Post-Game Talk: Pens lose to the worst team in the league

[canadianguy77]

If I remember correctly, E-Rod had a Granlund-like dry spell on the 3rd line last year

90s hockey baby. Only the top 2 lines are allowed to play an offensive style. Bottom 6 is strictly for checking roles.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Go brush your teeth wanker


Edit: Wanker with a nice f***ing truck

You can't ignore it.

Not gonna I giggled when I saw it posted some long ass link.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

I don't know, that's very debatable I guess. But Crosby Captain this team to five successive playoff losses. Not sure what kind of leadership that shows. It's not all on him to be sure, but there were moments in the series he disappeared. If we can lose five successive playoff series with him then not really sure why he needs to stay when we can get assets on a team that clearly needs a change and a fresh start.. he is definitely not the best Captain this team has ever seen, that's just ridiculous.

He also has more Cups as a Captain. It's certainly debateable. Mario did get Bowman fired. Sid did also kinda suck for a few PO's. I'll still personally put a lot of that on Sully Hockey though.

I'll make a poll for it in the off season

 

[george14]

I don't know, that's very debatable I guess. But Crosby Captain this team to five successive playoff losses. Not sure what kind of leadership that shows. It's not all on him to be sure, but there were moments in the series he disappeared. If we can lose five successive playoff series with him then not really sure why he needs to stay when we can get assets on a team that clearly needs a change and a fresh start.. he is definitely not the best Captain this team has ever seen, that's just ridiculous.

This is a classic emotional take after a loss. Crosby is still an elite player that had an amazing all-around year. Not to mention he was dominating last year in the playoffs but was taken out by Trouba

 

[Phil68]

The Crosby and Malkin effect has been such a tricky issue for the pens. The two have been playing all their career at such and elite level, they masked what the team really needed and provided success to coaches who would not be able to make it with any other teams.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't give a shit about other organizations. I want this teams best Captain to retire here. Call it what you want, I like "storybook" endings in sports

No. I don’t care if Crosby’s linemates become Armstrong and Talbot lacing them back up and coming out of retirement. I want him to only ever wear 1 NHL jersey.

I mean, whatever tapes your hockey stick. Can't stay I've given a shit about that kinda stuff since I was a teenager though.

"Doing right by Sid" would've been giving him one last shot at playing on a relevant team and shitcanning the FO and coaches in 2020. But Mario shrugged, and if JR didn't piss his pants and stomp off, he might still be here.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

You can lump Sullivan into this as well, but with him it's people ignoring the active harm he's doing to the roster to act like he's still good. But I think it really applies to all of the core members, they're just no longer as good as fans think they are.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

He also has more Cups as a Captain. It's certainly debateable. Mario did get Bowman fired. Sid did also kinda suck for a few PO's. I'll still personally put a lot of that on Sully Hockey though.

I'll make a poll for it in the off season

Mario also got Zubov traded.
Mario also wanted the core kept together.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

You can't ignore it.
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Not gonna I giggled when I saw it posted some long ass link.

That line of code was your MI5 cover slipping

 

[Ryder71]

This is a classic emotional take after a loss. Crosby is still an elite player that had an amazing all-around year. Not to mention he was dominating last year in the playoffs but was taken out by Trouba

Actually it's very measured response, because we have lost five consecutive playoff series with him as our captain. And in a couple of those series his play left a lot to be desired if we're being completely honest about it. It's a team sport it's not all on him, but there were times in those Series where his play was very underwhelming.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Mario also got Zubov traded.
Mario also wanted the core kept together.

Hence why I think Sid is a better Captain

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

All of my praise has gone to Danton Heinen. Speak for yourself, wanker.

 

[canadianguy77]

I don't know, that's very debatable I guess. But Crosby Captain this team to five successive playoff losses. Not sure what kind of leadership that shows. It's not all on him to be sure, but there were moments in the series he disappeared. If we can lose five successive playoff series with him then not really sure why he needs to stay when we can get assets on a team that clearly needs a change and a fresh start.. he is definitely not the best Captain this team has ever seen, that's just ridiculous.

Who is it then?

 

[the penitent]

There will be a new GM - if there's not, the number of empty seats by Christmas will be staggering. And the new GM's first question to Sully should be "Who are you putting on PP1?" When he answers Letang and Malkin manning the points, the new GM should fire him on the spot, extension and FSG be damned.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

That line of code was your MI5 cover slipping

I've been found out!

It was a long ass line of code for 1 damn image. Stupid Post Gazette.

