Roster Moves: Per Agent, Mason Likely Moving on From Flyers

[Flyerfan4life]

And then he outplays our goalies.

100% lock...

its going to happen.

 

[Tripod]

I think Hextall simply didn't feel like dealing with the potential drama of Mason being unhappy with his usage. One less headache.

Yeah, much better to have worse goalies that are fine with being backups.

 

[NYCFlyer]

I can't wait until Mason's term and $$ come in at completely manageable numbers that we could have easily afforded and are likely similar to what we're paying to some other worse goalie. And then it will be acknowledged that he didn't price himself out; they just didn't want him.

I think this goes all the back to the goalie coach firing. Have no idea what the real issue was/is but in one of Hextall's video clips I got the impression there was off ice friction

 

[The Madrigal]

I have no problem with letting Mason and his crappy entitled attitude go. That being said, I'm not sure I am going to like what they do to replace him. He was inconsistent, mentally soft at times, and had a down year, but when he got hot he was darn good. Hextall better have something big up his sleeve and it better not be Bernier, Elliott, or a trade for Mike Smith.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Yeah, much better to have worse goalies that are fine with being backups.

So Mase should be gifted the starters role ?

Unless people have zero faith in Hexys ability to evaluate goalies , there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. I will be shocked if Hexy doesn't have a plan and for whatever reason Mase doesn't fit in his plan.

 

[The Madrigal]

Yeah, much better to have worse goalies that are fine with being backups.

Let's wait and see who the next goalie is before making proclamations like that. Otherwise you need one of these:

 

[The Madrigal]

So Mase should be gifted the starters role ?

Unless people have zero faith in Hexys ability to evaluate goalies , there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. I will be shocked if Hexy doesn't have a plan and for whatever reason Mase doesn't fit in his plan.

Yep, and I am willing to see that plan through before getting upset because on the surface I don't have a problem with letting Mason go. They need to find an adequate replacement though and not someone like Jonathan Bernier.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Yep, and I am willing to see that plan through before getting upset because on the surface I don't have a problem with letting Mason go. They need to find an adequate replacement though and not someone like Jonathan Bernier.

I am nervous tho that whoever we get won't be as good. This appears to be more looking to next year or 2. If I had to guess Mase wanted 4 or more years and Hexy doesn't see Mase as the guy long term so better to get a guy that fits his vision

Would guess he only had Flames as an option for 3 plus year deal.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Have you read the posts in this group? I'm summarizing the obscene dislike of this guy.

No, you're right about the things people are saying. I just don't find the criticism of him that far off-base and ultimately don't think he is worth the hand-wringing. I have a lower opinion of him than you and many others on here and there's every chance that your opinion of him is closer to the truth of it than mine - I don't know. I just don't see him as the answer, so I don't care whether he comes back or not. And I think at the end of the day, regardless of who is at fault (and blame here doesn't matter to me at all - I'm not looking to apportion it because I don't think we know enough to do that) or even how good he really is, the team could use a change back there. But like I said, it's just how I feel about him.

 

[Striiker]

100% lock...

its going to happen.

Just like Vandevelde coming back and next year already being over before it began since Hakstol didn't get fired, right?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

So Mase should be gifted the starters role ?

Unless people have zero faith in Hexys ability to evaluate goalies , there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. I will be shocked if Hexy doesn't have a plan and for whatever reason Mase doesn't fit in his plan.

This is another good and important point - if there's one thing we can be sure of, it is that Hexy will know what he is looking at and looking for in goal. I am going to trust his decision on this even more than I trust him generally.

 

[Tripod]

So Mase should be gifted the starters role ?

Unless people have zero faith in Hexys ability to evaluate goalies , there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. I will be shocked if Hexy doesn't have a plan and for whatever reason Mase doesn't fit in his plan.

Let's wait and see who the next goalie is before making proclamations like that. Otherwise you need one of these:

Really? I am jumping to conclusions....yet Mason has a crappy entitled attitude?

Everyone has turned on Mason for 1 bad season and a playoff where he allowed 3ES goals and was shelled by a Washington PP. Or do people forget how passive our PK was.....then changed to being aggressive when Neuvirth went in.

Neuvirth is getting a pass for his awful year this year, yet Mason is not despite a better year. Neuvirth will rebound, as will Mason. I just don't like the piling on that certain people are doing. I guess they forget Mason was thrust into games where he was not ready to play, playing with a concussion, and having a goalie coach willing to leave the team due to the mistreatment. But that's ignored.

3 good years, 1 poor. Let's hope our next starter is as good. Last 4 years, Mason is tied for 12th in SV%.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

A Bernier/Neuvirth pairing would be hilarious to watch from a safe distance. Bernier would be going 50+ games by default.

