Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[SEALBound]

Thank GOD we didn't pay that for Jiricek. Great haul by CBJ there.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

This is why you get 1st rounders tho instead of prospects / Michael Bunting for Jake.

If you have that extra 1st last year or this year you have the ability to move it in this type of trade.

You mean Columbus didn't value Ponomarov and Koivunen as much as a 1st? Weird because that seemed to be the justification for the quantity versus quality trade return.

 

[eXile3]

Minny must be confident that it was the Jackets miss handling of him. A lot of future assets to give up.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Yeah, I wouldn't have given up that much for Jiricek.

Maybe it's a good deal for other teams, but not for where the Penguins are right now, even if they had another first to give.

 

[Turin]

Somehow missed that they also gave up a 2nd round pick, on top of the 1st, prospect and 4th. Yea probably couldn't have matched that without getting stupid.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I think Columbus won that. But we'll see in like 7 years.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Somehow missed that they also gave up a 2nd round pick, on top of the 1st, prospect and 4th. Yea probably couldn't have matched that without getting stupid.

A 3rd too. Seravelli missed that.

 

[Turin]

A 3rd too. Seravelli missed that.

So Hunt, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

???

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Yeah, I wouldn't have given up that much for Jiricek.

Maybe it's a good deal for other teams, but not for where the Penguins are right now, even if they had another first to give.

It's a combination of Guerin's desperation to capitalize on a window and him feeling bad for the CBJ franchise imo.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Pens def shouldn't be giving up 1st round picks let alone ones that are only top 5 protected.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

So Hunt, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

???

Varied years, but pretty much yeah...outside of a 5th to Minnesota.

 

[Turin]

Varied years, but pretty much yeah...outside of a 5th to Minnesota.

Yea f*** that

 

[Turin]

It's a combination of Guerin's desperation to capitalize on a window and him feeling bad for the CBJ franchise imo.

Also Jiricek big

 

[Gurglesons]

So you’re saying this was too much for the Penguins to give up while criticizing Dubas for not getting a 1st to make this kind of move? What?

If we had 2 1sts, it wouldn't be as painful to give up one.

 

[Duffy13]

Please trade Puljujarvi, not playing so Nieto, Acciari and Hayes can skate around like f***ing ghosts is so bloody annoying

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[Gurglesons]

It's a combination of Guerin's desperation to capitalize on a window and him feeling bad for the CBJ franchise imo.

I don't get this? Minnesota is putting Jiricek in the AHL.

How is this a trade to capitalize on a window?

 

[canadianguy77]

Please trade Puljujarvi, not playing so Nieto, Acciari and Hayes can skate around like f***ing ghosts is so bloody annoying

I want to hold onto him in case we get another coach at some point. I really want to see him play a game or two with 87.

 

[Duffy13]

I don't get this? Minnesota is putting Jiricek in the AHL.

How is this a trade to capitalize on a window?

Minnesota is not allowed to have a window anymore.... we smashed it in 1991

I want to hold onto him in case we get another coach at some point. I really want to see him play a game or two with 87.

I do too, but I don't think he wants to sit for 2 more years... plus sid will have retired by then

 

[Malkinstheman]

Looks like there was a bidding war going on. Glad the Pens didn't do it

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Please trade Puljujarvi, not playing so Nieto, Acciari and Hayes can skate around like f***ing ghosts is so bloody annoying

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I know we're done with them, but I think the idea is to play guys like Acciari in the hopes that someone sees something that they decide it's worth making a trade for him.

Is that a longshot or a pipe dream? Maybe. But NHL GMs are weird. Acciari's a right-handed faceoff guy who blocks shots like it's no tomorrow and embraces his role in the bottom six. Old school GMs like that stuff.

 

[Duffy13]

I know we're done with them, but I think the idea is to play guys like Acciari in the hopes that someone sees something that they decide it's worth making a trade for him.

Is that a longshot or a pipe dream? Maybe. But NHL GMs are weird. Acciari's a right-handed faceoff guy who blocks shots like it's no tomorrow and embraces his role in the bottom six. Old school GMs like that stuff.

I will accept your attempt at reason in a personally irrational point of contention

 

[Gurglesons]

I know we're done with them, but I think the idea is to play guys like Acciari in the hopes that someone sees something that they decide it's worth making a trade for him.

Is that a longshot or a pipe dream? Maybe. But NHL GMs are weird. Acciari's a right-handed faceoff guy who blocks shots like it's no tomorrow and embraces his role in the bottom six. Old school GMs like that stuff.

Acciari is 32. He doesn't need to be showcased.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Acciari is 32. He doesn't need to be showcased.

Showcase might be the wrong term for him. Proof that he's not hampered by the slew of injuries he had last year might be better. Because guys like him do fall off a cliff at some point in their 30s and injuries can hasten that decline.

I think their hope is the following:
- Acciari shows he's healthy and durable enough to still be of some value to a contender's bottom six.
- Beauvillier has enough offensive pop to be a bottom six option for a contender lacking some scoring down the lineup.
- Someone needs a 13th forward and is willing to take a flyer on Nieto. Similar to Ruhwedel last year.

I think it's highly unlikely Hayes has any positive value, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him scratched when Glass is healthy.

I think Graves has negative value. And I think they're going to keep playing Grzelcyk in the hopes that someone gets desperate at the deadline, but more than likely he will continue to have negative value and will be stuck here until his contract expires in the spring.

The youth movement we all want will likely come in February/March if the Pens can move some of these players out.

 

[SomeDude]

Acciari is 32. He doesn't need to be showcased.

Pu is the guy the should be showcasing. To prove he is healthy and show that he’s actually a decent player despite his offensive game not living up to his draft spot.

The mental gymnastics some go through to lie to themselves that this isn’t one of the worst run organizations in the league at this point is sad.

 

[Gurglesons]

Showcase might be the wrong term for him. Proof that he's not hampered by the slew of injuries he had last year might be better. Because guys like him do fall off a cliff at some point in their 30s and injuries can hasten that decline.

I think their hope is the following:
- Acciari shows he's healthy and durable enough to still be of some value to a contender's bottom six.
- Beauvillier has enough offensive pop to be a bottom six option for a contender lacking some scoring down the lineup.
- Someone needs a 13th forward and is willing to take a flyer on Nieto. Similar to Ruhwedel last year.

I think it's highly unlikely Hayes has any positive value, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him scratched when Glass is healthy.

I think Graves has negative value. And I think they're going to keep playing Grzelcyk in the hopes that someone gets desperate at the deadline, but more than likely he will continue to have negative value and will be stuck here until his contract expires in the spring.

The youth movement we all want will likely come in February/March if the Pens can move some of these players out.

Pulju probably has more value than Acciari and Hayes and he's a UFA. So why would he re-sign here.