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Barring a massive economic pivot from our dear leaders Canada will be more likely to lose multiple franchises than gain any more.
Things will change October 2025, or hopefully sooner
Barring a massive economic pivot from our dear leaders Canada will be more likely to lose multiple franchises than gain any more.
Sure lolBarring a massive economic pivot from our dear leaders Canada will be more likely to lose multiple franchises than gain any more.
Winnipeg is currently struggling with the long term viability of the market in serious question. And *they* only have a team because the Thrashers were evicted from their arena and Winnipeg was literally the only ownership group ready with an arena to take the team. The NHL was very much not crazy about Winnipeg, either.Nearly the exact same population as Winnipeg.
Bettman and the NHL are not interested in Quebec for a bigger set of reasons, not just population.
I'm a Sabres fan who moved to Utah a few years ago. Excited to jump on the new team bandwagon. My vote for a name is the Utah Pioneers. For that mountain west exploring the great wild outdoors spirit.
LOL thinking PP is going to change the global economy.Things will change October 2025, or hopefully sooner
You lucky sonofa.. how’s it feel to have hope again? I’ve.. I’ve somewhat forgotten, after all these years.
Should’ve been Houston
Secondary market tickets for the last Coyotes game start at $1100 right now
I can still root for the Sabres and the new Utah team (please be Pioneers). Won't be an issue unless we meet in the Cup finals which seems unlikely lol.
Nah, they'll relocate to Houston and Phoenix gets an expansion team.Can't wait for the Jets to relocate to Arizona again.
Your lack of education surprises me.Not one time did I ever see anyone wear Blackhawks merch or talk about the Blackhawks. Biggest fair weather fans in the US (minus Cubs fans up on north side).
Feel free to quote that post when Canada gets its next team. It’s not happening.Sure lol
No one questions the size of the city and surrounding areas. People question the size of the actual "hockey market". I think if you absolutely have to have an arena in a specific part of town to get people to go, you start behind the 8-ball.They would be morons to give up on the market. It's way too large of a market to ignore, especially when they've spent decades building it as a hockey market.
They will give up on the Coyotes, but if and when the arena situation is resolved, the NHL will absolutely return to the Phoenix area, it would idiotic not too.
Yeah that’s why I opened it to all leagues. So that opens up the A’s and Braves off the top of my head. Then plenty of basketball teams.Ahh if that’s the condition, we’re limited to franchises that have moved at least twice, right? Besides WPG/Phoenix/Utah, and KC/COL/NJ, are there any others?
Friedman was one the saying that league was talking about going down this unconventional path. It's basically the Coyotes losing its players while still existing in some kind of limbo, in Arizona. I suppose the point is that the NHL still has a high priority on the Phoenix area and perhaps want the owners to stick aroundChange "Utah" to Winnipeg and "Phoenix" to "Atlanta" and see how that went down. It will very likely work the same way here, with a nuance that the team changes owners in a 2-step process.
And then we're asking why it's a 2-step process, but I suspect that has something to do with money Meruelo may owe the league and the league guaranteeing it gets its money, and/or some requirement that Meruelo can't sell the team to someone intending to relocate it, he has to sell it to the league first. But, I also suspect the reasons why it's a 2-step process at some point in the not-too-distant future.
Winnipeg is currently struggling with the long term viability of the market in serious question. And *they* only have a team because the Thrashers were evicted from their arena and Winnipeg was literally the only ownership group ready with an arena to take the team. The NHL was very much not crazy about Winnipeg, either.
Katie Strands’ article a few years ago more or less shed light on how dark of a turd Murello really is…Not sure if this is true, but sounds like the coyotes owner is about to make bank from selling th team he made a joke of.
f*** Betman and the nhl
The Jets have enough money behind them to take hits during downturns - or even through something unique as COVID and the fallout from it, but it does show the challenges small markets face. When disposable income doesn't go as far as it used to, and fewer people can buy tickets, a smaller universe of customers to draw from becomes a liability. Can Quebec City work as a market? Yeah, there's a way it can, but it needs big, stable, money behind it, a good local TV deal with the French media, and a way to find sustained success on the ice to make up for any challenges they may have in retaining and attracting players. The reality is you can have the most passionate, committed fans, in the world and it's only a small piece of the pie in making professional sports work in 2024.
The Black Hawks were competitive and popular still for a couple of years after Hull's departure though. The team only became mediocre after 1974, simultaneously the Bulls were becoming fairly established in the same building and there was even a WHA team with cheaper tickets in town for a couple of years, even if Peter Pan did them dirty just when the Black Hawks were starting to suck.Your lack of education surprises me.
Here is a bit of history.
1960’s, very early 70’s great crowds, that ends when Hull leaves over 15k a year.
Late 80’s crowds (different generations) are returning.
Mid 90’s, good team, so close. Bill Wirtz promises adding 2 top UFA’s. They sign Gilmour but he is pissed at the cost and refuses to talk to Brett Hull (who wanted to play there).
Again the place is empty.
If you research it, the fans started returning before the team got good in the 2000’s. They returned when Bill Wirtz died and Rocky took over.