Salary Cap: Pens Off Season Thread: Pre Free Agency Shenanigans!

[Gurglesons]

Coward who ran once he got into the Twitter.

He comes back every once in awhile.

 

[Empoleon8771]

In 2021-2022, Matheson was one of the best producing defensemen at 5v5. He was 4th in goals/60 and 13th in points/60. Petry was 79th in GF/60 and 34th in points/60 at 5v5. Petry didn't have Matheson's impact at 5v5. Matheson was also better analytically, albeit marginally (+1.53 xGF%Rel for Matheson, -0.96% xGF%Rel for Petry). The only thing Petry brought on Matheson last year was physicality and mildly better defensive results.

When you look at Marino vs Rutta, it's the same exact thing. Rutta was worse defensively and way less productive than Marino. Rutta was only bigger and more physical while giving consistently worse results across the board.

There is no way you can legitimately argue that the defense reshuffling last off-season was anything but a failure. Hextall tried to make the Penguins bigger and more physical, and it dramatically hurt their transition game and resulted in the Penguins getting worse results from the bigger and more physical players.

Neither Petry nor Rutta are bad players, Petry is a middle pair minute eater who's decent at everything and Rutta is a physical bottom pair D. But they objectively got worse by swapping Matheson and Marino for them. That's an objective fact.

 

[HandshakeLine]

He comes back every once in awhile.

They always do.

 

[Gurglesons]

They always do.

My favorite is when he came back last he called out Empo.

GDT: - Penguins Trade Deadline thread: What can we get for 3 packs of gum and a signed hockey puck?

So Kap McGinn Tb Becomes Granlund lolz

forums.hfboards.com

Also Empo is defending the Granlund trade in this post. Forgot that.

 

[Ryder71]

He comes back every once in awhile.

He's a credit to this forum and a man who's image here is as pristine as mine. He, like me is a hero and a role model for this forum. Nothing but respect do I have for him.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I respect the Funk on a nasty dunk.

 

[Gurglesons]

He's a credit to this forum and a man who's image here is as pristine as mine. He, like me is a hero and a role model for this forum. Nothing but respect do I have for him.

I wish I could give you a gold star, but I'm only permitted a like.

 

[Ryder71]

They always do.

Tell me, Would you ever consider taking that same path?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

We should not be mean to Jfresh. He is a former HFPen.

We're mean to you and you're a current HFPen.

 

[DRAGO 18]

Anyone think Dubas trades Rutta and brings in Gudas?

If I could choose between the 2, I pick Gudas. He is a nasty MFer to play against. But he will be more expensive

 

[Gurglesons]

We're mean to you and you're a current HFPen.

Fair enough!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

There’s still time and room for Dubas to turn this around in all fairness, but I do not really get the shrewdness of not buying out Granlund tbh.

Feel free to chaos dunk on me if he gets traded with no retention, but man. I dunno.

Unless they truly believe Granlund is an important piece of whatever roster they're envisioning going forward.

If that's the case, then Dubas better have assurances from Sullivan that he'll stop using Granlund as our Jordan Staal on the third line and actually use him as an offensive weapon.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Because Ron Hextall was an idiot.

All of his moves from the 2022 off-season have backfired miserably.

I’m not saying Poehling being not qualified is a tragedy, I’m saying why was he part of the trade package in the first place if he’s so useless...

Gotta believe Rossi's report that he has a serious health issue is real.

 

[canadianguy77]

The lack of cap space really hurts now. A guy like Geekie solves a lot of problems for us but we don’t have any money to sign him. Makes me want to cry. It gets frustrating.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Being a former HFPen proves that person made a sound decision for his mental health.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Tell me, Would you ever consider taking that same path?

Making money off of people on Twitter? Sure.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Gotta believe Rossi's report that he has a serious health issue is real.

Was it Rossi who reported that? I saw that it was DK who said that.

But yeah, there's too much smoke around Poehling having a potential health issue for me to dismiss it. Really curious to see if we get any information about that in the future.

 

[pistolpete11]

Anyhow, I think we should all resign ourselves to Carter and Granlund being on the 3rd line come opening night now, so it feels less irritating when it inevitably does happen.

Uhhh, I think you mean re-sign.

Right, @AuroraBorealis ?

 

[ChaosAgent]

Unless they truly believe Granlund is an important piece of whatever roster they're envisioning going forward.

If that's the case, then Dubas better have assurances from Sullivan that he'll stop using Granlund as our Jordan Staal on the third line and actually use him as an offensive weapon.

Granlund the weapon is a knife in a gunfight.

There is nothing there.

 

[Gurglesons]

The lack of cap space really hurts now. A guy like Geekie solves a lot of problems for us but we don’t have any money to sign him. Makes me want to cry. It gets frustrating.

We have a ton of cap space?

 

[tom_servo]

Poehling's failing is due to his ailing

So quit the wailing

 

[canadianguy77]

We have a ton of cap space?

I wish. Without Granlund, we could’ve made a move on Geekie no?

 

[Gurglesons]

I wish. Without Granlund, we could’ve made a move on Geekie no?

Geekie was allegedly available at the draft.

We can likely afford him I don't see him getting past 3.5 mil. Probably more likely 2 - 2.75.

 

[Ryder71]

Making money off of people on Twitter? Sure.

But the other aspect of that was to only come back on RARE occasions. Say once a year for example?

 

[Empoleon8771]

The Penguins have a boatload of cap space right now, they have $15 million in cap space with their entire top-6 F and at least 3/4 of their top-4 D signed. The only way they'll run into cap problems is if they decide to bring back both Jarry and Zucker, and that would be "shitty use of cap space" more than "having cap problems".