Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Dipsy Doodle]

Agreed. He either finds his game in WBS to the point that his contract can be dumped cleanly or he's bought out in the spring.

Yeah. Injuries always happen too, and maybe that would be an opening for him to at least get back onto on the main roster.

But as it stands he should not be starting, and with 3 healthy goalies he's the obvious odd man out. If decisions made here are actually merit-based.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Not sure I buy Jarry out. Big savings year 1, then not really any until after year 3 (when his deal is up anyway). You could argue burying him is better option.

It’s not uber painful though, so I still get it

 

[Sideline]

Yeah. Injuries always happen too, and maybe that would be an opening for him to at least get back onto on the main roster.

But as it stands he should not be starting, and with 3 healthy goalies he's the obvious odd man out. If decisions made here are actually merit-based.

For all his faults Sullivan hasn't been too loyal to Jarry. He let Ned win the net last year and has give Blomquist half the starts so far this year.

Not sure I buy Jarry out. Big savings year 1, then not really any until after year 3 (when his deal is up anyway). You could argue burying him is better option.

It’s not uber painful though, so I still get it

I didn't actually look at the buyout math. Burying or buying out is fine with me if the money makes more sense one way than the other. Just have to be ok moving away from him as the default starter.

 

[Ignatius]

Trade Jarry for 7th

IDGAF

 

[PensFutures]

Unless theres a trade to be made somewhere, just ride with Blom for the near future. If he looks capable and Ned returns to form when hes back, waive Jarry and send him to WBS.

Im not against something like Jarry+ Puus for Gerogiev if its there, but id rather not use too big of a sweetener to move him.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

If he was not ready for the NHL, sure. If we was NOT one of the 12 best forwards on this team, OK. Neither of those are true.

Young forwards who are physically mature for the NHL should be in the NHL when they are good enough. AND, it is not like he did not make the team out of training camp. Man, Sullivan was pretty quick to break up that third line. That in and of itself is a big joke.

I mean, if we are going to start sitting him out for weeks, then yeah. Send him down. But WHY are we not playing him? WHO is so invaluable and irreplaceable that you have to send him down?

Yeah, I am looking at you Anthony Beauvillier. You are literally destroying the first line. So, naturally I expect a three-year contract extension any day now.

Mike Sullivan hockey...deal with it.

Beauvillier seriously needs to be in the press box or shipped out. This team may be bad, especially with Sullivan as coach, but they'd at least be watchable without "Tito" strangling the first line.

 

[Tender Rip]

Beauvillier seriously needs to be in the press box or shipped out. This team may be bad, especially with Sullivan as coach, but they'd at least be watchable without "Tito" strangling the first line.

Beau killed us enough as a fishy that I was and am prepared to give some line, but obviously that would be different and easier further down the lineup.

Moreover DOC (first in line) deserves a shot at more. Does much more to compliment either Sid or Geno also in terms of physical presence/work rate.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Beauvillier seriously needs to be in the press box or shipped out. This team may be bad, especially with Sullivan as coach, but they'd at least be watchable without "Tito" strangling the first line.

Why not try koivunen on LW with line 1? Run DOC with Sid, move Rust down to the 2nd line and Bunting to the third.

 

[eXile3]

Rakell and Graves are the only players with a positive EV 5on5 differential.

We are awful defensively. And yes I know that was obvious from last nights game alone.

 

[McGroarty2]

Any guesses on WBS lines with McGroarty in?

 

[Andy99]

Hopefully he gets conditioned quickly and trades places in Wilkes with Jarry lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846916633136099340

 

[chrisp200]

Why not try koivunen on LW with line 1? Run DOC with Sid, move Rust down to the 2nd line and Bunting to the third.

Koivunen is not close to NHL ready.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Koivunen is not close to NHL ready.

How do you know that?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Not sure I buy Jarry out. Big savings year 1, then not really any until after year 3 (when his deal is up anyway). You could argue burying him is better option.

It’s not uber painful though, so I still get it

Yea I see first year cap savings then the 5 million year 2.

Id like to hope he can get his confidence back.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

If you can't move him except with sweetener, you don't need to do anything with Jarry this year except demote him and hope he can find his game in WBS.

That's what his play has earned.

With Blomquist outplaying Jarry and signed through the end of next season, you're still saving a couple hundred grand on the cap by demoting Jarry and just running Ned/Blom and getting better goaltending. It's not ideal at all, but who cares. It's not like we're spending $12m on the position.

 

[chrisp200]

How do you know that?

By watching how he's done in North America thus far. He has skill but he is unable to use the skill at a North American pace. There would have to be many many injuries this year for him to get the call up. Broz is closer to the NHL than Koivunen and I still think Broz has a ways to go.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I didn't actually look at the buyout math. Burying or buying out is fine with me if the money makes more sense one way than the other. Just have to be ok moving away from him as the default starter.

Yea I see first year cap savings then the 5 million year 2.

Id like to hope he can get his confidence back.

Yeah it wasn’t necessarily directed at you @Sideline just was pointing out the structure. Overall still not the worst buyout especially if they decide to rebuild. Could use the 3.6M to take on a deal for a pick.

But if you have no planned use for the year 1 cap savings, then I’m not sure I see the point vs burying him.

Then again, might just be good for the psyche of the team to buy him out and get him out of the org completely.

 

[Gurglesons]

Beau’s been decent, just miscast too high up the lineup. I’d maybe flip he and Glass, who’s played well.

Someone will have to come out when Lizotte gets healthy.

Beauvillier is everything wrong with Sullivan hockey. He's undersized, but works hard so he's Sully's crush.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Hopefully he gets conditioned quickly and trades places in Wilkes with Jarry lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846916633136099340

I didn't see this before I was thinking about the goalie situation, surprised he's healthy this quickly. Sucks this only gives them to the end of October to figure out the goalie situation.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Beauvillier is everything wrong with Sullivan hockey. He's undersized, but works hard so he's Sully's crush.

He should be a L4 guy but I like his ability to carry the puck through the NZ. Something this team lacks and has lacked up front

 

[Gurglesons]

He should be a L4 guy but I like his ability to carry the puck through the NZ. Something this team lacks and has lacked up front

Absolutely hate the idea of putting him on L4. He’s exactly the type of Archibald shit bird we’d put their historically.

I want size or grit like we have on L4 right now.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Absolutely hate the idea of putting him on L4. He’s exactly the type of Archibald shit bird we’d put their historically.

I want size or grit like we have on L4 right now.

There*

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Absolutely hate the idea of putting him on L4. He’s exactly the type of Archibald shit bird we’d put their historically.

I want size or grit like we have on L4 right now.

That’s fair, just saying while I like him he’s too high up the lineup.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Absolutely hate the idea of putting him on L4. He’s exactly the type of Archibald shit bird we’d put their historically.

I want size or grit like we have on L4 right now.

Not ideal, but better L4 than L1.

DOC to 1LW, Lizotte to 3LW, and Beau to press box works for me.

 

[SEALBound]

Hopefully he gets conditioned quickly and trades places in Wilkes with Jarry lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846916633136099340

Jarry sweating bullets now I'm sure.

Honestly...waiving Jarry to see if there are takers isn't the worst option. Go the AHL, play well, come back. I wouldn't hate it if he got hot in the AHL and propelled WBS to a championship. About time they had some success.

By watching how he's done in North America thus far. He has skill but he is unable to use the skill at a North American pace. There would have to be many many injuries this year for him to get the call up. Broz is closer to the NHL than Koivunen and I still think Broz has a ways to go.

I see 2 games played and 3 assists. Not saying he's NHL ready but to suggest he's struggling in NA might be a bit of a reach at the moment.