of the city?