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Bad owner destroys team in expansion market, everyone calls [city] a "bad hockey market" rather than actually looking at how the franchise itself was run
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Bad owner destroys team in expansion market, everyone calls [city] a "bad hockey market" rather than actually looking at how the franchise itself was run
This news is a shocking revelation to all. So nothing has happened except NOW we know there is a possibility the Coyotes could move if everything in AZ falls through.
Got it! Glad we know now!
Empoleon8771
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Again, if that was actually the case, why are they talking about giving him 5 year window of bringing back the Coyotes as an expansion team? Why is the NHL trying to make the deal good for him to prevent him from going to court?
Arthur Morgan
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MLSE should buy them and move them to Hamilton or something. cash in on all the Leafs fans that gave up too. could be a gold mine
Fixed it for you.
The rules were not intended to create a contender. They didn't want Vegas to be a bottom-feeder though, obviously. But no one seriously thought the expansion rules would lead to Vegas being a contender out of the gate. Nobody.
It was only the stupidity of GMs gladly handing over high quality players that did that.
Llewzaher
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Actually it’s all the comments from the haters in the forums to the journalists that don’t have their facts straight that create headlines that aren’t true that get to us ..
It’s funny hearing some of the journalists who were all against the Yotes in Arizona are now saying :
This is a great plan , relocating them to SLC , and then bring them back once the arena is built because “ we know hockey can work in AZ it’s a proven fact”
The facts that we know are:
Muerello group is focused on Winn the auction and keeping the team in Arizona. However this is the last chance. If they do not win the auction relocating the team is the only option
So it makes sense that AM and the NHL are both preparing for plan in case it falls through, by discussing an alternative schedule and selling the team.
If the team wins the auction then the puck would drop on the 26 or 27 season. The exact same date had they won the TEMPE vote. Why is it the same date? Because in Tempe they had to spend cash and time to remediate the land because it was a toxic dump.
Here they don’t have to.
Those are the facts , anything else is speculation. Until you hear the Yotes or the NHL say anything different that is where are at.
This date of April 18th is also speculation
Voight
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It was kind of evident after he was outspent by local citizens in Tempe.
Dude, you're a billionaire and couldn't spend more money to lobby people to vote in your favour? Like seriously?
Empoleon8771
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It seems to be much more "if the NHL, Meruelo and Smith can come to an agreement" than "if everything in AZ falls through".
He's a billionaire in the way that Trump is a "billionaire".
Half Clapper
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Based on Pierre Lebrun's twitter post, I think the Yotes are only moving if they lose the auction. This other crap is all for clicks and discussion.
Voight
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This + ownership being aggressive. They've spent money out the wazoo with the goal of winning the cup (mission accomplished) multiple times (TBD). Foleys literally given them a blank check.
Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
Not trolling or anything, but didn’t someone (Kevin Weekes maybe?) tweet out that the Coyotes was looking into private land? Was that not a thing very recently?
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Guardian17
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The NHL needs to transfer the Jets 1.0 history back to Winnipeg and merged with Jets 2.0.
www.sportsnet.ca
NHL, Arizona Coyotes preparing for possible relocation to Utah
The NHL and the Arizona Coyotes are preparing for the possibility of a move to Utah as soon as April 18, multiple sources confirmed Wednesday.
I still don't think it's a good faith argument to say they were handed a top 5 team. A lot of secondary pieces came together to be a top 5 team in the standings and the Knights leveraged a lot of career years and an excess of future assets to build a contending roster. Most of the guys Vegas traded away underperformed at new teams. No one made teams make excessively stupid trades to dump cap or protect certain players (E.g. Theodore to dump Stoner's contract or Marchessault to take Smith instead of other exposed players).
And irrespective of that, it's certainly not Vegas' fault that after 28 years in Arizona, the Coyotes organization hasn't been able to figure out how to put together some sustained on ice success. Like sure, be annoyed at the VGK all you want for getting a great head start but the Yotes fluctuating between a rebuild and barely a bubble playoff team is no one's fault but the Coyotes front office.
Voight
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Would be funny, since Bobby Clarke played junior for the Flin Flon Bombers.
Maybe. Possibly. Potentially not.
I just think the scattershot, click-baiting, social media "reporting" that goes on during these sagas is ridiculous. I've pretty much grown cynical about everything on the interwebs to the point where I'm basically like this to every new "X" posted "news report"...
At the end of the day, if you throw enough crap out there you can claim you knew what was going on all along I suppose.
He's a grifter. He's good at grifting. He has to keep up the grift until he gets paid out.
He's not getting a billion from the NHL if he looks desperate to sell. Meruelo probably will try to milk even more money out of them in court, if given the opportunity. The NHL at this point just wants a clean move to Salt Lake so they'll give him his expansion "deal" that he absolutely will not follow up on.
Yep. Seattle and Vegas are popular right out of the gate. Nashville and Carolina demonstrate that non-traditional markets can be successful. Shows what good ownership can do for you.
Empoleon8771
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I think some Coyotes fans are huffing some hardcore copium in this thread to convince themselves that the Coyotes aren't at risk of being moved. At least based on what has been reported, it seems like the NHL is trying to get Meruelo to sell the Coyotes to Smith, who will then relocate them to Salt Lake City. I don't think Meruelo wants to move the team, I think the NHL is pushing hard to get him to sell the team to the NHL so the NHL can sell it to an owner who will move them. They're trying to make the deal good for Meruelo so he doesn't fight it, either by not selling the team or fighting it in court later.
The NHL flat out does not want to play another 3 years at Mullett Arena and continue to hemorrhage money. At least to me, this seems like the NHL trying to move the Coyotes to a stable market and telling the Meruelo "you'll get a new team once you figure out the arena situation".
The NHL flat out does not want to play another 3 years at Mullett Arena and continue to hemorrhage money. At least to me, this seems like the NHL trying to move the Coyotes to a stable market and telling the Meruelo "you'll get a new team once you figure out the arena situation".
StickShift
In a pickle 🥒
They’ll go the “Minnesota Wild” route and become the “Utah Buzz”
It is the beehive state after all. They have one on their state flag.
Owner already own-zz the Utah Jazz.
When they kill a penalty it would be a buzzkill.
Ok, I’m done.
It is the beehive state after all. They have one on their state flag.
Owner already own-zz the Utah Jazz.
When they kill a penalty it would be a buzzkill.
Ok, I’m done.
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Moving Detroit to the Metro makes no sense, based on geography, or based on rivalries. Neither does moving Pittsburgh to the Atlantic, they should not be separated from Philadelphia, especially in a quasi-divisional playoff format.
If the league expands to 36 teams and adds the markets stated above, the best solution would be to
So, to recap:
Pacific: VAN, CGY, EDM, SEA, VGK, SJS, LAK, ANA, PHX
Central: COL, UTH, DAL, NSH, STL, CHI, WPG, MIN, HOU
Atlantic: DET, TOR, BUF, OTT, MTL, BOS, QUE, TBL, FLA
Metro: NJD, NYI, NYR, PHI, PIT, WSH, CBJ, CAR, ATL
(edited because I forgot about Atlanta, making all that nonsense about moving CAR to the Atlantic totally unnecessary!
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Bettman obviously has a ton of power and clout, but definitely sounds like the other 31 owners (and likely the PA) are sabre rattling about getting this situation out of the ditch, one way or another, and it certainly feels like people want more assurances than 'let's wait until June' for the auction. Probably too much waiting for things out of their control for too long.
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