Salary Cap: Pens Off Season Thread: Pre Free Agency Shenanigans!

[Kristopher Letang]

Canucks are still over the cap with the buy out I think.

How is that even possible LMAO

 

[Empoleon8771]

Canucks are still over the cap with the buy out I think.

Nah they're at $12 million in cap space with Poolman and Pearson on LTIR. They have a decent amount of cap space right now, but I imagine they go full stupid and pay Orlov $7 million a year to spend most of their cap space.

I still think they'd be interested in moving Garland out to bring in guys that JR/Alvin would want, but his value wouldn't be as low as it would be without an OEL buyout.

 

[Gurglesons]

How is that even possible LMAO

Mikheyev and Poolman were out for the year on LITR. I don't think Pearson comes back, but if Mikheyev will and Poolman may.

Looks like @Empoleon8771 is correct tho.

Nah they're at $12 million in cap space with Poolman and Pearson on LTIR. They have a decent amount of cap space right now, but I imagine they go full stupid and pay Orlov $7 million a year to spend most of their cap space.

I still think they'd be interested in moving Garland out to bring in guys that JR/Alvin would want, but his value wouldn't be as low as it would be without an OEL buyout.

I imagine they just dump Myers after he gets his bonus tbh now that I am looking at it.

I bet a team like Florida or Dallas takes him for nothing.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I hope one of the East bubble teams signs OEL.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I imagine they just dump Myers after he gets his bonus tbh now that I am looking at it.

I bet a team like Florida or Dallas takes him for nothing.

I think they keep Myers and just let his deal finish up. I think signing Orlov or Graves to replace OEL and moving Garland to open up an additional $5 million for JR/Alvin to use how they want is probably the route they'll end up going.

Thinking about it, they'll probably trade Garland for next to nothing and then give Bunting a huge deal. That seems to be the Canucks way.

 

[Pens x]

My only ask is that they don't sell futures at all until we see some games. I don't take for granted even a healthy roster to make any waves. Worst scenario possible (I think) is to trade picks/Pickering to bolster the roster from day 1 and the team still sucks. (Not that I think we're holding any blue chips)

Go with whatever you can cobble together for October and we'll see at the midway point.

So you can overpay at the deadline? I hate the notion of limping into the season and have to upgrade during the season. It’s a lazy ass approach.

 

[Ugene Magic]

We have 20m to spend, are short a top 6 W, top 4 D, and a starting G.

If spending 10m of that on L3 is not really a huge deal, Dina's will have had one hell of a summer.

Like I said, you will not fill every hole, but the entire 3rd line is a much, much bigger hole if you don't maximize Granlund.

Guentzel, Crosby, Rakel
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Bunting, Granlund, Killorn
Poehling, Carter, Nylander

Petts, Letang
POJ, __?__
Kulikov, Rutta

Jarry, __?__

Out.... Petry and Desmith and their 8.0 cap hit to fill out the rest of the vacancies through trades/signings.

Sign O'Connor and play him up.
Find a responsible RD.
Waive Ruhwedel.
Sign a depth D-man you can stash in WBS
Sign a vet backup for 1.0

All you need is that RD-man, for now.

Make adjustments as you go.

 

[Pens x]

Like I said, you will not fill every hole, but the entire 3rd line is a much, much bigger hole if you don't maximize Granlund.

Guentzel, Crosby, Rakel
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Bunting, Granlund, Killorn
Poehling, Carter, Nylander

Petts, Letang
POJ, __?__
Kulikov, Rutta

Jarry, __?__

Out.... Petry and Desmith and their 8.0 cap hit to fill out the rest of the vacancies through trades/signings.

Sign O'Connor and play him up.
Find a responsible RD.
Waive Ruhwedel.
Sign a depth D-man you can stash in WBS
Sign a vet backup for 1.0

All you need is that RD-man, for now.

Make adjustments as you go.

Who is taking Petry besides Pixie?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Trading Petry to just go into UFA to find a replacement is a hilariously pointless task.

Oh boy, we'll trade Petry's $6.25 million cap hit just to go pay Scott Mayfield like $5.5 million a year. The top of the UFA class sucks so that's just going to result in players getting paid way too much money in free agency.

 

[PensandCaps]

I have no problem with Granlund in general aside from us having no role for him on our roster, and with our coach passively aggressively playing him at center and on the PK to stick it to GMRH. We could pay Blueger a lot less to not score or get scored against much. We're wasting Granlund's best skill of playmaking with our roster and deployments, and I can't see that changing under Sullivan.

I would hope Dubas would sit down with Sullivan and ask him just how he intends to use Granlund, and if the answer is just "someone has to PK" I'd commence to trading him.

With the terrible FA class this year, if you made Granlund available for essentially free some team would essentially get him as a 2 year FA who is a perfectly competent playmaking top 6 winger and power play contributor.

He's not a a perfectly competent playmaking top 6 wing though. Hasn't been since his Minnesota days. Especially at 5v5.

I mean, he got tons of top 6 ice time in Nashville and did mostly nothing with it.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Trading Petry to just go into UFA to find a replacement is a hilariously pointless task.

Oh boy, we'll trade Petry's $6.25 million cap hit just to go pay Scott Mayfield like $5.5 million a year. The UFA class sucks so that's just going to result in players getting paid way too much money in free agency.

