Salary Cap: Pens Summer Salary Thread: We Hayes Dubas's offseason moves so far

[Turin]

If Sid goes Dubas and FSG both become worse than Hextall in the eyes of the masses. You can’t come back from that, so.. he’s not going anywhere. They’d sooner pay him double his AAV assuming they have any common sense.

 

[SEALBound]

Remember when people thought Kasper Bjorkqvist was gonna be good because he had muscles?

My wife does, lol

 

[BusinessGoose]

I only get Horny for Hornqvist

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

He lives for play off hockey. I think he is in Colorado by January.
Sakic can make the deal, they are a second line center away from truly contending for that 4th Cup.

I'll add this. Dubas and Sullivan combo will never see a play off game in Pittsburg.

Is that a new expansion team or did somebody relocate? and were are they located in California, Florida, Kansas, New Hampshire, Texas or Oklahoma?

Because the city in Western Pennsylvania is Pittsburgh.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Sports these days are more of a Pittsburn feeling than Pittsburgh

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

My wife does, lol

Damn, your wife is ripped.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I hope everyone on the team is LTIR’d by November.

 

[Headshot77]

The sad thing about the direction that Dubas chose is even though I do think it's what's best for the team in the long run it also gives Sullivan immunity. Now that the Pens are rebuilding in all but name there is going to be zero pressure on Sullivan to perform. Dubas clearly doesn't expect anything from this team so there will be no expectations on Sullivan either. If the Pens suck it will be "it's not Sullivan's fault we just didn't give him a good enough roster" and if they're good it will be "see this is why we kept Sully look what a great coach we have".

100%

Personally I think they will keep Sullivan until his contract is up. FSG gas been making some weird moves at the top and I don't think they will want to pay people not to work for them.

This doesn't upset me since I think Sullivan will be a great tank commander

 

[Andy99]

100%

Personally I think they will keep Sullivan until his contract is up. FSG gas been making some weird moves at the top and I don't think they will want to pay people not to work for them.

This doesn't upset me since I think Sullivan will be a great tank commander

It bothers me in that I don’t want our best prospects to be developed by that hack…he’ll have Yager PKing, back checking and failing to use his shot lol

 

[Jacob]

My wife does, lol

The most interesting part was how injury-prone that body was.

 

[Ulf5]

The most interesting part was how injury-prone that body was.

The goalie might've been worse with injuries, can't remember his damn name though.
Lindberg?

 

[The Old Master]

It bothers me in that I don’t want our best prospects to be developed by that hack…he’ll have Yager PKing, back checking and failing to use his shot lol

that's already a part of his game so it's 2 out of 3 before he even gets signed.

 

[Andy99]

that's already a part of his game so it's 2 out of 3 before he even gets signed.

He needs to be first and foremost a goal scorer…with our finishing, he’d be the only one lol

 

[The Old Master]

He needs to be first and foremost a goal scorer…with our finishing, he’d be the only one lol

don't sell him short. the total sum of his parts are what made him a first round pick

 

[Andy99]

don't sell him short. the total sum of his parts are what made him a first round pick

I’m not selling him short at all…we need scoring primarily though…that’s why I want him to make the team

 

[PaulD]

It bothers me in that I don’t want our best prospects to be developed by that hack…he’ll have Yager PKing, back checking and failing to use his shot lol

Sullivan has never shown at anytime is he a coach for or good with
young players, propects , developing.
Last guy you want around during a rebuild

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

The most interesting part was how injury-prone that body was.

Phil Kessel's physique is peak iron man.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Sullivan has never shown at anytime is he a coach for or hood with
young players, propects , developing.
Last guy you want around during a rebuild

Not that Sullivan should still be here but he has brought up quite a few young guys in his first few years.

After Sullivan got here we didn’t really draft well for much to come through until the last few years.

Pittsburgh Penguins Draft History at hockeydb.com

 

[PaulD]

Not that Sullivan should still be here but he has brought up quite a few young guys in his first few years.

After Sullivan got here we didn’t really draft well for much to come through until the last few years.

Pittsburgh Penguins Draft History at hockeydb.com

Didn't think he was particularly good in Boston or Pittsburg with young guys, prospects, special teams, developing .
Over rated coach imo

 

[Turin]

Sullivan has never shown at anytime is he a coach for or hood with
young players, propects , developing.
Last guy you want around during a rebuild

Just not true

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Not that Sullivan should still be here but he has brought up quite a few young guys in his first few years.

For some reason he has lost his respect for the importance of the offensive side of the game since then. He used to balance it more with defense when he arrived. There was more accountability with scoring and deployment.

Now you can get away with murder offensively if you just defend like he asks. Harkins, 2022-23 Carter, McGinn's 26-game pointless streak, Blueger 1 non-ENG in 45 games, etc...

That's why Puustinen didn't get called up in 2022-23 as a bottom-six fixture when we needed depth scoring to save our season, and he was leading Wilkes in scoring. Same thing with other guys who come up and chip in offensively, but get demoted anyway. Ty Smith for example. 4 points in 9 games as a D-man. Even was pretty ok defensively.
Sullivan: "Don't care. Want a stay-at-home D-man for 60% D-zone starts. f*** the PP and the fact that you may be able to help them. Laters. Good luck in Wilkes bud."

 

[BusinessGoose]

I don't like the recent ability of Sullivan to evaluate talent and put them in positions to succeed (this means using people in roles that may not fit your ideal gameplan, because you need to get guys productive reps in the NHL for the future)

He's seemed very scatterbrain over the last few struggle years.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I don't like the recent ability of Sullivan to evaluate talent and put them in positions to succeed (this means using people in roles that may not fit your ideal gameplan, because you need to get guys productive reps in the NHL for the future)

He's seemed very scatterbrain over the last few struggle years.

He has come to the conclusion that as long as they take care of the defensive side of the game, everything else will take care of itself. Everything from his pressers and his actions supports that over the last few years.
Problem is he's wrong and needs to have that belief challenged. It wasn't challenged by Hextall, Reirden or Vellucci.

I hear Quinn has strong opinions and confronts people when there's a problem. He's known Mike 30 years. For people who still have hope for this season, the hope is that Quinn isn't afraid to call out his bullshit and demands what is necessary to get offensive results. If that means hurt feelings, too bad.

 

[66-30-33]

He has come to the conclusion that as long as they take care of the defensive side of the game, everything else will take care of itself. Everything from his pressers and his actions supports that over the last few years.
Problem is he's wrong and needs to have that belief challenged. It wasn't challenged by Hextall, Reirden or Vellucci.

I hear Quinn has strong opinions and confronts people when there's a problem. He's known Mike 30 years. For people who still have hope for this season, the hope is that Quinn isn't afraid to call out his bullshit and demands what is necessary to get offensive results. If that means hurt feelings, too bad.

So basically...he's Rick Tocchet?

 

[Gurglesons]

I just realized if Crosby plays for 4 more years and his 80, 70, 60, 50 he'll be at 1856.

That's puts him at 41.

If he goes to a team where he isn't force to carry. I wonder if he can hit 90 twice. Then have two years of 70.

That puts him at 1916. He's potentially looking at retiring as the 2nd best point producer of all time if he leaves PIT.