Post-Game Talk: Pens lose to the worst team in the league

[HandshakeLine]

Well, I mean if your season on the line isn't enough to get you to try to play a decent game, not even a clutch game or anything, I don't know what is.

Mostly while I don't think Rust is a bad deal per se, I'm just annoyed that people keep harping about how clutch he was 7 years ago and he hasn't done shit in terms of clutch play since.

 

[larueskee]

Sometimes it is best to miss the playoffs as it exposes the need for change. This team has not been the same since the 16-17 cup. Thing is the team was making the playoffs. If they sneak in again it might satisfy enough managers to continue down the same path.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Sometimes it is best to miss the playoffs as it exposes the need for change. This team has not been the same since the 16-17 cup. Thing is the team was making the playoffs. If they sneak in again it might satisfy enough managers to continue down the same path.

100%. The problem here, is that we all know nothing is going to change!!! For f*** sakes they gave MS a f***ing extension that only kicks in after next season.... Who the f*** get's an extension 2 seasons before their contract comes to an end. It's just really weird what's going on here....

 

[vodeni]

I woke up this morning and it still feels sureal that they let this one go just like that

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Well, I mean if your season on the line isn't enough to get you to try to play a decent game, not even a clutch game or anything, I don't know what is.

Mostly while I don't think Rust is a bad deal per se, I'm just annoyed that people keep harping about how clutch he was 7 years ago and he hasn't done shit in terms of clutch play since.

Call me crazy, but I'm convinced these guys don't want to play Boston and preferred packing it in. It was 7th or miss, they don't have the balls to go fight the bruins for 4 games and risk getting hurt

 

[Victor Z]

I'm not super concerned with who we replace Sullivan with, so long as we do.

Not Reirden, not Vellucci, not anyone from within the organization.

 

[vodeni]

I'm not super concerned with who we replace Sullivan with, so long as we do. There's plenty of viable candidates out there, and plenty of coaches who would jump at the chance to coach this team.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's gonna happen.

not sure about this...why would anyone want this to be their opportunity, same with good players

 

[vodeni]

Sullivan is a joke and should be ashamed of himself but he is apparently incapable of self-reflection so I'm not holding my breath. So glad I stopped watching months ago. It was obvious where this was heading. Sorry all of you who stayed invested had to suffer through that.

excellent point, the worst part he literally managed to have every brain in that locker room to be the same, repeat the same shit, feel the same shit

 

[Josey Wales]

Letang has always been superfluous (see Hainsey, R., 2017), but not sure what more you want out of Crosby and Malkin at the end of the season after Sullivan relies on them 20+ minutes a night all year long.

I don't expect more out of them they are mid 30's now!! Father Time is still undefeated. It is a young mans league

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Jarry sucks and so far the only thing DeSmith has proven that he could beat during the course of his goaltending career was a woman….

We’re f***ed.

 

[Josey Wales]

not sure about this...why would anyone want this to be their opportunity, same with good players

Hey Anyone would want to come here with the Generational players in their mid 30's & flying down the darkside of the mountain/Sarc

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

You can lump Sullivan into this as well, but with him it's people ignoring the active harm he's doing to the roster to act like he's still good. But I think it really applies to all of the core members, they're just no longer as good as fans think they are.

I don't think you can lump Letang in with Geno and Sid in terms of performance these past couple seasons.

Sid and Geno carried this terrible team this season. Letang is on a tier below them along with Rust if you factor in expectations

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

I will never forgive these f***ing losers.

 

[vodeni]

I don't think you can lump Letang in with Geno and Sid in terms of performance these past couple seasons.

Sid and Geno carried this terrible team this season. Letang is on a tier below them along with Rust if you factor in expectations

hush...don't say that...

 

[Pens x]

Why is worse options the only option? So because having Torts or Sutter might make it just as boring, then I should be okay with Sullivan? That's such an asinine defense for keeping Sullivan around.

"Could be worse" reminds me of everyone who stays in bad relationships because maybe instead of dating a chronic cheater, you might end up with someone who abuses you instead, so stay with the cheater because it could be worse!

How about a novel concept like a coach who isn't a retread from the mid 2000's and will actually try something creative with the way the team plays?