 

[Ryder71]

Who is it then?

Dangerous Dan frawley!

 

[Honour Over Glory]

There will be a new GM - if there's not, the number of empty seats by Christmas will be staggering. And the new GM's first question to Sully should be "Who are you putting on PP1?" When he answers Letang and Malkin manning the points, the new GM should fire him on the spot, extension and FSG be damned.

Look up an Assistant Gm or out of work GM from the Massachusetts area.

Dean Lombardi probably.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

I mean, whatever tapes your hockey stick. Can't stay I've given a shit about that kinda stuff since I was a teenager though.

"Doing right by Sid" would've been giving him one last shot at playing on a relevant team and shitcanning the FO and coaches in 2020. But Mario shrugged, and if JR didn't piss his pants and stomp off, he might still be here.

Can't blame Mario. If Sid wanted out, he would be out

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

You can lump Sullivan into this as well, but with him it's people ignoring the active harm he's doing to the roster to act like he's still good. But I think it really applies to all of the core members, they're just no longer as good as fans think they are.

For a huge majority of this season, Letang was arguably our worse blueliner. Even taking into account shitbags like Ruhwedel and the corpse of what was once Dumoulin.

 

[Pancakes]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

Malkin has put up a 56% 5v5 expected goals, and is a PPG. Crosby has put up a 55%, and obviously is over a PPG.

Letang is at a 54% 5v5 xgoals, and has put up a decent offensive season.

It's kinda nuts that they've put up those level of seasons and played in every single game and the Pens aren't going to make the playoffs.

I'm not sure what more you could ask from them at their ages. I guess you could call them overrated if you think that they should on their own be able to drag this team into the playoffs. They're probably not *that* tier of player any more. But they've done more than enough to get the Pens in if the Pens had any depth or goaltending or coaching at all. Trouble is, as we all know, they have no depth, questionable goaltending, and dreadful coaching. (dons Michel Therrien hat) You put the two combination and....*sticks out tongue*

 

[pistolpete11]

I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm really starting to come around to the idea for how overrated Penguins fans think the core is at this point. I feel like I've seen more praise thrown towards all of Crosby, Malkin and Letang this year that doesn't really match up with their performance or production.

This isn't me criticizing the core at all. But I feel like some of the comments I've seen from Penguins fans and media about Crosby, Malkin and Letang seem to be overstating what they're providing at this point. That's not to say any of them are bad, of course they're not, but I feel like they're getting rated a lot more on legacy than statistical performance.

I saw someone call Petry's contract an "awful contract for an aging player", and I'm just "well what does that make Letang?". Because statistically, Letang wasn't any better than Petry this year. Or I see comments about how amazing Malkin has played this year, only to look at his stats and think they look extremely similar to last year's stats.

You can lump Sullivan into this as well, but with him it's people ignoring the active harm he's doing to the roster to act like he's still good. But I think it really applies to all of the core members, they're just no longer as good as fans think they are.

Do people think Malkin wasn't good last year?

Letang did not have a good season this year, that much I agree with. How much is age, getting a retirement contract, his dad passing, his stroke, or the team and coaching around him I guess remains to be seen.

 

[WickedWrister]

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

For a huge majority of this season, Letang was arguably our worse blueliner. Even taking into account shitbags like Ruhwedel and the corpse of what was once Dumoulin.

He would make an excellent #2 or #3 on a playoff team IMO, but he's not cut out to be #1 anymore at his age and after all these injuries/strokes

 

[66-30-33]

Look up an Assistant Gm or out of work GM from the Massachusetts area.

Dean Lombardi probably.

Pens new GM will be Chiarelli.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I mean, whatever tapes your hockey stick. Can't stay I've given a shit about that kinda stuff since I was a teenager though.

"Doing right by Sid" would've been giving him one last shot at playing on a relevant team and shitcanning the FO and coaches in 2020. But Mario shrugged, and if JR didn't piss his pants and stomp off, he might still be here.

Doing right by Sid would be to not let Sid get his way and do the right thing with the roster which Sullivan refused to do.

This team has done right by Sid forever. I hate that notion that this team owes jack shit to any of these wankers. This sense of owing is why Sully is still here.

Pens new GM will be Chiarelli.

Lombardi or Chiarelli honestly would not surprise me.

I mean I am not going to sit here and lie that if it was Ray Shero on second tour, I wouldn't laugh hysterically and be in tears from it. I kind of want it to happen just for the laughs.