The whole point is to not do something that dumb. Think stop gap until next season.

 

[PensandCaps]

Trading Petry to just go into UFA to find a replacement is a hilariously pointless task.

Oh boy, we'll trade Petry's $6.25 million cap hit just to go pay Scott Mayfield like $5.5 million a year. The top of the UFA class sucks so that's just going to result in players getting paid way too much money in free agency.

Petry was basically a 40 point two way Dman here this past season. I don't understand the hate for him lol. He had some rough stretches at the end but was mostly good on the year.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Petry was basically a 40 point two way Dman here this past season. I don't understand the hate for him lol. He had some rough stretches at the end but was mostly good on the year.

He's old and expensive, which somehow outweighs his on ice results for some people.

The whole point is to not do something that dumb. Think stop gap until next season.

So your defense sucks next year and you're still going with Jarry in net?

That doesn't sound like a sound plan for next year.

 

[Gurglesons]

Like I said, you will not fill every hole, but the entire 3rd line is a much, much bigger hole if you don't maximize Granlund.

Guentzel, Crosby, Rakel
__?__, Malkin, Rust
Bunting, Granlund, Killorn
Poehling, Carter, Nylander

Petts, Letang
POJ, __?__
Kulikov, Rutta

Jarry, __?__

Out.... Petry and Desmith and their 8.0 cap hit to fill out the rest of the vacancies through trades/signings.

Sign O'Connor and play him up.
Find a responsible RD.
Waive Ruhwedel.
Sign a depth D-man you can stash in WBS
Sign a vet backup for 1.0

All you need is that RD-man, for now.

Make adjustments as you go.

congratulations you made a roster worse and more directionless than empo's

 

[PensandCaps]

congratulations you made a roster worse and more directionless than empo's

Even getting the best bottom 6 wingers in the world would mean nothing with Granlund and Carter as the centres.

You may aswell give up the season if those are your two bottom 6 Cs.

Love how people are like, let's get rid of our best 5v5 Defenseman because he's old.

 

[Ugene Magic]

congratulations you made a roster worse and more directionless than empo's

You have to start somewhere, directionless, as in no more proof then the one I purposed to actually work?

I'm weeding through the tallgrass of despair.

Yeah, I don't see this as much better. 3rd line still stinks. Garland displacing a much better player...

That's just as much directional chaos.

Guentzel-Crosby-Garland
Rakell-Malkin-Rust
Frederic-Kampf-Granlund
O'Connor-Poehling-Carter
Extra C-Nylander

Pettersson-Letang
POJ-Petry
Smith-Rutta
Ruhwedel

 

[KrisLetAngry]

congratulations you made a roster worse and more directionless than empo's

Gurgs can I see a created roster from you. That is fair and let me know about assets traded or gained.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Speaking of old defenseman, I wonder if a Suter for Granlund swap is doable.

I think Suter doesn't really have a spot in Dallas anymore. But I'm not sure if Dallas has a forward spot for Granlund.

Pens do have a hole on LD and the UFA class isn't too encouraging. Grzelcyk is still my priority in a trade though.

 

[Gurglesons]

Gurgs can I see a created roster from you. That is fair and let me know about assets traded or gained.

I've posted many.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Speaking of old defenseman, I wonder if a Suter for Granlund swap is doable.

I think Suter doesn't really have a spot in Dallas anymore. But I'm not sure if Dallas has a forward spot for Granlund.

Pens do have a hole on LD and the UFA class isn't too encouraging. Grzelcyk is still my priority in a trade though.

I think the issue with this is that Suter has a NMC and I'm skeptical he'd waive to leave Dallas, since they look like a prime contender going forward.

I believe their defense going into next year currently sits at something like:

Suter-Heiskanen
Lindell-Miller/Lundkvist
Harley-Haakanpa

I think they'd want to upgrade on Miller, at least from what I've read, but I don't think Harley is ready to step into Suter's role.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Petry was basically a 40 point two way Dman here this past season. I don't understand the hate for him lol. He had some rough stretches at the end but was mostly good on the year.

Except he makes 6.250, was injured with 21 games missed. Older/slower player getting cherry minutes.

While not a detriment, things would be more worth it if he's on the ice at/near maximum capacity.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Gurgs has many of time traded Granlund and the 14th OA together to try and get worse. Not nitpicking, just sayin... We all have a say here or there, doesn't make any of ours any worse on the chaos scale.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Except he makes 6.250, was injured with 21 games missed. Older/slower player getting cherry minutes.

While not a detriment, things would be more worth it if he's on the ice at/near maximum capacity.

I like how you're saying this about Petry as if you can't say the literal exact same thing about Letang.

Letang was worse than Petry last year.

 

[Gurglesons]

Gurgs has many of time traded Granlund and the 14th OA together to try and get worse. Not nitpicking, just sayin... We all have a say here or there, doesn't make any of ours any worse on the chaos scale.

Rather get “worse” with players that fit and have an identity than ice a NHL23 line like Bunting - Granlund - Killorn. 16 mil dollar third line that will look like absolute shit.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I like how you're saying this about Petry as if you can't say the literal exact same thing about Letang.

Letang was worse than Petry last year.

Letang has a deep entrenched history with this team. Petry?