 

[Striiker]

Neuvirth is getting a pass??????????

On which board is that happening? Sure as hell isn't this one.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Really? I am jumping to conclusions....yet Mason has a crappy entitled attitude?

Everyone has turned on Mason for 1 bad season and a playoff where he allowed 3ES goals and was shelled by a Washington PP. Or do people forget how passive our PK was.....then changed to being aggressive when Neuvirth went in.

Neuvirth is getting a pass for his awful year this year, yet Mason is not despite a better year. Neuvirth will rebound, as will Mason. I just don't like the piling on that certain people are doing. I guess they forget Mason was thrust into games where he was not ready to play, playing with a concussion, and having a goalie coach willing to leave the team due to the mistreatment. But that's ignored.

3 good years, 1 poor. Let's hope our next starter is as good. Last 4 years, Mason is tied for 12th in SV%.

The starter this upcoming season will almost certainly not be the starter when we are a top team in a year or 2, no different than Mase.

And I don't know of one poster that wants Neuvy as the starter, his contract has no bearing on Mase.

 

[flyersfan018]

So Mase should be gifted the starters role ?

Unless people have zero faith in Hexys ability to evaluate goalies , there is more going on behind the scenes than any of us will ever know. I will be shocked if Hexy doesn't have a plan and for whatever reason Mase doesn't fit in his plan.

Who is gifting him the starting role? Care to rewind to that Flyers/Leafs game in March which Neuvy started?

Anyone with two eyes knew Mason was better last year. It's yet again another misuse of a player.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Who is gifting him the starting role? Care to rewind to that Flyers/Leafs game in March which Neuvy started?

Anyone with two eyes knew Mason was better last year. It's yet again another misuse of a player.

Flyers aren't gifting him anything , but he was pretty clear he didn't want to be a tandem and wanted to be the undisputed starter. Well good luck to him as Flames prob offer that as his only chance.

And no one is saying Neuvy is better than Mase, Neuvy was the one who's years and pay fits into Hexys vision.

 

[Tripod]

The starter this upcoming season will almost certainly not be the starter when we are a top team in a year or 2, no different than Mase.

And I don't know of one poster that wants Neuvy as the starter, his contract has no bearing on Mase.

I have no issue moving on from Mason. But I also see that unless Hextall makes an unexpected ted trade, all the other options out there are worse options.

So instead of re-signing Mason who has given us 3 good years, and one bad as a top 15 goalie, we instead get to sign a worse goalie. Or better yet, we get to trade assets away in hopes of getting a better goalie.

As for Neivirth, my issue was the 2nd year. So now we need to find a trade partner in a year so Stolie is not blocked. Hope he has a good year so he is movable. Another year like this one and we could be stuck with him.

As I said before, my fingers are crossed that Hextall has more magic up his sleeve. We need it. But this won't be determined tonight, so I am off to bed.

 

[Rebels57]

I really want to Stolie in the NHL in 17-18.

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

Maybe Hextall makes a play for Marc-Andre Fleury?

 

[beetee15]

there's something brewing absolutely, he can't go into the offseason just hoping to get a 1b kinda guy

 

[requiredusername]

Mason was just wildly inconsistent. His headline stats looked good but if you compare him to other goaltenders with 40+ starts he was near the bottom.

His .908 sv% looked great but he was 27th out of 32 goaltenders with 40 or more starts. Not good.

15-16 the .918 sv% was 18th out of 29 goalies with 40+ starts.

Here were the monthly sv % numbers from last season. .878 (8 starts), .914, .911, .883, .952 (2starts), .920, .939 (2 starts)

It is all about context.

I am glad he is gone. Mason was never a great goaltender.

Let's be honest, we are getting a stopgap for 3 years or less. Probably less like one of the Stars goaltenders.

Hextall is building for the future and the future means Hart/Sandstom/Marek. Whoever we get is just keeping he seat warm.

 

[lancer247]

Maybe Hextall makes a play for Marc-Andre Fleury?

Varlamov.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Flyers aren't gifting him anything , but he was pretty clear he didn't want to be a tandem and wanted to be the undisputed starter. Well good luck to him as Flames prob offer that as his only chance.

And no one is saying Neuvy is better than Mase, Neuvy was the one who's years and pay fits into Hexys vision.

Yep. I don't think re-signing Mason guarantees you anything in net other than more headaches the first time he goes into a slump and/or Neuvirth gets hot.

Really don't think there's enough of a difference between Mason and other available goalies to make it worth those inevitable headaches. I realize others think he's a significantly better goalie than I do, though.

 

[requiredusername]

Maybe Hextall makes a play for Marc-Andre Fleury?

Fleury only waved is NMC for Vegas so he wants to play there and will be the pick from Pittsburgh.