The “could be worse” thinking led to this entire fan base fooling itself that Hextall was a good GM in comparison to JR.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Hawks fan here, Your team is a pathetic bunch of losers that just killed our great chance @ Bedard.

Welcome bud. Please stay and share your thoughts, we all feel the same way.

 

[vodeni]

Honestly, I kind of got a bad feeling when I saw that he put Kulikov in for Friedman,..thats a microcosm of every bad move this coach made this year

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

And on top of that we will lose all our UFA this summer, once again for nothing!!

Thank you Hextall for your brilliant f***ing plan, it's only 4 months we have been telling you to get rid of expiring contracts you f***ing dumbass. Go back to Philly and f*** off

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Would you prefer Torts or Sutter? For all his faults, at least Sullivan recognizes he has stars and leans on them in big moments. He doesn't send Josh Archibald out for a crucial penalty shot instead of Sid or Geno.

I get that there's Sullivan fatigue and I think all options should be on the table for a team that missed the playoffs. Anything that helps retool for the final years of 87, 71 and 58 should be considered, from the front office to the coaching staff to the rest of the roster.

But the hyperbole about Sullivan is a bit much. We all know this team is going to blow chunks at some point. Find your inner peace, @Sidney the Kidney. Embrace the inevitable crash and burn and take the time to enjoy the little moments like Malkin's celebration tonight or Sid's diving back check.

Yea it could be worse, like finding another Montgomery

Oh wait...

 

[vikingGoalie]

good thing we didn't address goal tending because ya know it's fine, and even better how we picked up granlund to help us make the playoffs because that was a good move.

can we now fire Hextall FSG? finally. hasn't he done enough damage?

You all want to blame sullivan, and I agree there is a problem there. But when your goal tender is letting in shots that aren't even shots on net and is in capable of gloving a 40mph shot you won't win anything. Doesn't matter if you are almost 2-1 in offensive zone time or double the other team up with shots and great looks at the net. if someone in the locker room doesn't tell Jarry directly to his face he sucks I'd be disappointed. I know if I was in there now that the season is over i'd tell him he sucks straight to his face.

I was really hoping to be wrong, but I've been saying Jarry has to go after he wilted against the islanders. He showed his true colors then and continues to do so. As i've stated many times, has jarry ever, EVER risen to a big moment? Heck I'd accept just an average goal tender who doesn't actively lose games for us, though with an aging core we need someone who can bail us out from time to time when it really matters.

CDS would have given us a better chance, his problem is he's small and if he loses his net because he's compensating for that it's a gimmie. But at least he is battling and not just looking dumbfonded up at the jumbo tron after each goal against.

 

[Pengu]

There just won't be much of a change in the summer. 70% of the payroll has NTC and the contracts are almost immovable. Hextall might go and some fringe players but nothing else can change. Sully has a lifetime contract and it will cost an absolute fortune to sack.
If 80% isn't exactly the same when next season rolls around I'd be shocked...

I am just hoping Jarry and Dumo are done as penguins...

 

[Josey Wales]

Yea it could be worse, like finding another Montgomery

Oh wait...

YES We could hire a Guy who lost his HC job because of Alcoholism

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Honestly, I kind of got a bad feeling when I saw that he put Kulikov in for Friedman,..thats a microcosm of every bad move this coach made this year

Yea nothing like hitching your wagon to a guy who hasnt played a game in like what, 3 weeks?

I get playing him if he's Letang or Hedman, but we're talking about a 6/7 defender who isn't going to move the needle by his presence. And he proceeds to be out for the 2nd GA, letting the attacker cut right in front of the net.

I've got nothing against Kuk, but he was not put in the best position to succeed. And this coach seems to have a weird fetish for him. Remember he was put in for POJ upon his arrival. Bonkers

YES We could hire a Guy who lost his HC job because of Alcoholism

Seems to have it under control now, huh?

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Jared McCann says "Hi!"

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"No way could the Pens afford him at 5M a year." -All the f***ing losers who defended the move at the time.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Embarrassing.

Hextall and Sullivan reaping what they sowed. Can 'em yesterday.